Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[MrsClov]

One thing me and Clov do agree on is that Sooh is the most obvious villager in the game.

 

Well, besides Linz.

You were so about to get the envy face from skype.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ted claimed Sailor Venus. That's inherently null - we know mafia have fake claims, so character claims mean literally nothing this game.

Sooh reacts in a way that expresses doubt/concern? Why? Well, probably because she's Sailor Venus. That was my initial take, and I was even more confident when Sooh essentially told me "Think about it!" when I asked her why she was bringing it up.

 

Okay, that means Ted lied. So what? Yeah, it's not pro-town, but is it scummy when we know mafia have safe claims? He's not going to forego a legitimate safe claim to make a legitimate attempt at character claiming. Ted might be town. He might be mafia. But his post meant nothing, and my expectation is that Sooh would have known that.

 

So I ask her WHY she's questioning it. Like, what's the point? She says "think about it"...which implies she believes it's significant. If she's mafia and has Sailor Venus as a fake claim, nobody else is going to know Ted is lying so bringing it up does nothing. If she's mafia and doesn't have it as a fake claim, she's not going to know whether he's telling the truth. If she's Sailor Venus (a character that almost certainly would be town), she's going to have a genuine reaction.

 

 

TL;DR - I think her reaction to his claim, though pointless in terms of HER ability to solve the game, is incredibly genuinely. And given it's predicated on her being town, that means she almost certainly is.

I know next to nothing about Sailor Moon, but there is another specific reason why I dislike this claim. I read a little bit about Sailor Moon yesterday after the claim happened, and found out that my character is sort of a main character? So I was thinking PR hunting.

So youre a PR. Noted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ted claimed Sailor Venus. That's inherently null - we know mafia have fake claims, so character claims mean literally nothing this game.

Sooh reacts in a way that expresses doubt/concern? Why? Well, probably because she's Sailor Venus. That was my initial take, and I was even more confident when Sooh essentially told me "Think about it!" when I asked her why she was bringing it up.

 

Okay, that means Ted lied. So what? Yeah, it's not pro-town, but is it scummy when we know mafia have safe claims? He's not going to forego a legitimate safe claim to make a legitimate attempt at character claiming. Ted might be town. He might be mafia. But his post meant nothing, and my expectation is that Sooh would have known that.

 

So I ask her WHY she's questioning it. Like, what's the point? She says "think about it"...which implies she believes it's significant. If she's mafia and has Sailor Venus as a fake claim, nobody else is going to know Ted is lying so bringing it up does nothing. If she's mafia and doesn't have it as a fake claim, she's not going to know whether he's telling the truth. If she's Sailor Venus (a character that almost certainly would be town), she's going to have a genuine reaction.

 

 

TL;DR - I think her reaction to his claim, though pointless in terms of HER ability to solve the game, is incredibly genuinely. And given it's predicated on her being town, that means she almost certainly is.

I know next to nothing about Sailor Moon, but there is another specific reason why I dislike this claim. I read a little bit about Sailor Moon yesterday after the claim happened, and found out that my character is sort of a main character? So I was thinking PR hunting.

So youre a PR. Noted.

 

totally

 

 

 

 

 

These 2 posts are pinging me, its prolly just some more lolzander but...FML

 

 

Pinging you how, exactly?

 

 

Like if Derf is a Villager and thinks you may be sh shouldnt be drawing PR heat yours should read more....snarky or upset i guess,

 

Much less bothered by yours

[MrsClov]

I just want you all to know that I really do not want to reread this thread. I'm going to, I think. I just really do not want to. 

[Cory Caboose]

I just want you all to know that I really do not want to reread this thread. I'm going to, I think. I just really do not want to. 

 

Join the dark side Linz

 

Take my hand and walk through the valley of the shadow

[Cory Caboose]

Most people itt are pretty townie but there's Def a gap opening between the best and the rest imo. It feels safe atm to give z, sooh, eldrick, and spade an early pass but I'm not yet there with bop or even cordyx and definitely not with anyone else. I always worry that these early reads are just a function of volume.

 

Man I doo really like a lot of Darthe's posts. #494 #431 #389 too. Hope I find a smoking gun soon (maybe not the best idiom for a mafia game but you get it :P)

[MrsClov]

 

I just want you all to know that I really do not want to reread this thread. I'm going to, I think. I just really do not want to. 

