Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[bopolis]

Eld probably won't get my whore comment so to clarify, I'm not someone who is bothered by throwing out an early or weak vote. I'm okay with reacting to a post and sharing the love based on what strikes me in a given moment.

 

i like this

[Darthe]

Most people itt are pretty townie but there's Def a gap opening between the best and the rest imo. It feels safe atm to give z, sooh, eldrick, and spade an early pass but I'm not yet there with bop or even cordyx and definitely not with anyone else. I always worry that these early reads are just a function of volume.

[Spadeszee]

Most people itt are pretty townie but there's Def a gap opening between the best and the rest imo. It feels safe atm to give z, sooh, eldrick, and spade an early pass but I'm not yet there with bop or even cordyx and definitely not with anyone else. I always worry that these early reads are just a function of volume.

Just in case you've forgotten, Boppy and I are Hydra~

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

*the player you subbed in for not you* is what that first part should have read.

 

I have no read on you since enjoying your posting means nothing to me wrt your alignment. It makes me not want to killyou not because i think you are a villager but because i have little desire to kill fun people.

 

 

secondly are you suspicious of me because you are saying that i've generated very little content overalll or that there is very little content in the thread overall?

 

Red- How does that even make sense?  It was Penny's slot originally but how come when it was supposed to be Penny it was Scum but now because it's me in the same slot its different?!!??  I mean sure maybe if Penneh had posted but she did so......!??!!?!?

 

Green- You keep talking about not killing someone fun, as a Villager you should wanna lynch Scum period.  I don't care if its Mother Theresa, if its my children, the Pope or that sweet sweet Prince returned from the grave Ramsay Bolton, if they're Scum Imma lunch em up.

 

Blue- Thats not what I said, I said there not a lot of content to evaluate from currently.  My issue is more based on your partners interactions with Sooh then you but this response is pretty meh, not gonna lie.

 

I wish I had some Meta to draw a baseline from but ya not a good start.

 

 

as to the red, randing wolf and subbing out is somethign i think penny would do so yes it matters

 

as to the green, long hair dont care ill do what i want

 

 

How many games have you played with Penny?

 

Has she ever subbed as Scum before?  As Town?  Is one more prevalent?

 

You don't think its possible she outted before role pm's were out or she couldn't have outted as Town?

 

Do you know she doesn't like playing as Scum at all?

 

i've probably played in over 20 games with her over a couple years across 2 different forums.

 

She doesnt like playing as scum i know that. I would have to look up to see how many times she has subbed out as scum before but i don't know if she habitually does it but i could certainly see her doing it hence my initial concern.

 

You say "You don't think its possible she outted before role pm's were out or she couldn't have outted as Town?" as if i am commiting to the read that you are lock scum when i have already said several times i dont know what you are. 

 

 

So you generally assume anyone subbing out is Scummy?

 

Does Penneh sub out as Town?

 

Cause if not this line of reasoning is not very good imo

 

as i said last night, it is entirely possible she could have subbed out as town but i have extra information that makes me think she could have as scum. but as i said several times already since i learned that she wanted to sub before she got her role PM it is now irrelevent.

 

 

 

 

YOURE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION

 

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN OR PLAYED IN A GAME WHERE PENNY HAS SUBBED OUT AS SCUM?!!?!?

 

"                                                                                                                         " AS TOWN?!?!?!?!

 

it is relevant for the reasons ive mentioned

 

Answer my qwuestions directly n maybe we can put this to bed?!?!?!?!

[Darthe]

I did not realize that! He Def trends up then, as opposed to you trending down.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*the player you subbed in for not you* is what that first part should have read.

 

I have no read on you since enjoying your posting means nothing to me wrt your alignment. It makes me not want to killyou not because i think you are a villager but because i have little desire to kill fun people.

 

 

secondly are you suspicious of me because you are saying that i've generated very little content overalll or that there is very little content in the thread overall?

Red- How does that even make sense? It was Penny's slot originally but how come when it was supposed to be Penny it was Scum but now because it's me in the same slot its different?!!?? I mean sure maybe if Penneh had posted but she did so......!??!!?!?

