[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

Cass · June 13, 2017

@Killa/Kronos, can you explain the bold below/what theory you were working on?

On 6/10/2017 at 3:56 AM, Killashandra said:
Cuth I feel like your read of me and Kronos is not genuine and only comes because of our vote. Which is fine. We had good reasons for voting you. We had a theory about who was the cop and did not want to out anyone if we where right or wrong. Talking to much about why you bordered that. Its not as if I or Kronos ever had your slot as quasi questionable.

I am hoping this shakes down the way we assume it will.

@Killa, what do you mean by 'not as if ... ever had your slot as quasi questionable?'

This was the reads list you gave previously

On 6/9/2017 at 12:54 AM, Killashandra said:
Tig I will give you a quick run down until I can sit at my laptop and run through quotes and shiz.

Shad has dropped from town to null. He could have just made a bad call on the vote but the lack of activity when he was so full steam before is meh. Not enough to make him scum to me but also not great. The keyboard thing could be legit though.

Still nothing from DPR so I got nothing there other than trepidation. Lol

I would like to see Cass and BFG thought s but they still sit in my townie pile from yesterday.

Shanti you put yourself as top town haha but I would not put you as high on mine. Still town but not at the tip top.

Cuthnyn is the same as yesterday. Cuth reads null/possible town and nyn reads ... Well nyn. She is a wild card at best.

I am still hopeful about town tig.

Dice is pretty middle of the road null with a side of tinfoil.

Alf is somewhat suspect at this point. Low activity and it feels more like slanking than busy because I did not see (but maybe missed) an explanation.

I dont know where to put Adella. She started off good but I get a funny feeling about her at times. I am waiting and watching to see what she says and does next.

DPR · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:05 AM, Shad_ said:
Practically everything DPR writes reeks of half-assed fluff encased in large paragraphs to me and if other people aren't seeing it they should look harder.

I'm not sure this approach is working.

Maybe you should try something different - perhaps an interpretive dance, or a moving piece of music. Just spitballin' here.

Shanti · June 13, 2017

@Adella are you still leaning DPR as your biggest scum atm? If not then who is?

@BFG same question to you.

@DPR same question

Sorry everything is all jumbled for me trying to read back through.

Cass where are you standing?

Adella · June 13, 2017

On 6/11/2017 at 10:46 PM, dicetosser1 said:

On 6/11/2017 at 11:40 AM, BFG said:

HARDCLAIM SURVIVOR win con F6

The wincon is important because it means I can't mafia side at lylo (since the game didn't start 8v4v1)

Which means I am now self resolving

I was shot N1, I would guess PR hunting since I was quiet although I would have thought that Nyn would know that activity is dependent on time so vig is possible

vote BFG

you arnt town you die. simple.

my thinking on some of what you have said

the F6 wincon makes no sense, especially added to a BPV in a BASIC game. Dont SKs usually get BPVs not survivors? The mod types can answer that cause i dont know for sure but its in my head

you have said you have to side with town. How so? What happens if it seems scum starts dominating? What happens if it gets right to the wire? Scum might get to a spot where they can FORCE you to side with them. I know. Yates did it to me.

On 6/11/2017 at 12:22 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Awesome. All the work I did making a post for when night ended didn't get saved.

Ok short version, from memory.

My experience with DPR was when he was 3p, and therefore not scum hunting. He was story telling. I don't see that here, so I feel good about him.

Nyn posted something about getting Tigs and Adella mixed up. I don't see her doing that about her teammate, so Adella looks good.

Don't know what to make about the DPR/Shad interactions. It comes off as simply not understanding each other, but that's null.

Shanti had a post when she was defending herself that came off as very organic and genuine. Got buko town vibes from it. I will pull it later.I

Dice has explained why he went after Shad and not Nyn. Because iho Nyn doesn't do that as scum. And yet she clearly did. Biggest reason I have rn to read someone as scum. Feels like not wanting to bring attention to a teammate.

[V]Dice[/v]

Heres a challenge for you Eldrick. Go find me examples of nyn claiming scum with her first post. You do that and I'll admit to a faulty memory.

