[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[monstrman]

niniel has done more here than in the other game

 

lock clear

[seph]

Sadly I'll be leaving for a bit though.

If you find my d1 vote count post would be interested in your thoughts.

 

I'll post it in a bit regardless

[seph]

niniel has done more here than in the other game

lock clear

I already said that. Zander and dpr are there with her :)

[monstrman]

wouldn't it be funny if i subbed into a team with niniel and dpr

[monstrman]

i'll read the whole thread later right now i just wanna chill and make jokes

 

maybe bait some wolves into voting me

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

Tigraine iso.

 

She explained why she were away and why she posted in other threads first. I´m okay with that explanaition. Then her reads as I get it:

 

Killa - not sure

DPR - not sure

Ed - not sure

Sooh - town

Darthe - not sure

Dice - not sure but more scummy

Seph - scummy

 

 

So she is mostly on the fence. And she hasn´t asked any of them any questions. And she didn´t vote.

 

So Tigs = scummy.

Did you just point out that because I didn't vote on one of my scum reads that I'm scummy and then NOT VOTE ME?

 

 

Did she say that in another post Tig, I men about having an issue with you not having a vote on on of your Scum reads?

 

 

 

 

I had inspections today on my apartment... I love in the project's and have to do this once a month. I'm getting back on my reads of everyone and still have the list for zander.

 

I am town

I am not scum or wolf or mafia or 3rd party.

My alignment is town.

I won when we eliminate all threats to the town.

 

Short of promising you my first born, that's all I've got. And that's actually up for discussion. He's 11 and thinks he's 40. You're welcome to him.

 

I have to come back to this for a min. Tigs why did post this after going on about how it could potentially be a trigger, and being baffled that no one was questioning it.  What changed in that regard??

 

 

 

This and her reasoning for doing this is def one of the reason Im sussing her and barring something crazy think shes the best lynch today.

 

 

 

 

Tigraine iso.

 

She explained why she were away and why she posted in other threads first. I´m okay with that explanaition. Then her reads as I get it:

 

Killa - not sure

DPR - not sure

Ed - not sure

Sooh - town

Darthe - not sure

Dice - not sure but more scummy

Seph - scummy

 

 

So she is mostly on the fence. And she hasn´t asked any of them any questions. And she didn´t vote.

 

So Tigs = scummy.

Did you just point out that because I didn't vote on one of my scum reads that I'm scummy and then NOT VOTE ME?

 

 

I´m not done isoíng.

 

 

 

If you did do what Tig said above then ya, its a tad hypocritical especially if Tig had said something like, Im still catching up, havent iso everyone etc something along those lines.

 

 

I assure you that I will vote before dl. As you can see, neither Tigs or Ed voted yesterday. 

 

FINAL VOTE COUNT

 

Lenlo (2) - DPR, Niniel

 

Adam (5) - seph, Dice, Killashandra, Zander, Lenlo

 

Ed (3) - Sooh, Nyn, Adam

 

Sooh (1) - Darthe

 

Not Voting: Tigraine, Ed

 

Adam has been lynched.

 

 

I can see that you are not a fan of my claim. So you think I´m mafia?

 

So, your response and bringing up me and Tigs not voting as some sort of weird defense is hella freaking suss. 

 

How do they even relate to each other? 

Tigs said you're hypocritical for calling her scum and not voting her when you called her scum for not voting her scum leans. 

[monstrman]

hello edward

[Killashandra]

Oh shiz its monstr. Sup?

 

I hope they take the bait.

[monstrman]

edward/niniel v/v

 

watch all my reads be wrong this game

 

it's okay though tomorrow i'll just flip them and lynch the wolves

[seph]

Lol people who hate how big this thread is will probably facepalm now.

 

Find us some wolves manbat

[monstrman]

Oh shiz its monstr. Sup?

I hope they take the bait.

I used my most attractive mating call so

 

we'll see

[monstrman]

Lol people who hate how big this thread is will probably facepalm now.

Find us some wolves manbat

they can facepalm in pure ecstasy then as they witness the purity of my trashposts

[ed2funy]

 

 

I feel like this whole game is the boys arguing with themselves.

 

I think tig has a valid point about you guys focusing only on what suits your own narrative. Y'all are writing this game not playing it. Every one else is kinda have a hard time and its not the number off posts. The fun has been totally sucked right out of this game. All the main guy players excepting ed have been total fun suckers. This morning I thought it was going to recover and was hopeful. Nah its just getting worse and I am totally bored.

