[Game Thread] Aspiring Tennis Enthusiasts, GRATS MAFIA

[BFG]

 

 

I still think the D1 pairings contained both scum in a matchup.

 

 

If AJ/BFG scum team, then same thing as D1 - they pit themselves against each other to ensure 1 makes it to Finals. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

If Lenlo/LZM, they would have subbed SK back in, not BFG. Makes no sense. It would also mean one of AJ/Aquilla is the symp, and I see no evidence of hinting in a way that scum would have known that.

 

If SK/Aquilla, the matchup for D2 makes sense, but only in that it is very risky leaving SK out and bring BFG back. Aquilla could easily have lost to Lenlo, and leaving the game on that 1 matchup is very risky. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

 

 

@everybody

 

please tear this theory apart

I disagree. I think the scum team is Lenlo/Randquilla and they didn't know who the symp was. Lenlo is very good at talking himself out of situations and LZM is good at talking himself into them, Rand/SK were absent. Sooh/Ben excepted it was the lineup that gave the least away.

 

With this matchup they can get 2 through to the second day without drawing attention to one by subbing them back in

I appreciate the vote of confidence BFG, but your over estimating me here.

I wasn't in the 'survivor' game but I've heard about it often enough :P

 

I literally just saw you talk your way out of a lynch in SS, and you only lost/got lynched because you were poe'd

[Andrej]

Cause it worked best to give them an angle to attack from.

 

The rezz needs to be considered in conjunction with the NKs. D2 was mostly a waiting period because they knew D3 was already guaranteed.

 

Like - look at their play D2 compared to mine and BFG. In a normal setting this wouldn’t even be a discussion.

[Verbal32]

If it was theoretically me and Lenlo (which I explained on d2 why I didn't think it would've been a good idea for the goons to pair) then why would we sub you in over the dead weight SK (no offense meant at all)

 

I think it comes down to this:  do we think scum paired themselves up on D1 or D2?  The answer to that prob solves this game.

[Andrej]

There’s a reason they were both lackadaisical D2, as much as they wanna blame it all on me for purposefully drawing attention to myself as the scum that I am. Lenlo didn’t fight his Lynch nor did he try to push Aquilla’s. They knew they had another phase to go.

[Aquilla]

Cause it worked best to give them an angle to attack from.

 

The rezz needs to be considered in conjunction with the NKs. D2 was mostly a waiting period because they knew D3 was already guaranteed.

 

Like - look at their play D2 compared to mine and BFG. In a normal setting this wouldn’t even be a discussion.

 

said angle could've worked by subbing in SK against you too... In fact it probably would've worked better

[Andrej]

Aquilla mused about potential mechanical scenarios but again never really fought to keep himself alive or to eliminate Lenlo.

 

Connect the dots here.

[Andrej]

 

Cause it worked best to give them an angle to attack from.

 

The rezz needs to be considered in conjunction with the NKs. D2 was mostly a waiting period because they knew D3 was already guaranteed.

 

Like - look at their play D2 compared to mine and BFG. In a normal setting this wouldn’t even be a discussion.

said angle could've worked by subbing in SK against you too... In fact it probably would've worked better

There was no pre established idea that I was scum with SK, so no.

[Aquilla]

There’s a reason they were both lackadaisical D2, as much as they wanna blame it all on me for purposefully drawing attention to myself as the scum that I am. Lenlo didn’t fight his Lynch nor did he try to push Aquilla’s. They knew they had another phase to go.

 

lol please, you only pushed on me and Lenlo as well, so you could argue that you came from the same perspective.

[Verbal32]

Cause it worked best to give them an angle to attack from.

 

The rezz needs to be considered in conjunction with the NKs. D2 was mostly a waiting period because they knew D3 was already guaranteed.

 

Like - look at their play D2 compared to mine and BFG. In a normal setting this wouldn’t even be a discussion.

 

Would it not have been a better "look" to discredit you by pairing you with SK D2, though?  They could use the angle of scum!AJ not wanting to bring an active player (also somewhat consensus town read) to go against and giving himself and easy "in" to the finals....?

[Aquilla]

Aquilla mused about potential mechanical scenarios but again never really fought to keep himself alive or to eliminate Lenlo.

 

Connect the dots here.

 

I said multiple times that Lenlo was always a goon from my perspective at the time... 

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

I still think the D1 pairings contained both scum in a matchup.

 

 

If AJ/BFG scum team, then same thing as D1 - they pit themselves against each other to ensure 1 makes it to Finals. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

If Lenlo/LZM, they would have subbed SK back in, not BFG. Makes no sense. It would also mean one of AJ/Aquilla is the symp, and I see no evidence of hinting in a way that scum would have known that.

 

If SK/Aquilla, the matchup for D2 makes sense, but only in that it is very risky leaving SK out and bring BFG back. Aquilla could easily have lost to Lenlo, and leaving the game on that 1 matchup is very risky. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

 

 

@everybody

 

please tear this theory apart

I disagree. I think the scum team is Lenlo/Randquilla and they didn't know who the symp was. Lenlo is very good at talking himself out of situations and LZM is good at talking himself into them, Rand/SK were absent. Sooh/Ben excepted it was the lineup that gave the least away.

