[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

seph · May 9, 2017

I am literally to excited to sleep... going to find that dice post

Shad_ · May 9, 2017

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

DPR (2) - Dice, Seph

Dice (2) - DPR, Nynaeve

Not Voting: Killashandra, ed2funy, Tig

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

This is LYLO. Votes will be locked in place once cast.

DPR · May 9, 2017

Im torn between slapping you silly and being impressed if you're faking this

I am not faking anything, and I pray that im not wrong.

I promise you I have more wim than anyone right now. I was literally crushed earlier in regards to zander but I am going to do everything to bring it home for him, or burn in a blaze of glory trying.

You continue to defy all logic and now you're going to win one for the Gipper. I'm pretty sure that dragging all of the feels back into the game is not necessary. Die snake.

seph · May 9, 2017

Im torn between slapping you silly and being impressed if you're faking this

I am not faking anything, and I pray that im not wrong.

I promise you I have more wim than anyone right now. I was literally crushed earlier in regards to zander but I am going to do everything to bring it home for him, or burn in a blaze of glory trying.

You continue to defy all logic and now you're going to win one for the Gipper. I'm pretty sure that dragging all of the feels back into the game is not necessary. Die snake.

please tell me what logic I am defying?

DPR · May 9, 2017

Tigs' peeks on N1 and N2 had results. N3 didnt. The whole no result N3 coupled with not being able to hack TLM raises questions. DPR is in the TLM qt as well so its POSSIBLE for more than one player to hack it. Dice claims an unsuccesful hack on TLM. Which doesn't really make sense to me. Cause i know for a FACT that it's not limited to just one player. Like dude is in there.

In Tigs case, both her actions yielded no results. No peek result could be cause she peeked TLM but then why didn't she get an in to the TLM qt? I want to look into that action priority wiki page to check. I still think she might have been roleblocked but im just not sure if it would work on hacking. If it does, then why wait till n3 to block her? Those results were going somewhere. No scum team is that moronic. Even if they were worried about protection, rb works just as well.

If i recall she had ed and dice as top scum on D3. She had already peeked Ed at that point. Could come across like that was her general direction.

@Tig how obvious would you say you've been d2 irt who you eventually chose to peek? Ie Ed. Did you have ed as your top scum read too at the time?

ok so you said you can see both which confuses me....

NO scum team would let a cop have a free peek. if there was a roleblock its always used on n2 especially in case of a doctor.

no n2 rb, would mean a n3 rb makes 0 sense there

Could be an every other night thing. Easy to see that.

DPR · May 9, 2017

TLM is not a player so I guess if he had a alignment would be up in the air? I would guess no, but thats just speculation

You and I have already discussed this - TLM is not a player in the game, doesn't count toward the vote and does not have an alignment. You're just throwing junk on the thread.

seph · May 9, 2017

Roll how is that easy to see? I literally have 0 idea what the scum pr would be.

With 6 hackers

A cop

And X2 tracker

A x1 actually makes 0 sense. I'm not that good at balancing games but no, not even with a gf does that make sense

seph · May 9, 2017

TLM is not a player so I guess if he had a alignment would be up in the air? I would guess no, but thats just speculation

You and I have already discussed this - TLM is not a player in the game, doesn't count toward the vote and does not have an alignment. You're just throwing junk on the thread.

Then this literally discredits nyns claim about tlm and her talking about tigs not getting a read off tlm.

I am literally throwing out facts and what has happened.

You keep speculating on why tigs did not get role blocked n2. And trying to come up for reasons why she would be n3

seph · May 9, 2017

It was plain and simple in response to nyn, I'm not throwing anything out unless I believe it to be true.

DPR · May 9, 2017

100% serious here the mafia has has has to be dpr killa nyn

Before I posted about dice, i was your top town pick.

As soon as I pointed out he has no hacks to prove he's a hacker, you flip.

Now you add me in with Nyn, who is exactly one of two players bringing the information about TLM - me being the other player, who is confirmed town.