On 6/11/2017 at 2:56 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/11/2017 at 2:51 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

On 6/11/2017 at 2:47 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

I said the same thing.

I said the neither Cuth nor Nyn played comfortably as scum, based on my experience playing with both.

I'm not clearing dice - I'm not clearing anyone (maybe Shanti for obvious reasons) but I saw it the same way he did. I just need to go back and see if he said it before or after I did.

pretty sure it was before. While you were away

ok im gonna be in blue inside this one

On 6/11/2017 at 5:33 PM, Shanti said:

Dice- I re-ISO'd you here and in P+C. Your "rapid-fire" voting is much different this game than that. I haven't played any other game with you, so I'm going on the one I have. You pretty well immediately started defending Nyn, which is not a good look at this point, and I cannot tell if your interaction with Shad at that point is genuine or distancing. Seems pretty hardcore for you compared to P+C. You were skeptical of people in your first few posts in P+C but didn't tunnel on them and certainly didn't vote them. What did you mean in response to my question about Shads vote switch not making sense to me and you answering with "Consolidation"? You have been biased towards Shad from the beginning, claiming he's scum for doing things Nyn did, but Nyn just wasn't scum in your eyes literally from the start. How does that look to you at this point? Nyn WAS scum, and if Shad is scum for doing what Nyn did, but you were defending scum, does that make you all three scum? Your posting is consistent as far as count goes, 2 pages this game, 2 pages last game, but you were also Hydra last game so having the same amount of posting despite that is different. Your tone towards Shad through this entire game is so argumentative I don't know why, and can't put my finger on it. Maybe it is lingering thoughts to maybe you being scummates with Nyn. Or maybe you're trying to throw doubt his way to frame him. I'll know more of this picture when I ISO him. But for now I will throw this quote from DPR that you yourself quoted, but unless I read wrong, you ignored... why quote it then ignore it? I'll ask a similar question to Shad about this quote.

a reason for switching your vote at the last minute is consolidation. Making SURE it doesnt go Random. It most often considered a towny thing but not always

now for you and ELDRICK lets take a look at what a defence is shall we? A defence is where someone mounts an argument where they make a substantial case for someone not doing/being something. Any lawyers who defends their client with a couple of lines is gonna get sued when he loses. I offered two things re Nyn that she doesnt claim wolf out the gate and that she seemed to be in a mood cause she was trolling. It got said more then once because people kept harping on about it. I also didnt say ANYTHING about nyn til asked by cass so "straight away" is a stretch Shanti.

I also explained why i view it differently for shad,. if you wanna go thru my games shanti you will find I have a large habit of jumping on people for doing what shad did. And i have been right. but it also depends who does it. how they do it. my feeligns about that person.

Tunneling. Actually I tend to tunnel when i really think im right. I just keep on and on about it. particualrly as people dont listen to me.

i will tell you what i basically told your sister dont come at me about post counts post counts mean nothing and that argument tends to p me off REAL quick

"IMO, Town Shad would have looked at Dice as scum aiming for a mislynch and Scum Shad defends the comment made about him."

can you give me where this quote is? i remember him saying it but dont remember quoting it

On to a few more brow raising quotes of yours

"i think he should be lynched just for claiming wolf like he did. And yes im aware nyn did the same sort of post the difference is style Shad is tricky and somewhat arrogant about mafia he is the type that will be a wolf and claim it playing on people to not believe anyone would do this.

nyn isnt. thats not her style. she never claims unless she HAS too and even then i think thereve been games where shes been lynched without claiming."

So you've spent most of your content trying to prove Shad IS scum, and Nyn was not. In light of things I'm tempted to lean towards trying to frame Shad. Either way I'll figure that out in his ISO, but to me you have secured your spot in the scum pile. Pending anything major jumping out in the rest of the ISO's, my vote is currently headed in your direction, but I will wait until I'm finished with everyone to make the final call on that.

So because I think someone is scum and go after them Im scum? Seriously?

And because i think someone ISNT scum im also scum?