 

Green- You keep talking about not killing someone fun, as a Villager you should wanna lynch Scum period. I don't care if its Mother Theresa, if its my children, the Pope or that sweet sweet Prince returned from the grave Ramsay Bolton, if they're Scum Imma lunch em up.

 

Blue- Thats not what I said, I said there not a lot of content to evaluate from currently. My issue is more based on your partners interactions with Sooh then you but this response is pretty meh, not gonna lie.

 

I wish I had some Meta to draw a baseline from but ya not a good start.

as to the red, randing wolf and subbing out is somethign i think penny would do so yes it matters

 

as to the green, long hair dont care ill do what i want

How many games have you played with Penny?

 

Has she ever subbed as Scum before? As Town? Is one more prevalent?

 

You don't think its possible she outted before role pm's were out or she couldn't have outted as Town?

 

Do you know she doesn't like playing as Scum at all?

i've probably played in over 20 games with her over a couple years across 2 different forums.

 

She doesnt like playing as scum i know that. I would have to look up to see how many times she has subbed out as scum before but i don't know if she habitually does it but i could certainly see her doing it hence my initial concern.

 

You say "You don't think its possible she outted before role pm's were out or she couldn't have outted as Town?" as if i am commiting to the read that you are lock scum when i have already said several times i dont know what you are.

So you generally assume anyone subbing out is Scummy?

 

Does Penneh sub out as Town?

 

Cause if not this line of reasoning is not very good imo

as i said last night, it is entirely possible she could have subbed out as town but i have extra information that makes me think she could have as scum. but as i said several times already since i learned that she wanted to sub before she got her role PM it is now irrelevent.

 

 

YOURE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION

 

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN OR PLAYED IN A GAME WHERE PENNY HAS SUBBED OUT AS SCUM?!!?!?

 

" " AS TOWN?!?!?!?!

 

it is relevant for the reasons ive mentioned

 

Answer my qwuestions directly n maybe we can put this to bed?!?!?!?!

Jesus man he's a doctor not a mafia-wizard!

[Zander?]

CAN YOU SPAMMY JERKS STOP POSTING SO I CAN CATCH UP FFS?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Darthe]

Lol I just typed that cause of the shouting then realized it looks like a doctor hint.

[Sooh]

Zande, if you caught up and then replied in a couple of posts instead of replying to each post you'd probably save yourself a lot of frustration and time. 

 

You'd also save me a lot of coffee, just saying. 

Ain't going to happen

 

*hums*

[MrsClov]

 

Zande, if you caught up and then replied in a couple of posts instead of replying to each post you'd probably save yourself a lot of frustration and time. 

 

You'd also save me a lot of coffee, just saying. 

Ain't going to happen

 

*hums*

 

It was wishful thinking. 

[MrsClov]

CAN YOU SPAMMY JERKS STOP POSTING SO I CAN CATCH UP FFS?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

You're contributing to a good chunk of this, Z.

[Darthe]

Well well well let's not getting up on Zander now guys, the dude's got to win right that's almost half. He's practically as good as if you played the game at random and we need to respect that by giving him space.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

*the player you subbed in for not you* is what that first part should have read.

 

I have no read on you since enjoying your posting means nothing to me wrt your alignment. It makes me not want to killyou not because i think you are a villager but because i have little desire to kill fun people.

 

 

secondly are you suspicious of me because you are saying that i've generated very little content overalll or that there is very little content in the thread overall?

 

Red- How does that even make sense?  It was Penny's slot originally but how come when it was supposed to be Penny it was Scum but now because it's me in the same slot its different?!!??  I mean sure maybe if Penneh had posted but she did so......!??!!?!?

 

Green- You keep talking about not killing someone fun, as a Villager you should wanna lynch Scum period.  I don't care if its Mother Theresa, if its my children, the Pope or that sweet sweet Prince returned from the grave Ramsay Bolton, if they're Scum Imma lunch em up.