 

With this matchup they can get 2 through to the second day without drawing attention to one by subbing them back in

so then why'd you get subbed in?

Because you didn't know who the symp was I've literally said this at least twice already

But then why sub in the player everybody not named Verbal thought was town? I don't get it....

Actually a number of people thought I was scum or possible scum or mixed

 

And it makes no difference. Even if I was being town read, so was AJ and we can't both advance. Subbing me back in ensured more wifom and made it harder for me to gain trust

 

It's also possible they thought I was hinting to Lenlo N0 lol

[Aquilla]

 

 

Cause it worked best to give them an angle to attack from.

 

The rezz needs to be considered in conjunction with the NKs. D2 was mostly a waiting period because they knew D3 was already guaranteed.

 

Like - look at their play D2 compared to mine and BFG. In a normal setting this wouldn’t even be a discussion.

said angle could've worked by subbing in SK against you too... In fact it probably would've worked better

There was no pre established idea that I was scum with SK, so no.

 

 

it would've worked the same way in the sense that you were paired against LHF.

[BFG]

Verb, what are your reads? Why are you so focused on mechanics which is always just wifom

[Aquilla]

 

 

 

 

 

I still think the D1 pairings contained both scum in a matchup.

 

 

If AJ/BFG scum team, then same thing as D1 - they pit themselves against each other to ensure 1 makes it to Finals. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

If Lenlo/LZM, they would have subbed SK back in, not BFG. Makes no sense. It would also mean one of AJ/Aquilla is the symp, and I see no evidence of hinting in a way that scum would have known that.

 

If SK/Aquilla, the matchup for D2 makes sense, but only in that it is very risky leaving SK out and bring BFG back. Aquilla could easily have lost to Lenlo, and leaving the game on that 1 matchup is very risky. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

 

 

@everybody

 

please tear this theory apart

I disagree. I think the scum team is Lenlo/Randquilla and they didn't know who the symp was. Lenlo is very good at talking himself out of situations and LZM is good at talking himself into them, Rand/SK were absent. Sooh/Ben excepted it was the lineup that gave the least away.

 

With this matchup they can get 2 through to the second day without drawing attention to one by subbing them back in

so then why'd you get subbed in?

Because you didn't know who the symp was I've literally said this at least twice already

But then why sub in the player everybody not named Verbal thought was town? I don't get it....

Actually a number of people thought I was scum or possible scum or mixed

 

And it makes no difference. Even if I was being town read, so was AJ and we can't both advance. Subbing me back in ensured more wifom and made it harder for me to gain trust

 

It's also possible they thought I was hinting to Lenlo N0 lol

 

 

this is one possibility actually, Lenlo and SK/Ben could be the goons and subbed you in because they thought you were the symp, but then thought I was the symp for some reason so their pushing on AJ who's actually the symp.

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

 

 

I still think the D1 pairings contained both scum in a matchup.

 

 

If AJ/BFG scum team, then same thing as D1 - they pit themselves against each other to ensure 1 makes it to Finals. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

If Lenlo/LZM, they would have subbed SK back in, not BFG. Makes no sense. It would also mean one of AJ/Aquilla is the symp, and I see no evidence of hinting in a way that scum would have known that.

 

If SK/Aquilla, the matchup for D2 makes sense, but only in that it is very risky leaving SK out and bring BFG back. Aquilla could easily have lost to Lenlo, and leaving the game on that 1 matchup is very risky. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

 

 

@everybody

 

please tear this theory apart

I disagree. I think the scum team is Lenlo/Randquilla and they didn't know who the symp was. Lenlo is very good at talking himself out of situations and LZM is good at talking himself into them, Rand/SK were absent. Sooh/Ben excepted it was the lineup that gave the least away.

 

With this matchup they can get 2 through to the second day without drawing attention to one by subbing them back in

so then why'd you get subbed in?

Because you didn't know who the symp was I've literally said this at least twice already

But then why sub in the player everybody not named Verbal thought was town? I don't get it....

Actually a number of people thought I was scum or possible scum or mixed

 

And it makes no difference. Even if I was being town read, so was AJ and we can't both advance. Subbing me back in ensured more wifom and made it harder for me to gain trust

 

It's also possible they thought I was hinting to Lenlo N0 lol

 

 

Can you show me what makes you say this?

[BFG]

I don't see a goon not being voted back in

[Gentled Ben]

 

AJ opened D2 with WIFOM! Sooh suggested it, Nyn and I discussed it, and then he killed all three of us and immediately picked it up and started running with it, trying to defuse and discredit it while relying upon it for victory. It likely would have worked had I not been subbed back in and begun challenging him on it. It still might work. He has played a brilliant game, and so have you. Props to you, but I will not concede.

 

There was no reason to expand the read. What expansion do you need? Different levels of scumminess? Your name in brighter shades of red? You have been my scum read since D1, and you were a solid lynch against AJ both days, so why bother further with you, when it was AJ who was carrying the baton for the scum team? He's the horse you guys have placed your bets on, so he's the one to stop.