So how exactly do i get to be Town? cause according to you i cant scum hunt and i cant town hunt and i cant stay on the fence about someone

dicetosser1, on 07 Jun 2017 - 07:26 AM, said:

On 6/7/2017 at 11:26 AM, dicetosser1 said:

i already answered this

i dont put this being a real claim past shad. One of these days im gonna lynch him for this and he will flip mafia. hes tricksy enuff to think he can get away with it and probably figures that if he keeps doing it it probably raises his chances more of getting away with it

I dont ever see nyn doing this for real. its not her style.

"I'm not satisfied with this answer. Can't explain why exactly. Just doesn't sit right or ring true to me."

That is a quote grabbed from me in reference to you, and I still feel the same. To which you answered....

"tell you what when u have as much experience as me with those two then u can argue with me about it"

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

Posted by dicetosser1 on Yesterday, 01:05 AM in DM Mafia Games

Shad_, on 09 Jun 2017 - 2:38 PM, said:

On 6/9/2017 at 6:38 PM, Shad_ said:

dicetosser1, on 09 Jun 2017 - 06:42 AM, said:

On 6/9/2017 at 10:42 AM, dicetosser1 said:
shad should be lynched but im not gonna waste my breath on it

Is this literally just for the wolf head image?

Hey check it out:

Dice, I'm scum!

oooooooooooo

Try harder.

bite me.

This all reads fake to me.

it is a little because what i was GOING to say was not that tame but i thought id better not get modkilled or break CoC which i just DONT do.

Then my favorite of all... after ALL of your defending Nyn, and AFTER her fate was pretty well sealed... THEN you jump on the wagon. As a last attempt to try to make yourself look a bit better and distance? Gave nothing more than the quote by Tig's reveal.

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

Posted by dicetosser1 on Yesterday, 09:14 AM in DM Mafia Games

Tigraine, on 09 Jun 2017 - 6:31 PM, said:

On 6/9/2017 at 10:31 PM, Tigraine said:

Okay so I've been in and out of service today cause I had to come do laundry at my father-in-law's house.

I've done a reads list for some not for some but I feel like atm it doesn't even matter. What matters is that Cuth/Nyn you ARE scum 100%. I think it's downright dirty to get on here and try to bring personal stuff into a conversation to hide that you are scum and honestly can't believe you haven't been called out by the mod for it. How is that not a personal attack? But I turned you two in last night instead of DPR (which I go for almost every single time I'm a cop in a game with him) because he was away and busy and I knew we had time to deal with him later. But the point is that you are mafia aligned. I really don't care that I will probably be NKed now because people getting on here and finding your personal attacks funny is so far off from what I thought the people on here were like.

But that being said Vote: Cuth/Nyn

"vote cuth/nyn"

Reads oh so scummy to me.

Really need to hear from you, but after all that I've read, not sure it will even help at this point.

More coming, guys things are getting hectic where I am and I also need to start getting ready for a 6 hour drive home. Still fully intend to ISO everyone else, though.

so what? you want me to ignore a cop view? never happen unless I am the cop and they fake claimed. Im not the cop so this game that was never gonna happen.

heres a hint for you people coming into line on a person after a cop view means nothing. EVERYBODY will do it regardless of alignment regardless of if they were defending a person or were attacking the cop themselves. like 90+% of the time.

Large part at the very bottom: sounds like exactly what you did...

DPR · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:16 AM, Shanti said:

@Adella are you still leaning DPR as your biggest scum atm? If not then who is?

@BFG same question to you.

@DPR same question

Sorry everything is all jumbled for me trying to read back through.

Cass where are you standing?

I'm not really leaning toward myself as my biggest scum. I mean, I'm good - but I'm not that good.

You settled after throwing your fit?

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:11 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:05 AM, Shad_ said:
Practically everything DPR writes reeks of half-assed fluff encased in large paragraphs to me and if other people aren't seeing it they should look harder.

I'm not sure this approach is working.

Maybe you should try something different - perhaps an interpretive dance, or a moving piece of music. Just spitballin' here.

I don't really care what you think?

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

@ Adella

Let's say you have 3 town, a wolf, and a survivor. Survivor is hard confirmed, say full role cop peek or something.