 

Blue- Thats not what I said, I said there not a lot of content to evaluate from currently.  My issue is more based on your partners interactions with Sooh then you but this response is pretty meh, not gonna lie.

 

I wish I had some Meta to draw a baseline from but ya not a good start.

 

My take on all this

 

Bop suspects that Penny subbed out because she was a wolf. You took over her slot, which makes you a wolf. (Not in my book, but what he was poking at)

 

He pretty clearly said he sees you as neutral. He likes your post style and hopes you'll stay in the game to keep it lively for everyone. Just because you're fun doesn't make you a villager. Just because you're fun doesn't make you a wolf. 

 

I personally don't think there is much content here yet, especially considering we've hardly heard from a few people. However, I would love to hear your opinions about the matter.

The only thing I really took from my interaction with Sooh, is after I accidentally put a little pressure on her, told her I didn't get a wolf read, she disappeared. I know timezone means shes probably snoozing, but she still peaced out.

 

 

Didnt you say you found her defensive and something else maybe iirc?

 

You say you're interested in the situation between Sooh and I yet you can't even remember what was said?

 

I said she came off as defensive but couldn't pinpoint where that came from. Villagers can be defensive if they think a wolf is trying to corner them and I can understand how my comment could come off as reaching really far.

 

What's you're take on the situation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it's too early to make reads, that and the only way to really get the ball rolling is to make a few reaches and see how people react.

 

What did you learn?

 

That I shouldn't tease you without a :P?

 

lol fair.

 

You sort of said you did it to see a reaction though, and I was curious to see where the reaction lead you?

 

You seem defensive/jumpy, but it's really hard to tell why. I get that maybe I just seemed really aggressive and trying to start trouble to you.

 

 

Seriously????

 

You didnt even mention or seemingly remember the other word...lolololol

 

I think it reads awkward, as I had previously mentioned.

 

How is this even a point to be made?

 

She specifically asked me what I got from our miscommunication (which historically I'm know for having)

And she did seem on edge to me a little, but that edgyness could come from me seeming really aggressive out of nowhere.

 

The only thing really saving you here is you're not trying to make friends with us. I don't mind being in the line of fire, but this is really pointless nit-picking.

 

 

You said I was sussing you without knowing why....I showed you otherwise/

 

Historically, I thought youve only played 3 games?!?!?!?!

 

Well was it edgy, defensive and/or jumpy?!?!!?

 

Do you feel its alignment indicative or not?

 

Im not trying to make friends Im trying to hunt Wolves and find Townies.  (tho i hope we can be friends too!!!!!)

 

Ive explained my issues, Im looking for answers that will either alleviate my concerns or lead me to believe my initial ping was correct and I need to pursue your lynch.

[Sooh]

YOURE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION

 

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN OR PLAYED IN A GAME WHERE PENNY HAS SUBBED OUT AS SCUM?!!?!?

 

"                                                                                                                         " AS TOWN?!?!?!?!

 

it is relevant for the reasons ive mentioned

 

Answer my qwuestions directly n maybe we can put this to bed?!?!?!?!

 

omfg Z, in which universe is this productive in the least?

[Zander?]

 

 

Eldrick town looks like an easy read this game, for sure.

 

I'm actually liking zander too. Marsh, on the other hand, not Suu much.

 

......................Derf legit sketching me out, he's prolly just a Wolf tho

Why?

 

 

Derf is an awful Zander reader, he even admitted this in one of the QT's last game.  Knowing that I am Town, this post pings me some.

 

 

 

 

Seriously????

 

You didnt even mention or seemingly remember the other word...lolololol

 

I think it reads awkward, as I had previously mentioned.

This is a super flimsy reason. It's easy to not remember part of a post.

 

 

She accused me of this Eld, I was showing her she did that herself.

[Darthe]

I had the thought that Zander might be forcing his meta but I don't think that it's late enough to really give that thought weight.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Eldrick town looks like an easy read this game, for sure.

 

I'm actually liking zander too. Marsh, on the other hand, not Suu much.