 

Yuck, I hate when people say this.  This is a scummy argument, dude.

 

 

 

 

It happens to some people. Others don sub out. Depends on the person but it'd happened enough to get its own acronym

Meh, I think it is more likely that one or two "high profile" players said it and it immediately went into canon.

 

Why? I am the one who has most strongly and openly opposed him. That is true whether I'm town or scum. I don't see how it's AI.

 

I still think the D1 pairings contained both scum in a matchup.

 

 

If AJ/BFG scum team, then same thing as D1 - they pit themselves against each other to ensure 1 makes it to Finals.  Symp largely irrelevant.

 

If Lenlo/LZM, they would have subbed SK back in, not BFG.  Makes no sense.  It would also mean one of AJ/Aquilla is the symp, and I see no evidence of hinting in a way that scum would have known that.

 

If SK/Aquilla, the matchup for D2 makes sense, but only in that it is very risky leaving SK out and bring BFG back.  Aquilla could easily have lost to Lenlo, and leaving the game on that 1 matchup is very risky.  Symp largely irrelevant.

 

 

 

@everybody

 

please tear this theory apart

 

I can't. I agree with it.

 

 

 

 

I still think the D1 pairings contained both scum in a matchup.

 

 

If AJ/BFG scum team, then same thing as D1 - they pit themselves against each other to ensure 1 makes it to Finals. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

If Lenlo/LZM, they would have subbed SK back in, not BFG. Makes no sense. It would also mean one of AJ/Aquilla is the symp, and I see no evidence of hinting in a way that scum would have known that.

 

If SK/Aquilla, the matchup for D2 makes sense, but only in that it is very risky leaving SK out and bring BFG back. Aquilla could easily have lost to Lenlo, and leaving the game on that 1 matchup is very risky. Symp largely irrelevant.

 

 

 

@everybody

 

please tear this theory apart

I disagree. I think the scum team is Lenlo/Randquilla and they didn't know who the symp was. Lenlo is very good at talking himself out of situations and LZM is good at talking himself into them, Rand/SK were absent. Sooh/Ben excepted it was the lineup that gave the least away.

 

With this matchup they can get 2 through to the second day without drawing attention to one by subbing them back in

so then why'd you get subbed in?

Because you didn't know who the symp was I've literally said this at least twice already

 

 

But then why sub in the player everybody not named Verbal thought was town?  I don't get it....

 

I had her as scum, too.

[Gentled Ben]

I don't see a goon not being voted back in

Yeah, neither does anybody but AJ.

[Verbal32]

this is one possibility actually, Lenlo and SK/Ben could be the goons and subbed you in because they thought you were the symp, but then thought I was the symp for some reason so their pushing on AJ who's actually the symp.

Whoa.  That doesn't make sense to me - they are currently pushing AJ and would have unvoted by now to "appear to reconsider new information" or some such......not keep their votes on like this.

[BFG]

 

 

 

Ben, Sooh, AJ, LZM and Lenlo are all dead to me </3

 

I dont say when I'm a wolf BFG! :P

Shame bout the spider though

Ftfy :p

D: You got me! How are you so good at this game?!

@Verb

[Aquilla]

 

this is one possibility actually, Lenlo and SK/Ben could be the goons and subbed you in because they thought you were the symp, but then thought I was the symp for some reason so their pushing on AJ who's actually the symp.

Whoa.  That doesn't make sense to me - they are currently pushing AJ and would have unvoted by now to "appear to reconsider new information" or some such......not keep their votes on like this.

 

 

it's a little out there, but I think it's possible, not likely but possible. The more likely scenario is AJ/BFG both goons. I don't see another option tbh.

[Lenlo]

 

this is one possibility actually, Lenlo and SK/Ben could be the goons and subbed you in because they thought you were the symp, but then thought I was the symp for some reason so their pushing on AJ who's actually the symp.

Whoa.  That doesn't make sense to me - they are currently pushing AJ and would have unvoted by now to "appear to reconsider new information" or some such......not keep their votes on like this.

 

Maybe hes saying we think AJ isnt the symp but he actually is? I dont know. Its weird dude.

[Verbal32]

I don't see a goon not being voted back in

 

A joke?

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

 

Ben, Sooh, AJ, LZM and Lenlo are all dead to me </3

I dont say when I'm a wolf BFG! :P

Shame bout the spider though

Ftfy :p

D: You got me! How are you so good at this game?!

@Verb

 

 

Ok, I can accept that.

[Aquilla]

 

 

this is one possibility actually, Lenlo and SK/Ben could be the goons and subbed you in because they thought you were the symp, but then thought I was the symp for some reason so their pushing on AJ who's actually the symp.

Whoa.  That doesn't make sense to me - they are currently pushing AJ and would have unvoted by now to "appear to reconsider new information" or some such......not keep their votes on like this.

 

Maybe hes saying we think AJ isnt the symp but he actually is? I dont know. Its weird dude.

 

 

exact opposite