And you completely abandon your vote on Killa who yesterday you said "I won't be voting anywhere else tomorrow".

Again, because I pointed out the information about TLM and voted dice - because he claimed hacker and has no freaking hacks.

This is exactly how scum plays when they are about to go down.

seph · May 9, 2017

You all take to long to post. I'll try to sleep but I'll moat likely be here as I check every 5 secs

DPR · May 9, 2017

TLM is not a player so I guess if he had a alignment would be up in the air? I would guess no, but thats just speculation

You and I have already discussed this - TLM is not a player in the game, doesn't count toward the vote and does not have an alignment. You're just throwing junk on the thread.

Then this literally discredits nyns claim about tlm and her talking about tigs not getting a read off tlm.

I am literally throwing out facts and what has happened.

You keep speculating on why tigs did not get role blocked n2. And trying to come up for reasons why she would be n3

No, try again.

Tags did not get role blocked N2 - we have ed's result to prove that.

I'm pointing out how you are wrong - and ignoring common sense logic - by saying that's impossible.

You're trying to sweep the role block possibility under the rug. I'm games solving by proving that your points are paper thin and that as a player, you know that and are smarter than that. You're just squirming.

The PoE is what it is.

DPR · May 9, 2017

You all take to long to post. I'll try to sleep but I'll moat likely be here as I check every 5 secs

We're not as nervous or in a hurry as you seem to be :P

seph · May 9, 2017

1. I never commented on this and you keep bringing it up. How does who he chose to hack have anything to do with why I'm voting you? You so realize nyn is the exact same and didn't claim until day 3but you only care about dice.

Actually I'm not bringing nyn in with you.

If

You read it's my game solve as nyn/ed make the most since as the 3rd mafia and giving with how my views are only nyn makes sense.

But yes you both for together imo.

So about my kill vote. I did not abandon it you and dice forced me to play this game when you both voted each other super early.

There is a scum in you and dice me voting and pushing for a kills lynch most likely gets me killed tomorrow if I am right and I do not get to contribute to the you vs dice discussion.

You vs dice is the main priority and like I said only creates tinfoil as the game goes on. Your trying to push a invalid point.

I WANT TO BE APART OF YOU VS DICE. I won't take the chance of not being here

seph · May 9, 2017

TLM is not a player so I guess if he had a alignment would be up in the air? I would guess no, but thats just speculation

You and I have already discussed this - TLM is not a player in the game, doesn't count toward the vote and does not have an alignment. You're just throwing junk on the thread.

Then this literally discredits nyns claim about tlm and her talking about tigs not getting a read off tlm.

I am literally throwing out facts and what has happened.

You keep speculating on why tigs did not get role blocked n2. And trying to come up for reasons why she would be n3

No, try again.

Tags did not get role blocked N2 - we have ed's result to prove that.

I'm pointing out how you are wrong - and ignoring common sense logic - by saying that's impossible.

You're trying to sweep the role block possibility under the rug. I'm games solving by proving that your points are paper thin and that as a player, you know that and are smarter than that. You're just squirming.

The PoE is what it is.

As I say above... rigs did not get role blocked night 2 so it would not make sense for her to get role blocked n3....

If they had a rb, they would use it n2 as to prevent a peek.... it's pretty simple

And at least 3 times you have try to come up with ways to spec her being blocked n3 lol.

I'm not trying to sweep it under you just keep trying to make up scenarios where a scum team does not use a rb on a cop night 2. Right after they claim when they would be the most worried about doc protection.

And instead use it night 3. Really tell me how in the world this makes sense

seph · May 9, 2017

Your just repeating old stuff over and over and trying to find a new spin for it. I'm done and going to bed

DPR · May 9, 2017

1. I never commented on this and you keep bringing it up. How does who he chose to hack have anything to do with why I'm voting you? You so realize nyn is the exact same and didn't claim until day 3but you only care about dice.

Nyn has proven results. dice doesn't. You don't want it to be true but it just is. Say it with me... 3 claimed hacking attempts. O hacks. And you're defending him.