......................Derf legit sketching me out, he's prolly just a Wolf tho

Why?

Derf is an awful Zander reader, he even admitted this in one of the QT's last game. Knowing that I am Town, this post pings me some

Even for you thats beyond weak

[Zander?]

Hard to listen with the BRCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHHHHHH of the Jackhammer in your ears

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

 

Zander give spdes and bop some space bby

 

They're doing good work, we can evaluate them later

 

 

Fine boo, but if theyre Scum do I get to gloat post game?!?!?!!?!?

[bopolis]

 

 

 

YOURE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION

 

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN OR PLAYED IN A GAME WHERE PENNY HAS SUBBED OUT AS SCUM?!!?!?

 

"                                                                                                                         " AS TOWN?!?!?!?!

 

it is relevant for the reasons ive mentioned

 

Answer my qwuestions directly n maybe we can put this to bed?!?!?!?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

Yeah, sorry. I mentioned in sign ups that we're gearing up for vacation, and we're leaving on Sat, so I've been busy cleaning the house so it'll be nice to come home to, plus there's quite a bit to do on Mafia Universe these days with the Anni game and moderation.

 

I can't be here as much as I wish, and that sucks.

From what you've read so far do you have thoughts and stuff? 

 

Not too much as of yet. I find Bop using Alette outing as a basis for a read is eyebrow-raising worthy. Nothing surprising or very alignment indicative from Zander yet as far as I remember, and Eldrick looks like he normally does in his town games. 

 

 

Didnt you just take issue with ME doing this?!?!!?!?

I did not. where do you think you read that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*the player you subbed in for not you* is what that first part should have read.

 

I have no read on you since enjoying your posting means nothing to me wrt your alignment. It makes me not want to killyou not because i think you are a villager but because i have little desire to kill fun people.

 

 

secondly are you suspicious of me because you are saying that i've generated very little content overalll or that there is very little content in the thread overall?

 

Red- How does that even make sense?  It was Penny's slot originally but how come when it was supposed to be Penny it was Scum but now because it's me in the same slot its different?!!??  I mean sure maybe if Penneh had posted but she did so......!??!!?!?

 

Green- You keep talking about not killing someone fun, as a Villager you should wanna lynch Scum period.  I don't care if its Mother Theresa, if its my children, the Pope or that sweet sweet Prince returned from the grave Ramsay Bolton, if they're Scum Imma lunch em up.

 

Blue- Thats not what I said, I said there not a lot of content to evaluate from currently.  My issue is more based on your partners interactions with Sooh then you but this response is pretty meh, not gonna lie.

 

I wish I had some Meta to draw a baseline from but ya not a good start.

 

Yeah, I know there's a "Rand wolf, sub out" thing that people keep referring to (which I hope is false more often than not tbh), but in this case as I understood it, Penny had communicated her intention to sub out long before the role PMs went out, so I don't understand why you would even think in that direction.

 

 

Are you referring to me or him.

 

If its me I get she did it pregame but it still bothers me. 

 

Penneh is an easy mislynch and it seems like he was trying to fins an insta reason for doing so and it legit bothers me.

 

He said he's played a lot with her and she subs out as Scum, Im trying to get him to answer if he's seen her do it as Town before as well and if he finds subbing out Scummy in general.

 

His answers will either make me feel better or worse about him.

 

 

 

 

#thereadingishard?!?!!?!?!?

[Spadeszee]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*the player you subbed in for not you* is what that first part should have read.

 

I have no read on you since enjoying your posting means nothing to me wrt your alignment. It makes me not want to killyou not because i think you are a villager but because i have little desire to kill fun people.

 

 

secondly are you suspicious of me because you are saying that i've generated very little content overalll or that there is very little content in the thread overall?

 

Red- How does that even make sense?  It was Penny's slot originally but how come when it was supposed to be Penny it was Scum but now because it's me in the same slot its different?!!??  I mean sure maybe if Penneh had posted but she did so......!??!!?!?