You can try to kill a wolf, and if you miss you lose because the next day is 1-1-1.

Or you can kill the survivor, then still have one shot to lynch scum between the exact same suspects you had before, minus the night kill if scum don't holster.

Ergo a real survivor is never a threat to town.

It is scum sided in set-up balance because town gets one fewer mislynch. That loss is taken the moment the thread opens.

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

This isn't esoteric knowledge and in a better village it would be common sense, and the people who get it would explain it to the rest and the question would be exclusively about whether or not we believe she is a survivor.

DPR · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:25 AM, Shad_ said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:11 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:05 AM, Shad_ said:
Practically everything DPR writes reeks of half-assed fluff encased in large paragraphs to me and if other people aren't seeing it they should look harder.

I'm not sure this approach is working.

Maybe you should try something different - perhaps an interpretive dance, or a moving piece of music. Just spitballin' here.

I don't really care what you think?

I think we all know that's just not true.

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

Ok

Shanti · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:24 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:16 AM, Shanti said:

@Adella are you still leaning DPR as your biggest scum atm? If not then who is?

@BFG same question to you.

@DPR same question

Sorry everything is all jumbled for me trying to read back through.

Cass where are you standing?

I'm not really leaning toward myself as my biggest scum. I mean, I'm good - but I'm not that good.

You settled after throwing your fit?

Throwing my fit?

You know what I meant. I get you've got your knickers in a wad right now, but you should calm your tits towards one of the only people not gunning for you right now.

Adella · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:11 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:05 AM, Shad_ said:
Practically everything DPR writes reeks of half-assed fluff encased in large paragraphs to me and if other people aren't seeing it they should look harder.

I'm not sure this approach is working.

Maybe you should try something different - perhaps an interpretive dance, or a moving piece of music. Just spitballin' here.

I second this. I vote for a dance. LOL

On 6/13/2017 at 3:16 AM, Shanti said:

@Adella are you still leaning DPR as your biggest scum atm? If not then who is?

@BFG same question to you.

@DPR same question

Sorry everything is all jumbled for me trying to read back through.

Cass where are you standing?

Not at the moment, he is putting in too much work to get a role that many people are feeling neutral about lynched. It seems like a mistake not many seasoned players would make.

DPR · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:25 AM, Shad_ said:

@ Adella

Let's say you have 3 town, a wolf, and a survivor. Survivor is hard confirmed, say full role cop peek or something.

You can try to kill a wolf, and if you miss you lose because the next day is 1-1-1.

Or you can kill the survivor, then still have one shot to lynch scum between the exact same suspects you had before, minus the night kill if scum don't holster.

Ergo a real survivor is never a threat to town.

It is scum sided in set-up balance because town gets one fewer mislynch. That loss is taken the moment the thread opens.

I read this and I swear you just proved the argument to kill the Survivor? Right?

Because you prolong the Town's life while gaining all of that glorious info from the deaths - info that will help the voting choices.

You just said that, right?

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:30 AM, Adella said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:11 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:05 AM, Shad_ said:
Practically everything DPR writes reeks of half-assed fluff encased in large paragraphs to me and if other people aren't seeing it they should look harder.

I'm not sure this approach is working.

Maybe you should try something different - perhaps an interpretive dance, or a moving piece of music. Just spitballin' here.

I second this. I vote for a dance. LOL

Apparently shitposting is the new villaging now and opinions are for wolves.

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:31 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:25 AM, Shad_ said:

@ Adella

Let's say you have 3 town, a wolf, and a survivor. Survivor is hard confirmed, say full role cop peek or something.

You can try to kill a wolf, and if you miss you lose because the next day is 1-1-1.

Or you can kill the survivor, then still have one shot to lynch scum between the exact same suspects you had before, minus the night kill if scum don't holster.

Ergo a real survivor is never a threat to town.

It is scum sided in set-up balance because town gets one fewer mislynch. That loss is taken the moment the thread opens.

I read this and I swear you just proved the argument to kill the Survivor? Right?

Because you prolong the Town's life while gaining all of that glorious info from the deaths - info that will help the voting choices.