Actually I'm not bringing nyn in with you.

If

You read it's my game solve as nyn/ed make the most since as the 3rd mafia and giving with how my views are only nyn makes sense.

But yes you both for together imo.

???

So about my kill vote. I did not abandon it you and dice forced me to play this game when you both voted each other super early.

Not true. Nobody forced you to do anything. You could have easily voted Killa and made it a 3 way race. Majority wins. You saying otherwise is just nonsense.

There is a scum in you and dice me voting and pushing for a kills lynch most likely gets me killed tomorrow if I am right and I do not get to contribute to the you vs dice discussion.

???

You vs dice is the main priority and like I said only creates tinfoil as the game goes on. Your trying to push a invalid point.

Not true. You made it an inevitability when you voted dice. You. You obviously have strong feelings about it, which is fascinating since you've had him for scum all game - which would have worked out pretty nicely for you if he had flipped scum.

I WANT TO BE APART OF YOU VS DICE. I won't take the chance of not being here

No sh*t.

DPR · May 9, 2017

TLM is not a player so I guess if he had a alignment would be up in the air? I would guess no, but thats just speculation

You and I have already discussed this - TLM is not a player in the game, doesn't count toward the vote and does not have an alignment. You're just throwing junk on the thread.

Then this literally discredits nyns claim about tlm and her talking about tigs not getting a read off tlm.

I am literally throwing out facts and what has happened.

You keep speculating on why tigs did not get role blocked n2. And trying to come up for reasons why she would be n3

No, try again.

Tags did not get role blocked N2 - we have ed's result to prove that.

I'm pointing out how you are wrong - and ignoring common sense logic - by saying that's impossible.

You're trying to sweep the role block possibility under the rug. I'm games solving by proving that your points are paper thin and that as a player, you know that and are smarter than that. You're just squirming.

The PoE is what it is.

As I say above... rigs did not get role blocked night 2 so it would not make sense for her to get role blocked n3....

If they had a rb, they would use it n2 as to prevent a peek.... it's pretty simple

And at least 3 times you have try to come up with ways to spec her being blocked n3 lol.

I'm not trying to sweep it under you just keep trying to make up scenarios where a scum team does not use a rb on a cop night 2. Right after they claim when they would be the most worried about doc protection.

And instead use it night 3. Really tell me how in the world this makes sense

WHAT???

I've supported Tigs claim throughout - she's the uncontested cop. You keep trying to drag her into this and it keeps looking like you're just trying to drag her into this.

There are a lot of reasons why things happened - and town doesn't f'ing know them, does it? I pointed out a simple answer to a BS point you keep saying makes your case - you have no case! It could have been a 2x - it could have been an every other night - who cares?!?! The thing is, it could happen and you constantly trying to draw everyone's attention away from N3 is slimy as hell!

we don't know why she didn't get into TLM last night. I suggested she might try again tonight - that could be informative, no? Especially if we lynch the guy who acted like a nut in the QT with her and has no proof of his claims!

Tell us more gametheory - I'm sure that's going to help lots. LOL

seph · May 9, 2017

I have never said you didn't support tigs theory... but you keep trying to come up with scenarios a rb will happen.

I'm just saying it's extremely unlikely with the n2 peek going off.

Your right we don't know why she didn't get in.

But I know she is town and someone hs the same result as her. And two people have different ones.

ed2funy · May 9, 2017

My thoughts are gonna be all over the place; hope they're clear.

Mod announcement

All players:

Read the rules on page 1 and type R&U when this has been accomplished.

R & U

First, can I just say I love this game? Honestly truly, I do. I'm confused, I feel the trap springing around us, and I'm tinfoiling everything so hard right now.

Shad, love ya bae. Whether this game is a win or lose, thanks for Modding it! :wub:

Usually at work I can't post too much and it's forever to get thoughts out. I've been trying to type this post for like fifteen minutes now. Might be time for a poop break! :laugh: Kidding, having a pre-poo break by taking a quick lunch break so I can read up and post. I keep updating this section with where I'm at. Didn't have time to finish during lunch (ate at my desk), nor at poop time (too many posts).