 

Green- You keep talking about not killing someone fun, as a Villager you should wanna lynch Scum period.  I don't care if its Mother Theresa, if its my children, the Pope or that sweet sweet Prince returned from the grave Ramsay Bolton, if they're Scum Imma lunch em up.

 

Blue- Thats not what I said, I said there not a lot of content to evaluate from currently.  My issue is more based on your partners interactions with Sooh then you but this response is pretty meh, not gonna lie.

 

I wish I had some Meta to draw a baseline from but ya not a good start.

 

My take on all this

 

Bop suspects that Penny subbed out because she was a wolf. You took over her slot, which makes you a wolf. (Not in my book, but what he was poking at)

 

He pretty clearly said he sees you as neutral. He likes your post style and hopes you'll stay in the game to keep it lively for everyone. Just because you're fun doesn't make you a villager. Just because you're fun doesn't make you a wolf. 

 

I personally don't think there is much content here yet, especially considering we've hardly heard from a few people. However, I would love to hear your opinions about the matter.

The only thing I really took from my interaction with Sooh, is after I accidentally put a little pressure on her, told her I didn't get a wolf read, she disappeared. I know timezone means shes probably snoozing, but she still peaced out.

 

 

Didnt you say you found her defensive and something else maybe iirc?

 

You say you're interested in the situation between Sooh and I yet you can't even remember what was said?

 

I said she came off as defensive but couldn't pinpoint where that came from. Villagers can be defensive if they think a wolf is trying to corner them and I can understand how my comment could come off as reaching really far.

 

What's you're take on the situation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it's too early to make reads, that and the only way to really get the ball rolling is to make a few reaches and see how people react.

 

What did you learn?

 

That I shouldn't tease you without a :P?

 

lol fair.

 

You sort of said you did it to see a reaction though, and I was curious to see where the reaction lead you?

 

You seem defensive/jumpy, but it's really hard to tell why. I get that maybe I just seemed really aggressive and trying to start trouble to you.

 

 

Seriously????

 

You didnt even mention or seemingly remember the other word...lolololol

 

I think it reads awkward, as I had previously mentioned.

 

How is this even a point to be made?

 

She specifically asked me what I got from our miscommunication (which historically I'm know for having)

And she did seem on edge to me a little, but that edgyness could come from me seeming really aggressive out of nowhere.

 

The only thing really saving you here is you're not trying to make friends with us. I don't mind being in the line of fire, but this is really pointless nit-picking.

 

 

You said I was sussing you without knowing why....I showed you otherwise/

 

Historically, I thought youve only played 3 games?!?!?!?!

 

Well was it edgy, defensive and/or jumpy?!?!!?

 

Do you feel its alignment indicative or not?

 

Im not trying to make friends Im trying to hunt Wolves and find Townies.  (tho i hope we can be friends too!!!!!)

 

Ive explained my issues, Im looking for answers that will either alleviate my concerns or lead me to believe my initial ping was correct and I need to pursue your lynch.

 

"You seem defensive/jumpy, but it's really hard to tell why. I get that maybe I just seemed really aggressive and trying to start trouble to you."

"And she did seem on edge to me a little, but that edgyness could come from me seeming really aggressive out of nowhere."

 

You seem defensive/jumpy, but it's really hard to tell why. I get that maybe I just seemed really aggressive and trying to start trouble to you.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, sorry. I mentioned in sign ups that we're gearing up for vacation, and we're leaving on Sat, so I've been busy cleaning the house so it'll be nice to come home to, plus there's quite a bit to do on Mafia Universe these days with the Anni game and moderation.

 

I can't be here as much as I wish, and that sucks.

From what you've read so far do you have thoughts and stuff? 

 

Not too much as of yet. I find Bop using Alette outing as a basis for a read is eyebrow-raising worthy. Nothing surprising or very alignment indicative from Zander yet as far as I remember, and Eldrick looks like he normally does in his town games. 

 

 

Didnt you just take issue with ME doing this?!?!!?!?

I did not. where do you think you read that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*the player you subbed in for not you* is what that first part should have read.

