RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[Shad_]

4 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

I think you're not town.

 

I don't actually remember any reason for your initial convictions on Sooh?  I feel like her being lock wolf has been the premise for a lot of your subsequent spec, but it's not clear to me how you got there.

 

(Hint: I'm not ready to lock clear her yet but I don't think Sooh's a wolf.)

[Krakalakachkn]

5 hours ago, Leyrann said:

I realize I have been misunderstanding what EP was saying earlier, and he was making a mistake as well, which I guess double removes the reason for my vote, so I'm moving it back to Vote: Kat because I'm still happy with that one. As I said in my first post of the day, that redirect stinks. And yes we can WIFOM it. Everything can be WIFOMed.

 

Liking EP today, good to see Ed show up, unsure about Sooh, Hallia. I guess also liking AJ but need to pay more attention to him.

 

Vote Ley

 

Why do you need to pay more attention to AJ?  What does that mean to you?

[Andrej]

1 hour ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

for the record, if Sooh is not mafia she is our defeated pacifist SK, her vote restriction fits a "pacifist" logic. Either way Sooh doesn't flip town.

 

Walk me through this one.

[Shad_]

not gonna lie I think a bunch of 3ps is more likely than a scum team at this point

[Andrej]

Just now, Shad_ said:

not gonna lie I think a bunch of 3ps is more likely than a scum team at this point

 

I’m coming around to the idea.

[Krakalakachkn]

3ps meaning multiple teams of 3 players?

[Krakalakachkn]

I also have no idea what buff means

[Shad_]

1 minute ago, Krakalakachkn said:

3ps meaning multiple teams of 3 players?

 

I was thinking more along the lines of individuals with solo wincons. 

[Krakalakachkn]

gotcha, instead of a unified mafia front.

[Krakalakachkn]

My lingo is not up to spec

[Andrej]

2 minutes ago, Krakalakachkn said:

I also have no idea what buff means

 

EP claimed his ability was that his power can’t be manipulated (blocked/redirected etc) and I assume whoever he targets at Night is covered by it. Pretty pro-town imo if used on the correct players.

[Shad_]

We're reaching a point where if all claims are true and there is a scum team they were pretty much screwed at rand.  We've got essentially two ICs, Duk is vouching EP's claim, Sooh's claim doesn't fit with a scum team that would need to be pretty OP, Amega is a really irrational target for scum to redirect Kat's kill onto.

 

I'm guessing there's someone with a Psychiatrist type day action that can convert 3P to town and they targeted correctly yesterday and can vouch this when needed?

 

I hate mech spec tbh

[Gabriel Kross]

21 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Walk me through this one.

Remind me in about an hour. I need to figure out my food situation

18 minutes ago, Krakalakachkn said:

3ps meaning multiple teams of 3 players?

I was gonna answer this but it was answered in a later post so w/e

14 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

EP claimed his ability was that his power can’t be manipulated (blocked/redirected etc) and I assume whoever he targets at Night is covered by it. Pretty pro-town imo if used on the correct players.

Essentially this but the mechanics of it are a bit more powerful.

[Andrej]

EpicMafia has an interesting description of what a Pacifist is.

[Andrej]

@bgrishinko

 

we need to have a chat my dude

[Duk3star]

20 hours ago, bgrishinko said:

Ugh... I'm going to have to go through this again... No Lynch exists for a reason. If you can't in good conscience find a suitable lynch candidate it's in the best interest to not lynch in my opinion. 

 

If you automatically assumes that's scummy, fine. Not much I can do about that. But I would like an explanation of Why it sets off your scumdar. What advantage would it bring me as mafia? 

 

Lynches give information and are the only way most town can contribute and kill mafia. By sleeping you just push the decision off onto another night, you also give mafia more power to shape the narrative. No Lynching is always a bad idea unless you are potentially in MYLO situations because you are giving town less chances to kill mafia. 

[Andrej]

Pretty sure BG can only vote for No Lynch.

 

That combined with the announcement of a Pacifist is too big of a coincidence imo.

[Andrej]

Plus everyone else is either dead or has voted someone, so he’s literally the only one it could be.

[Duk3star]

2 hours ago, bgrishinko said:

 Fits in with the hints and what EP assumed is Joat. . Also explains why nothing happened like he expected. Do you live if Vig hits you or do you absorb a one time use of that too? I could see a scenario in which a Doc protects you, Vig shoots you and now you have both of those as well. 

 

I do not have a limitation on abilities I can absord so theoretically everybody could target me with their actions and I could confirm everybody. The only problem is I don't know if there is a strongarm mechanic. Oh man, a mass claim would have broke this game lol. Dice doesn't res Ed but me after we force everybody to target me with their night actions. I become the ultimate mech cop. 

[Andrej]

Or a super OP Indy lol

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

Plus everyone else is either dead or has voted someone, so he’s literally the only one it could be.

 

Actually Kat didn’t vote but she also claimed Bruce Banner and I’m pretty sure she’s got something to do with Amega dying, so doesn’t seem very Pacifist-y imo.

[Gabriel Kross]

42 minutes ago, Andrej said:

EpicMafia has an interesting description of what a Pacifist is.

 

23 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Plus everyone else is either dead or has voted someone, so he’s literally the only one it could be.

Are you suggesting BG might be Skurge?

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

 

Are you suggesting BG might be Skurge?

however, what if all the vote restricts are 3rd party sks? Nyn the aggressive SK with multi-vote, Sooh the neutral SK can only vote in first 24h, and BG the passive can only vote no lynch?

[Gabriel Kross]

29 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Plus everyone else is either dead or has voted someone, so he’s literally the only one it could be.

I think we definately need to hear from BG, and then maybe test the theory.

[bgrishinko]

I'm not at liberty to say much right now considering the above speculation. Also I'm at dinner with the family, but I think Kat would be a decent vote today and I can help clear up the Sooh confusion tonight as I mentioned before. 

 

Sorry won't be too active this evening.