Killa, lolcatting at this point in the game is bad. You're ether scum for it and don't care because the thread is moving in the direction you want or you're giving up and it ruins the spirit of the game. UNTIL THE END! *rally cry*

Can we get everyone to add their claimed roles and repeat what info they got or didn't get? Also, check to see what I'm missing from before. Thanks.

1. Darthe - Yamaguchi, Town Vanilla Human - Killed N1

2. ~~Sooh~~ manbat - Aoi, Town Hacker - Killed N2

7. Niniel - Togusa, Town Human 2x Tracker - Lynched D3

8. Lenlo - Paz, Town Vanilla Cyborg - Lynched D2

10. ~~Zander~~ Cass - Azuma, Town Vanilla Human - Killed N3

13. Adam - Operator, Town Vanilla Cyborg - Lynched D1

14. Laughing Man

11. ed2funy, Borma, Hacker - N1: Killa with no result; N2: Holster; N3: Seph with a link to a QT, I could tell there were voices in his head (hoping that's up to par with getting divinations from God himself and not quoting anyone in particular... gonna stop referring that whole PM)

12. Tigraine, Hacker & Amnesiac Cop

9. Nynaeve, Maven, Hacker

4. seph

6. DPR

5. Killashandra

3. Dice

---------

Reading back up after reading through all the posts on the DPR/Seph Q.

Y'all saying you're in the scenes to clear yourselves. LOLOLOL who even reads those?

There is scum in tigs and dice and since tlm has tigs peeks it's dice imo.

This is probably the post that is gonna do you and Dice in for me. How are you going to suss the damn Cop on Lylo?! Speculating about Roleblocks and Hacks and TLM is fine, but seriously... This felt like some convoluted attempt to lay ground work to counter the Cop this late.

@DPR, I didn't say I assumed there was a GF. I said assuming you *could* be one. I.e. If there's one. It just means more room to tinfoil.

Dice, why are you pushing that only Nyn can hack TLM? I'm going to try tonight, because I think that's just you trying to play the town. Why are you so special of a Hacker?

chance on nyn dpr tig scum team?

^ Here comes Seph with sussing Tigs again! WHO DOES THIS?!

she had too many details. cant be scum. same with ed

Yeah, see. This is where I had a problem with you before. This feels like sheeping. You came in after the fact and said you could corroborate that and it made us Town. Which would make others think you are.

I can totally see what DPR is saying about Dice not actually being a Hacker. He told Tigs to, blocked her, and "hacked" TLM with no result. Dang it, Bobby.

Getting busy at work so can't quote posts and put as many up just yet. But based off of their QT and current thread activities, I'm honestly seeing DPR as a desperate Townie, not a desperate scum. He's too careful as a player to get into a situation like this.

Dammit, I keep trying to skim but this is good and I keep having to actually do work. Stahp

Dice/Seph/Killa

Over DPR/Nyn/Killa

DPR, idk how the hell you let Seph play you so hard on a QT and in game.

For better or worse. If I lose this game for us because I voted wrong, I'll apologize. But damn, this feels run. And right.

[v]Dice[/v] remind me watch you more carefully next game.

DPR · May 9, 2017

I have never said you didn't support tigs theory... but you keep trying to come up with scenarios a rb will happen.

I'm just saying it's extremely unlikely with the n2 peek going off.

Your right we don't know why she didn't get in.

But I know she is town and someone hs the same result as her. And two people have different ones.

And you continue to ignore a very plausible reason why.

dice ins't a hacker - and we know this because out of 3 tries, it just never happens for him.

and

Mafia commonly have a Role blocker. We had a Tracker - doesn't seem so far fetched.

But you are doing your damnedest to throw shade on the two people that can prove their claims, have brought important info to the game, and I'm freaking confirmed town.

It's insane that you don't want to go the most logic conclusion - unless you're mafia. Then it all makes sense.