 

I have no read on you since enjoying your posting means nothing to me wrt your alignment. It makes me not want to killyou not because i think you are a villager but because i have little desire to kill fun people.

 

 

secondly are you suspicious of me because you are saying that i've generated very little content overalll or that there is very little content in the thread overall?

 

Red- How does that even make sense?  It was Penny's slot originally but how come when it was supposed to be Penny it was Scum but now because it's me in the same slot its different?!!??  I mean sure maybe if Penneh had posted but she did so......!??!!?!?

 

Green- You keep talking about not killing someone fun, as a Villager you should wanna lynch Scum period.  I don't care if its Mother Theresa, if its my children, the Pope or that sweet sweet Prince returned from the grave Ramsay Bolton, if they're Scum Imma lunch em up.

 

Blue- Thats not what I said, I said there not a lot of content to evaluate from currently.  My issue is more based on your partners interactions with Sooh then you but this response is pretty meh, not gonna lie.

 

I wish I had some Meta to draw a baseline from but ya not a good start.

 

Yeah, I know there's a "Rand wolf, sub out" thing that people keep referring to (which I hope is false more often than not tbh), but in this case as I understood it, Penny had communicated her intention to sub out long before the role PMs went out, so I don't understand why you would even think in that direction.

 

 

Are you referring to me or him.

 

If its me I get she did it pregame but it still bothers me. 

 

Penneh is an easy mislynch and it seems like he was trying to fins an insta reason for doing so and it legit bothers me.

 

He said he's played a lot with her and she subs out as Scum, Im trying to get him to answer if he's seen her do it as Town before as well and if he finds subbing out Scummy in general.

 

His answers will either make me feel better or worse about him.

 

 

 

 

#thereadingishard?!?!!?!?!?

 

Sure is. If you don't understand that I'm referring to Bop in that post, then I don't know what to say. 

 

As far as I'm aware you never tried using Alette outing as a basis for a read, so for you to think that I said that is beyond ridiculous, Z. 

[Spadeszee]

[Cory Caboose]

you guys can do this whole thing, i'm gonna find a wolf and lynch em right before EoD

 

[Zander?]

Cory, does town!Zander go in circles like this on things that seem silly?

 

 

Yes and same response to Corky's response to this

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

poss w/w distancing maybe?!!?!?

 

 

................

 

 

 

.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?....????........??????........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Objectively bad or subjectively bad?? Cause good players do things that are objectively bad all there time but rarely Will they do something that's bad in the specific Game our moment as wolves. Good wolves have too much situational awareness for that.

Is this for me about Bop or something else?

Iss for chu

 

Ok, I'm not really getting the question? Seems more like general speculation about mafia.

 

As for how I feel about Bop/Spades:

Spades made a joke (her words) to me which sounded like reaching. Then Bop makes a reaching comment about Zander's position while at the same time calling Zander towny, so it seems a lot like hedging and I'm not sure I like that. These two events make me want to watch their play closely, but given that I have a lot of respect for Bop's play from experience (not that I don't about Spades, I just don't have as much experience there yet) I'm juggling between thinking it was a reaction test to get reads like MrsClov said and it's a shading attempt. Two options, polar opposite in terms of towny/wolfy imo.

 

Seeing the examples of bop and spades each reaching on two different things does give me pause and question my thoughts a bit. I think I was reading them separately and not necessarily as a hydra. Curious to see where this goes. 

 

 

poss w/w distancing maybe?!!?!?

 

Who are you referring to specifically?

 

 

?!?!?!?

 

youre calling my stuff silly and you dont know what im referring to!??!!?!

 

sadface.gif

 

Sooh/S-Bop

 

 

 

Cory, does town!Zander go in circles like this on things that seem silly?

 

yes

 

 

Yes tho I dont find what Im looking at.asking for to be silly.

 

I remember World's End.

Sooh, you remember World's End?

 

I remember World's End.

 

If this just a memory thing irt Sooh or an alignment thing?!?!?!!?