You just said that, right?

Do you just quote me and bang your dick on the keyboard or are you capable of intelligent thought?

Adella · June 13, 2017

Right now I am seeing the points on Dice as making the most sense. Specifically the bit about clearing Nyn on the wolf emoji, but not liking that Shad did it. Nyn isn't a new player, nor does she lack in the tricky department. She can (and obviously did) make that post just because she would think it's hilarious that she wasn't lying. I don't know why Dice would put that out of the realm of possibility unless he was trying to take heat off of his teammate. That is the one reason I find it hard to believe Dice and Shad may be s/s but it could just be a pretty loud bus.

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

I'm just being trolled at this point.

Hey let's pretend we still don't understand what Shad is saying and express confusion/disagreement for the 20th time. He'll explain himself again. It will be hilarious.

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

Last I heard Shanti still wants to lynch me because she thinks I've been pushing to lynch BFG too aggressively.

DPR · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:28 AM, Shanti said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:24 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:16 AM, Shanti said:

@Adella are you still leaning DPR as your biggest scum atm? If not then who is?

@BFG same question to you.

@DPR same question

Sorry everything is all jumbled for me trying to read back through.

Cass where are you standing?

I'm not really leaning toward myself as my biggest scum. I mean, I'm good - but I'm not that good.

You settled after throwing your fit?

Throwing my fit?

You know what I meant. I get you've got your knickers in a wad right now, but you should calm your tits towards one of the only people not gunning for you right now.

Oh, I'm not concerned with the people "gunning for me" right now. That ship ain't gonna sail and they're already backing off of it.

Your fit, on the other hand, has the potential to derail your own game. We have plenty of time. Let folks post and put themselves out there. When it's time to make moves, people will.

You gotta keep the emo in check or you'll burn out early - your sis will back me up on this. Relax.

Adella · June 13, 2017

Shad, watch the DM pg-13 rule please. I get that you're frustrated, but if you're cussing maybe you should take a step back for a minute.

Also, I'm sorry if you feel no one is allowed to make a joke now and then, but that is actually false. DPR has been drowning us in game related posts, but god forbid he make one lighthearted one. Also, I do what I want, so...

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

And Eldrick's going to string me up because I thought for a moment that DPR might be a town PR so I am never allowed to be suspicious of him again.

DPR · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:34 AM, Shad_ said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:31 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

On 6/13/2017 at 3:25 AM, Shad_ said:

@ Adella

Let's say you have 3 town, a wolf, and a survivor. Survivor is hard confirmed, say full role cop peek or something.

You can try to kill a wolf, and if you miss you lose because the next day is 1-1-1.

Or you can kill the survivor, then still have one shot to lynch scum between the exact same suspects you had before, minus the night kill if scum don't holster.

Ergo a real survivor is never a threat to town.

It is scum sided in set-up balance because town gets one fewer mislynch. That loss is taken the moment the thread opens.

I read this and I swear you just proved the argument to kill the Survivor? Right?

Because you prolong the Town's life while gaining all of that glorious info from the deaths - info that will help the voting choices.

You just said that, right?

Do you just quote me and bang your dick on the keyboard or are you capable of intelligent thought?

Not telling.

Adella · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:36 AM, Shad_ said:

I'm just being trolled at this point.

Hey let's pretend we still don't understand what Shad is saying and express confusion/disagreement for the 20th time. He'll explain himself again. It will be hilarious.

I don't actually see anyone asking you questions or expressing confusion at this point. Was your reply to my post that was totally not about you?

Shad_ · June 13, 2017

On 6/13/2017 at 3:38 AM, Adella said:

Shad, watch the DM pg-13 rule please. I get that you're frustrated, but if you're cussing maybe you should take a step back for a minute.

Also, I'm sorry if you feel no one is allowed to make a joke now and then, but that is actually false. DPR has been drowning us in game related posts, but god forbid he make one lighthearted one. Also, I do what I want, so...

Which I have commented on, at length, and received zero feedback on.

Adella · June 13, 2017

Shad, take a break bro. Sorry, but for some reason your spiraling replying to yourself at this point...

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

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