Shad_ · May 9, 2017

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

DPR (2) - Dice, Seph

Dice (3) - DPR, Nynaeve, Ed

Not Voting: Killashandra, Tig

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

This is LYLO. Votes will be locked in place once cast.

dicetosser1 · May 9, 2017

i mean ed can tell us if I was protecting dice, he is in the qt where I posted my thoughts about him lol. You protected him most of the game, or fence sat about him until dice niniel comments.

I'm reading dice's posts but I don't understand what's talking about! Boyo has gone off the deep end on this one.

Niniel is gonna flip scum and dice is next.

here is your dice and niniel post where you were linking them and when niniel flips town you do nothing but dig after dice. You never tried to review him or consider you could have been wrong. you spent the whole time painting a red bullseye imo

I've been vocal about seeing dice as town all game. Then he pulled his vote off of Niniel for no reason, asked me to trust him and had to buy himself some time to think. He looked bad after that.

I find it amazing that you don't post any of my quotes where I say i think you were right about dice being scum. Why don't you dig those up? I'd post the whole damn thread if that was allowed - which is why I suggested doing it! ed can confirm that as well.

first off i wasnt buying time to think i simply said i wanted to wait to discuss that. not everyone had come into the game

and i had ALREADY told tigs i wasnt claiming hacker yet on purpose. that pretty clearly points to im laying a trap.

dpr if I was scum with dice and you were town, WHY would I set him up in the qt with you were i could lynch him to just defend him? lynching dice and gaining favor with you would be the easiest way to win since we are literally the loudest two players.

ed and tigs please follow me and dice here, I really want to turn this thing around and win.

Tigs you did not get a qt when you viewed TLM as did dice, how does it make sense that 2 others got results? something is obviously fishy here, and if they had a roleblock they would have used it night 2 when you viewed ed.

If somehow they did rb you night 2 and 3 then I am completely wrong here and we already lost regardless of what you do.

I don't know! But whatever scum has been doing is working pretty well so far, so if you're town, I don't think defending your play is such a great idea.

I screwed up on Niniel. I pushed and I was wrong. I've owned it.

TOWN HAS NOT LOST YET. Stop saying that.

Tags got hack results - she has a QT with dice, who acted like a complete weirdo about it! Tags also named her peeks and they are there, just like she said, confirmed by 2 players. She is the last player in question now.

dice is not a hacker and mafia roleblocked Tigs from TLM. Nice and simple explanation. It's not exactly like she wasn't hinting, which is why I tried to draw the NK to me and told her to be carfeful.

This is all kinds of frustrating.

I hacked Tigs remember? she hacked me as well but i DO have a result.

and my other results are the same as Eds and tigs

@ dpr.

again.. im literally repeating myself

1. If scum had a roleblock they would have used it night 2 when she viewed ed. It makes 0 sense to know who the cop is and not rb them if you have it.

Niniel had a 2x tracker. They might have a 2x role block. The simple explanation is usually the best. But you want to avoid that at all costs.

Blue.

except that BOTH ninel and Tigs got 2 results and ninel was outted D1 and tigs D2 iirc? but neither got roleblocked then? PUHLEASE! thats such a load of crud

[V]dice[/v]

Even if im right, we're still losing this game imo. Loltown.

youre wrong

My thoughts are gonna be all over the place; hope they're clear.

Mod announcement

All players:

Read the rules on page 1 and type R&U when this has been accomplished.

R & U

First, can I just say I love this game? Honestly truly, I do. I'm confused, I feel the trap springing around us, and I'm tinfoiling everything so hard right now.

Shad, love ya bae. Whether this game is a win or lose, thanks for Modding it!

Usually at work I can't post too much and it's forever to get thoughts out. I've been trying to type this post for like fifteen minutes now. Might be time for a poop break! Kidding, having a pre-poo break by taking a quick lunch break so I can read up and post. I keep updating this section with where I'm at. Didn't have time to finish during lunch (ate at my desk), nor at poop time (too many posts).