 

Join the dark side Linz

 

Take my hand and walk through the valley of the shadow

 

Why do I feel like this is about to be 1970's Willy Wonka with a scary psychedelic tunnel? 

[Ironeyes]

 

Most people itt are pretty townie but there's Def a gap opening between the best and the rest imo. It feels safe atm to give z, sooh, eldrick, and spade an early pass but I'm not yet there with bop or even cordyx and definitely not with anyone else. I always worry that these early reads are just a function of volume.

 

Man I doo really like a lot of Darthe's posts. #494 #431 #389 too. Hope I find a smoking gun soon (maybe not the best idiom for a mafia game but you get it :P)

 

Don't know whose gun you expect to be smoking when nobody's been shot

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

I just want you all to know that I really do not want to reread this thread. I'm going to, I think. I just really do not want to. 

 

Join the dark side Linz

 

Take my hand and walk through the valley of the shadow

 

Why do I feel like this is about to be 1970's Willy Wonka with a scary psychedelic tunnel? 

 

 

There's no earthly way of knowing

 

Which direction we are going

 

There's no knowing where we're rowing

 

Or which way the river's flowing

 

Is it raining, is it snowing

 

Is a hurricane a-blowing

 

Not a speck of light is showing

 

So the danger must be growing

 

Are the fires of Hell a-glowing

 

Is the grisly reaper mowing

 

Yes, the danger must be growing

 

For the rowers keep on rowing

 

And they're certainly not showing

 

Any signs that they are slowing

[Spadeszee]

 

 

I just want you all to know that I really do not want to reread this thread. I'm going to, I think. I just really do not want to. 

 

Join the dark side Linz

 

Take my hand and walk through the valley of the shadow

 

Why do I feel like this is about to be 1970's Willy Wonka with a scary psychedelic tunnel? 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

So I perused a bit of scruffington's games on MU( a light game and a champs game) And the first few pages of a game on his homesite(battlestar galactica). From what I can tell random day 1 voting isnt a thing but scruffington was freely throwing his vote around as a way to apply pressure but with reason. He also doesnt list the reason in the same post he votes always. He'll either already be sussing the person(in bsg he was critical of someone then later voted) or he quoted a post of someone with a vote and later explained he didn't like the post

 

In this scenario youre describing above in Bold I guessing he was Town?

 

Do you have an issue with this?

 

 What would I have an issue with?

 

and yes, he was town

 

 

The way he approached his game play/style.

[Spadeszee]

 

 

 

 

 

So I perused a bit of scruffington's games on MU( a light game and a champs game) And the first few pages of a game on his homesite(battlestar galactica). From what I can tell random day 1 voting isnt a thing but scruffington was freely throwing his vote around as a way to apply pressure but with reason. He also doesnt list the reason in the same post he votes always. He'll either already be sussing the person(in bsg he was critical of someone then later voted) or he quoted a post of someone with a vote and later explained he didn't like the post

 

In this scenario youre describing above in Bold I guessing he was Town?

 

Do you have an issue with this?

 

 What would I have an issue with?

 

and yes, he was town

 

 

The way he approached his game play/style.

 

 

I'm consistently confused by you Zander xD

 

The point isn't to like his play style but to recognize that this is exactly how he acted in his previous village game. Doesn't it clear him? Ehhh. Does it make him look a bit better? Mmmm-ish.

 

[Cory Caboose]

taking a break

[Ironeyes]

Deadline is 11:30 tomorrow correct?

[Cory Caboose]

yup EST

[Ironeyes]

Which is... 9:30 mountain time. Sweet. 

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Eldrick(1): Scruffington

Scruffington(4): Darthe, Linz, Marsh, Eldrick

Aquilla(2): Sooh, Bop

 

 

A deadline is now set for Friday, July 14th at 11:30pm EST.  With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

I am working on a replacement for Aquilla.  Do not discuss subs.

[Cuth]

sup

[Ironeyes]

sup

Sup! Welcome back. Sorry for all the spam you have to read through. 

[Hallia]

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT:

 

Fleeing Coward is replacing Aquilla

Fredwood is replacing Ted Bundy

 

Do not discuss subs

[Cuth]

 

sup

Sup! Welcome back. Sorry for all the spam you have to read through. 