 

I will finish the game. But yeah imo y'all have ruined shad's really cool flavor game.

 

i like how you only throw the guys under the bus here. sexist imo...lolololol but seriously tho i def disagree here.

 

also even your choice in just guys is not right either, like what has dice lenlo seph done?

 

and while i def dont agree with you leaving the girls out, even if you think its just me for the guys just say.   it.i know the people away from the game that i got worked up by so it hurts a little more when it happens with peeps i like but i said my piece and stand by it and moved forward.

 

youre gonna see that even without players that can or have cause/start/been involved in, players like myself, derf, dpr, theres others tho theyll be offended if i call them out that DM had some bits of drama in prolly 75% of the games we play here.

 

it happens. thats why im not a fan of personal attacks or people doing stuff to deliberately tilt people to start crap and drama.

 

a lot of the time tho even in those games theres like  blow up, then people either get over it in like a few pages or step away for a few hours or overnight and move on and thats that. 

 

its unfortunate you feel that way tho it wasnt involving you directly but hopefully you come back.

 

like me and shad for example, the way we read each other, is like a 20-40 page back and forth....lololololol

 

some people like to insult people by like calling them dumb, some people take it in stride some dont,

 

some people actually enjoy fighting.

 

its the internet and theres many different personalities and some times they clash

 

like nolder has darthe on permanent ignore because he dont like him.

 

thick skin, short memories and the ability to forgive are great mafia and well i guess life skills too.

 

but you have to understand this whole game is basically like an advanced version of guess who for adults with attitudes...lolololol

 

arguing is obv part of it and arguing can pretty easily lead to fighting

 

 

 

 

Soooo, you don't think I'm a guy?  

Rah-ude. I only do drag on Sundays. 

[monstrman]

hey seph in your opinion what makes zander and dpr so clear?

 

the niniel read is obvious

[monstrman]

bear in mind i have the thread awareness of a 6 month old so preferably don't use big words

 

not because i'm 6 because i'm an idiot

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

DPR (1) - Ed

 

Lenlo (2) - Killa, Seph

 

Tig (1) - Zander

 

Not Voting: Dice, DPR, Niniel, Lenlo, Nynaeve, Tigraine, manbat

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm curious as to what other people think about using NAs against TLM like nini did. Good or bad? Pros and cons?

Ive made numerous posts about this and others have commented on it so i dunno what youre looking for?

you want very single person to do it?

if so glgl with that, it only took me 3-4 dl days jsut to get you to say youre town.....lolololololol

and not everyone even did ffs.

I'm not specifically asking about the NA that nini claimed to have used. I mean other actions, like a cop NA or a roleblocker. We had one person killed last night but that doesn't mean that TLM doesn't have a kill. Maybe somebody blocked him or maybe somebody blocked whoever turns in NAs for the wolves. We don't know. So again, what are your thoughts on that?

 

 

these type of questions are what some consider fishing,

 

im not sure if youre familiar with the term or not but just in case its basically when Scum arent sure who the PR's are and are looking for clues to help wiht their NK selections.

 

its generally Scummy AF especially this earlier in the game.  we've already had 2 people claim and if theyre both Town its just poor plays to out themselves here especially when neither had much or any suss on them.

 

 

 

 

So...it started out as good speculation from Tigs, and then it drifted hard into fishing. 

Tigs knows what Fishing is, Zandy. 

[monstrman]

who was it that said that lenlo had no real game related content aside from mechanics

 

i read that somewhere

 

i haven't read lenlo's posts yet which is why i'm not voting him

[monstrman]

 

I think I need to go read a scum game of yours. You seem town here honestly...

I am town.

i am a blueberry

[Shad_]

My neighbor has a pitbull named Blueberry.

[Killashandra]

 

 

I think I need to go read a scum game of yours. You seem town here honestly...

I am town.

i am a blueberry

[ed2funy]

 

Ok so I need to re read from when ed entered to really get a grasp on things here but this is my current thoughts.

 

Town

Dpr

zander

niniel - she is the only one i may tinfoil on I just am having a really hard time seeing her as scum.

 

 

Now I think I touched on ed/killa enough for me not to have to rehash anything, but I want to say ed if you are town I am sorry but I just wasn't seeing anything that showed it imo.