Killa, lolcatting at this point in the game is bad. You're ether scum for it and don't care because the thread is moving in the direction you want or you're giving up and it ruins the spirit of the game. UNTIL THE END! *rally cry*

Can we get everyone to add their claimed roles and repeat what info they got or didn't get? Also, check to see what I'm missing from before. Thanks.

1. Darthe - Yamaguchi, Town Vanilla Human - Killed N1

2. ~~Sooh~~ manbat - Aoi, Town Hacker - Killed N2

7. Niniel - Togusa, Town Human 2x Tracker - Lynched D3

8. Lenlo - Paz, Town Vanilla Cyborg - Lynched D2

10. ~~Zander~~ Cass - Azuma, Town Vanilla Human - Killed N3

13. Adam - Operator, Town Vanilla Cyborg - Lynched D1

14. Laughing Man

11. ed2funy, Borma, Hacker - N1: Killa with no result; N2: Holster; N3: Seph with a link to a QT, I could tell there were voices in his head (hoping that's up to par with getting divinations from God himself and not quoting anyone in particular... gonna stop referring that whole PM)

12. Tigraine, Hacker & Amnesiac Cop

9. Nynaeve, Maven, Hacker

4. seph

6. DPR

5. Killashandra

3. Dice

---------

Reading back up after reading through all the posts on the DPR/Seph Q.

Y'all saying you're in the scenes to clear yourselves. LOLOLOL who even reads those?

There is scum in tigs and dice and since tlm has tigs peeks it's dice imo.
This is probably the post that is gonna do you and Dice in for me. How are you going to suss the damn Cop on Lylo?! Speculating about Roleblocks and Hacks and TLM is fine, but seriously... This felt like some convoluted attempt to lay ground work to counter the Cop this late.

@DPR, I didn't say I assumed there was a GF. I said assuming you *could* be one. I.e. If there's one. It just means more room to tinfoil.

Dice, why are you pushing that only Nyn can hack TLM? I'm going to try tonight, because I think that's just you trying to play the town. Why are you so special of a Hacker?

chance on nyn dpr tig scum team?
^ Here comes Seph with sussing Tigs again! WHO DOES THIS?!

she had too many details. cant be scum. same with ed
Yeah, see. This is where I had a problem with you before. This feels like sheeping. You came in after the fact and said you could corroborate that and it made us Town. Which would make others think you are.

I can totally see what DPR is saying about Dice not actually being a Hacker. He told Tigs to, blocked her, and "hacked" TLM with no result. Dang it, Bobby.

Getting busy at work so can't quote posts and put as many up just yet. But based off of their QT and current thread activities, I'm honestly seeing DPR as a desperate Townie, not a desperate scum. He's too careful as a player to get into a situation like this.

Dammit, I keep trying to skim but this is good and I keep having to actually do work. Stahp

Dice/Seph/Killa

Over DPR/Nyn/Killa

DPR, idk how the hell you let Seph play you so hard on a QT and in game.

For better or worse. If I lose this game for us because I voted wrong, I'll apologize. But damn, this feels run. And right.

[v]Dice[/v] remind me watch you more carefully next game.

im Batou and i hacked Killa no result tigs got a qt and tlm no result

red read my post! SOMEONE has to be able to get tigs results. and either EVERYONE can QT with TLM or only one can. Tigs and i couldnt. so it makes sense for only one being able

blue and u have never seen someone come in and be able to corroborate someone else cause of shared info? cause i have/ and its not like i can corroborate you BEFORE you say that info.

red I told tigs to so that if one of us died wed still get the info

and after reading this post i just realized i think i derfed. Its bloody ed.

dicetosser1 · May 9, 2017

ya know what? ignore that last bit.

been rereading a little and my guts still screaming DPR

let that be a lesson to you mafia peeps dont get disheartened! it makes u doubt

dicetosser1 · May 9, 2017

going to work

killa and tigs NEED TO VOTE DPR!

tigs you need to stop being wrong on me and stop it NOW.

seriously

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