 

hey

 

no problem

[Fleeing Coward]

Fredwood clearly a scummy sub. Should lynch him while we can.

[Zander?]

 

 

How the heck does that fail to make sense to you? I didn't have anything good to read her on, but when you laid out the explanation for why she reacted to Ted's claim the way she did, it made sense to me and made me think she must be town. So I moved her up the list. 

 

Where is the inconsistency in that? 

 

 

It's not that you moved her up.  That's to be expected.  It's your placement I have an issue with.

 

I get not having her beneath yourself.  I get not having her beneath the person that is moderator-confirmed town.  But if you feel THAT strongly about it, I don't get having another townread over her (unless you have something incredibly substantial for them that I've missed?), and I don't get putting her where you did in terms of categories.

 

I don't see much of a difference between this: 

 

Spadebop 

Sooh

Cordyx

 

and this: 

 

Spadebop

Sooh

Cordyx

 

since the order is what matters. And the reason she's below Spadebop is because I'm more confident in my read on Spades, which was made under my own power and by my own observation, than in my read on Sooh, which was made with your influence. Even though I'm town reading you I can't rule out the possibility that I'm wrong and you're manipulating me. 

 

 

I still wanna know what changed in that like 30-45 mins from Sooh that changed your read.   Please show the quotes and explain?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, hopefully both Scruffington, Aquilla and Ted (and Cuth) will show up and give us some more content soon. 

 

I'll repeat: You are not locked to your reads. If you think somebody has done a towny thing, even if it's just one small thing, it's better for you to say it so we have something to read you by. Likewise if you think somebody has done a scummy thing. 

 

Pretty please?

 

 

If those name which would be most likely Scum and why?

 

 

 

Assuming you're asking me which one of the low posters are more likely scum?

 

I'm still not convinced by Ted, but that might be a me-thing. Trying to give him space. Same with Scruff. I got nothing on Aquilla, which is slightly worrisome. Cuth is *shrug*.

 

So yeah. I don't really know how to answer this question, Z. 

 

 

 

With an answer maybe?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Way too lazy to update my notes, soo just going to wing it. Going in order of player list. 

 

Cory/Clov- Null, but could easily go slight town on. Cory's giving off an excitement to play that I tend to associate with his town games. I said before I don't think Scum!Clov openly gives Eldrick a town read. I also don't know that he'd go through the trouble of explaining his thoughts regarding Ted/Sooh character claim ordeal. Still need to see more before I can feel really comfy putting them as town though. 

 

TBF I know that I'm expected to always be right about Eldrick, so if I were scum and he was town, I'd probably townread him because I don't want to have to deal with explaining how I misread him.  

 

And pffft, I care way more as scum than I do as town.

 

 

VOUCH!!!!

 

lolololololol

 

 

 

VILLAGERY

 

Yes I am!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

I'm just going to read Spades as if I were reading Tress

 

Im a genius

 

Update: I really need to dig through Spades villager games just to get a better sense of her approach. This isn't really going to cut it. Trying to decipher Spades on stress level is probably a futile process

 

 

lmklmklmklmk what you come back with pleasae/?!?!?!!??!?

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ Linz

@ Sooh

@ Eld

 

Reads?

Tons of nulls, some towns

 

Town:

Linz

Zander

Eldrick

 

mmmmSpades

Clovdyx (*fingers crossed*)

 

Darthe (*bites nails*)

 

Nulls

 

Ted

 

Mafia:

-

 

 

Pretend for a sec you knew for certain Cordyx, me and ofc no pretending but Linz are all Town.

 

GTH give me a Scum read with reasoning or even maybe a 3 person WTL?

 

I don't have one yet. 

 

 

 

 

supersadface.gif

 

didnt i just quote a post where you were trying to get others to drop reads?!??!?!

 

Oh, so having a scum read is mandatory in order to ask others for reads? Ok, noted.

 

 

Well its not mandatory, but its somewhat hypocritical.

[Fredwood]

Hello, I am here ready to fight the Moonmen or w/e they fight in the show.

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Eldrick(1): Scruffington

Scruffington(4): Darthe, Linz, Marsh, Eldrick

 

 

A deadline is now set for Friday, July 14th at 11:30pm EST.  With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Votes were reset on replaced people.

[Cuth]

Fredwood clearly a scummy sub. Should lynch him while we can.

wolfy popin

 

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