 

So my current thoughts are ed and killa have a good chance to be town.

 

D1-n1 I was pushing ed pretty damn hard. If ed was mafia the darthe kill is weird unless the 100% had a pr. It would have been much more beneficial to kill me, zander, even nyn if he was mafia. Now the mafia in this game should have noticed ed has a very high equity to be the d2 lynch from the thread flow (if town) and killing me or zander loses alot of push as we are the most actice (again kinda working under the assumption zander is town) 

 

So in that sense I think the darthe no info kill was a good target as i also think he had pr equity from how different he was playing.

 

 

 

anyways if ed is town

and I am not wrong on my niniel/killa read the mafia should fall between

 

Nyn

dice

lenlo

sooh

 

tigs ( i need to re read before I narrow this whole list, but hers in particular)

 

[unvote]

 

 

If we look at d1 vote count

 

 

 

 

 

FINAL VOTE COUNT

 

Lenlo (2) - DPR , Niniel

 

Adam (5) - seph, Dice, Killashandra, Zander, Lenlo

 

Ed (3) - Sooh, Nyn, Adam

 

Sooh (1) - Darthe

 

Not Voting: Tigraine, Ed

 

Adam has been lynched.

I hope all my colors worked

with adam and ed green me and dice obv look the worst imo, and lenlo vote like where it was most of d1 didn't really do much.

 

adam stalled at 4 very early on so the wolves either did not vote or pushed elsewhere as to not draw attention

 

 

 

taking my dogs out and I have wow in a few hours but going to try and do some work here.

1. making sure i feel comfy with ed is my 1st goal here,  I just dont see the wolves sacrificing ed like this if he was one, of course how strong he came back makes me feel much better about this

 

 

Seph, not trying to make it seem like I like this just because you're starting to realize I'm Town (read: starting to read the game lol). 

I like this because now you're actually trying to solve the game and figure it out. *nods*

[Zander?]

 

"I take it you heard about the Operator," Ishikawa spoke into the voicecom within the cramped jumble of computers he'd made his office.

 

"Great way to say Hello," the Major replied with her typical monotone sarcasm. "It doesn't make much sense to follow through on a death threat to the Police Superintendent-General with an actual assassination attempt on Section 9. Do you think it was a diversion?"

 

"Could be," Ishikawa replied, "but I found something interesting. The coding style used on the assassin doesn't really match up with the Laughing Man. Doesn't look like his penmanship, if you follow me. But it does seem pretty reminiscent of the Puppet Master."

 

"The unsolved hack on the Foreign Minister's interpreter? What made you dig up that old case?"

 

"It's what I do."

 

"He picked an odd day to resurface. I doubt this was a coincidence."

 

"No, I don't suppose it was. But the only person who should be able to figure out that Section 9 was responsible for the leak about the compromise to the Laughing Man investigation is whoever murdered Yamaguchi. In other words, the same people who'd compromised it."

 

"And the Laughing Man making threats to the head of the Police gives plausible cover for a generic attack on a government security agency. Is that what you're thinking?"

 

"Exactly. The Laughing Man is a sort of beloved anti-hero in the public's eye. If we leaked the attack on us tonight, people would just assume we're embroiled in the same scandal as Daito. I think someone linked with Serano Genomics exploited the Laughing Man's threat to take a free shot at us."

 

"Well if you think they got the Puppet Master on board to do the job for them, then we've got a whole other mess on our hands..."

 

 

The Puppet Master case was a novel if disturbing instance of proxy ghost hacking that had never been solved. It started when the Foreign Minister's interpreter got hacked and attempted to assassinate some government officials. The hack was successfully traced, but at the end of that trail Section 9 found, of all things, a run-of-the-mill garbage man.

 

He had no idea that he was hacking anyone. In fact, he had no idea that he was hacked himself. It was something quite different from a remote takeover of the cyberbrain. He was acting independently with a reprogrammed perception of reality. He'd been fed fake memories of a better life: a wife, a child, a middle class home. It turned out he'd been living as a vagrant in an abandon factory, using random stops on the trash route to distribute malicious software during the day. In his head he was always just making a quick stop on the way home to his imaginary family.

 

 

Twisted, but highly effective. His sources were untraceable--probably living proxies just like himself. Interrogating him was like dividing by zero. If you demonstrated any of the logical contradictions in his reprogrammed world in an attempt to break through to him, he just stared off in confusion.

 

The hacker who accomplished that, whoever he was, came to be known as the Puppet Master. If Ishikawa was right, that same individual might be collaborating with government officials to sabotage the Laughing Man investigation...

 

Does anyone else think recruitment when reading that?!?!!?

 

I wish I knew more about this stupid cartoon ffs.

 

I need to try to find a link to stream this thing to watch it.

 

Zander, well everyone for that matter...what is it that screams scum to you about me? My low posting? Check out my other games...I'm not a high volume poster. To me it is way to easy for scum to piggyback on the ideas of everyone and not have to give an original thought, gives them room to hide. Because I was weary about posting I am town? Can literally no one understand my thought process on that? In THIS game where there are unanswered questions and players! Because on Day 2 I couldn't say one hundred percent without a doubt what way each player went? Because I wouldn't answer your cop/doc/vk question? How it's that question any different from mine in regards to what if any NA's you think should or shouldn't be tried on him? A little hypocritical wouldn't you say? I wasn't asking people to tell me which NAs they had I was asking for advice. And nobody wants to point out thay I'm right except Killa and Seph dared to agree with one of my reads becauae you have seemed me as scum so everyone skims my posts just to see if their name is in it so they can take whatever I say and twist it into your scummy take on me.

 

It's not necessary to post 3000 times a game to be a good player. Quality not quantity. I'm the first to admit that my posts haven't been quality, like I said, seph had the nerve to like my read on Dice and sooh had the nerve to like my read on her....HOW DARE THEY?!?!?

 

My inactivity at the beginning was something that couldnt be helped, I have apologized and that's all I can do. So then I try to start reading people and my dumbself decided to quickly ISO on everyone starting at the top of the players list on OP. Just so happens they were low posters so I was met with scorn for my reads on them and because I was trying to hurry and get something in here to show you all that I was here and I was trying I didn't take the time to go copy and paste the link address to the notepad, type what I thought on that post, comeback for the next post and so on. So then I try to give better reads on the next couple but again I'm not posting 300 posts a day an I'm not engaging in YOUR fishing expedition so I must be scum. Well I'm not.

 

I mean your volume level D1 was awful mainly becaus you had jack for content there people who's Meta as both alignments is low posting which is what it is.  But when you have a low post and dont have any content or contribute then THATS an issue NOT just low volume.

 

It seems like you only picked it up AFTER you started getting sussed.  And even then most of your "catch up" posts were BARE MINIMUM ISO of like 2-3 small sentences and even then you were fence sitting on MOST of the reads you gave.

 

The not posting I am Town is Scummy AF, youre Wincon thing was awful because you think if I was Scum i got win the game completely solo for my team!??!!?  It makes 0 sense.  That would make Shad the most Bastardized PoS Mod ever, like come on now really?  And even if you tried to say I was 3rd, well besides SK majority of 3rd roles can win WITH either team so again awful thinking.

 

COP/DOC/VIG is very different then your question because theres MULTIPLE roles given for you to choose from, its also great for if the person is getting run up and claims and say for example was the cop/doc and they claim it makes it a little more believable when asked wha they did each night.  It also can be something to see if peoples reads/progressions make sense for just a couple ideas but even MORE importantly if the person who actually has the role is uncertain in their reads and or uncertain on who to use their PR on it can help them choose either by picking from someone they think or know is Town (ie Cop peeks player x town n1 and is trying to pick someone for n2, they know the person they picked is Town and not trying to deceive them or can go with a majority/consensus) also if like say 4-5 peeps picked the same person for the same role then they can try going that route.

 

And again nobodies asking you for 3000 believe me I know because IM IN THE GAME aand I post way too much as is....lololololol.  And people get rl stuff comes up and things happen.  But unfortunately in life you have to play the hand your dealt the best you can.  Its a game of lying and deceit so thats something we all have to factor in.  Unfortunately with your start you dug a deep hole and youre game play since at least from my PoV has done much of anything to help you dig out.

[monstrman]

i'm sort of lazily half isoing trying to get a feel for players but i don't generally think my reads are reliable unless i can interact with players

[monstrman]

zander tigraine was an easy target as a wolf last game tho

 

i mean, i havent read her posts but it makes me hesitate