[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Darthe]

im predicting that this wolf team has at least A quiet member.  Easy predict, I know, but i actually like most of the people posting.

[DPR]

when did I miss wifi voting liz/clov?? thats a crazy turnaround from where I thought she was.

 

 

Nope. She's been there for a bit.

[Darthe]

huh, i totally misread where I thought she was headed then.

[Darthe]

in any case, goodnight!  consider voting elsewhere btw, this isn't gonna pan out I dont think.

[dicetosser1]

So dice assuming you are still here. Besides kizzy - where are your thoughts?

 

 

Aaaaaaaaaaannnd *brain implodes* pretty much caught up but if anything I'm more confused. 

 

I want to see Liz and Mrs Clov's direction when they're fully caught up, Vote Tiink doesn't look good for them after Tiink's pop-in earlier imo, and I may have missed it skimming but beyond that addition I don't see their focus having widened much beyond self defence and Darthe.

 

I think it's possible Darthe/NB would arrange a massive bus early on and I have no meta on this for Liz / Mrs Clov but the above shifting to a previously low volume last minute voter is :/

 

Need to check Tiink's actual ISO / probably ISO everyone from here.

 

 

Darthe and DPR's back and forwards about play here made me lol but it also made me ? Darthe's encouraging good Town play in DPR and DPR's plan's not impossible but his tone/theatrical address is funny, but off and I can't decide what I think about Seph, who fought hard and appeared keen after the lynch/early in the day but has kinda fizzled out after the beeline at people (Crusher, Darthe?) out the gate.

 

Halleh popped in, popped out (Hallleeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh where you  at??????)

 

Eldrick's decision to outright ask for Doc protect is weird and not in a good way IMO. 

 

Still can't read WiFi but glad she's putting out reads.

 

 

I need to a) get to work and b) get out of my head. I'll try to think clearer tonight if/when I'm around.

 

 

 

MQ for last couple of things just to annoy Dice.

 

(I get they're a pain but it's hard to chop them down on mobile - feel free to do it when you respond.

 

 

 

 

So basically, Liz/Clov, Seph and Cuth think each others farts smell good and Eldrick follows all of them around like a lost puppy.

 

Cuth is useless - contributes nothing and brags about it. 

Liz/Clov distract the game by dumping volumes and volumes of content, none of which makes sense.

Seph rubber stamps everything Cuth & Liz/Clov say, and they hold him up as the authority on such things.

Eldrick reminds me of a cartoon character - the one that stands behind the boss/leader and says "yeah!" after everything the boss says.

 

At this point, were not even playing the game so much as we're picking sides on the playground. There are baskets full of unanswered, undiscussed details, but we ain't goin' nowhere until half of this game dies off. I'm kickin' up my feet til then.

 

I lol'd and can see the arguments for logic in this post but the bold at the bottom bothers me.

 

@DPR

If you've got a full handle on the game and believe there's a tonne of details that haven't been answered/discussed, why kick back instead of digging further into it and getting more stuff on record?

 

 

LOL at asking me to put more of my opinions on record. 

 

1. That's not what I said - I said 'digging further into it and getting more stuff on record'. The stuff doesn't have to be yours. One of the things I think is bugging me about you is you read so agenda driven. You're only entertaining one possible scenario for yesterday's result and you're pushing it really hard without exploring/considering/entertaining anything else.

 

 

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT: BFG WILL BE REPLACING SPOOF.

 

YEY!!!

 

 

 

Breaking this up cos darn MQs

 

 

Which has been the core of my arguments against Kizzy today - not to be confused with all of my arguments and the vote train against Kizzy yesterday.

 

But Seph says she's cool, so everyone is going with that.

Seriously, you gotta read up.

 

wanna bet? my votes going one of two places today  kizzy clov or eldrick

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here we go - get a load of this:

 

Ok. Had to wait for mod conformation about if I could even talk about it.

 

Last night, presumably at the beginning of night phase, I was to make a choice. I can't go into specifics because of mod communication and whatnot, but suffice to say I'm worried about the result of the choice.

 

Due to the obscure nature of the question, it feels like depending on what I picked, one of us will die. If there's a doc, and they have nothing better to do, I would like protection. I don't trust the outcome of this role, whatever it's doing.

 

If it's result is a kill, I would like to thwart it. It does not feel like a town ability.

 

that's never scum

 

it's also not role-fishing

 

unless the scum team has a watcher or something

 

rolefishing is enticing people to publicly out their roles, which is not the case

 

 

 

And you don't see this as a catalyst to get a Doc to somehow reveal themselves - or to get conversation about roles in general started?

 

You got anything else? 

 

why on earth would the doctor reveal themselves in thread

 

 

They dont have to. it was night. if theyd been stupid enuff to do it and if the mafia had a  watcher then BOOM! doc outted.

 

 

 

 

Btw who is spoof? Also Cass is getting votes soon if she doesn't show

 

I think someone brought him from another site, but I can't remember who or from where. Hoping Cass is okay. :/

 

 

 

Me and Kaylee hit him up.

 

@Darthe hes Spoot  with a t on JN  think hes fairly new there

 

 

@Dice

 

Talk to me about KizzyClov - why are they still scum for you?

Am I wrong in thinking that the Darthe tunnel on them early here is a lot like how he played Eldrick/Sooh in Hackers from the start - in tone and setup/dismissal?

 

And that the interactions with NB here, then little else but KizzyClov criticism and then shifting to NB at the end is sus?

 

And second bold - never go full Zander!

 

 

@Darthe

 

I was clear in the sign up thread I'd be scarce this game, why's it worth a push? 

 

 

 

still dont like the hypocticalness inherent in their vote.

 

Have not liked their tone being SOOO defensive from SO early on,

 

Liz has basically done 3 things  screamed look at them look at them! tunnelled Darthe and said I did things i didnt.

 

oh and argued with DPR so 4.

 

and then i have one burning question in my mind.

 

They were the lead train ALL D1 just about. They very nearly got lynched. 

 

Why was there not even a hint of a claim? Especially if they were as frustrated as they say they are??? With all the pressure on them  wouldnt you just kinda yell at the thread  :"Im the whatever!!  now F off" ??  itd be pretty natural.

 

 

Ok for now, wanna see where they're at when they come back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

feel free to AMA about my posts last night encouraging mafia to kill me

 

some of you expressed concern about how nothing'd been said about that

 

i'm happy to discuss it

 

What was the point?

 

meh

 

i want the wolf team to kill me because i'm VT

 

but rubbing that enough in their face to make them wonder if i'm a power role saying it in a provocative way to avoid being killed because they think I'm a VT

 

because i might be a power role

 

but i said i'm just a vt

 

if nothing else it's not a huge waste of my time and makes the scum team think a little more

 

 

Seems like it'd help scum team more than town.

 

 

depends on how paranoid the players in the scum team are. That post would drive cass crazy. shed HAVE to kill it imo

 

 

Lol! Yes, if I were scum. At the very least have a good hard long look at it in case it were something important. And then kill it ded just in case.

Lucky though odds are 75% of us are NOT Scum and I am 100% sure that I'm Blue... for once :P

 

 

 

 

Oh come on, that posts?

 

DM is eating my MQ replieeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssss

 

thats probably a good thing......for us...

 

 

Bite me, cocky :P

 

 

NOTE for self

 

on page 103

[Eldrick4221]

Where are seph and elcdrick at? I saw cass posting (hi cass! hope you're still here!)

 

Who else is around?

 

Sorry, I'm a little excited

I was sleeping :P

It's my day off.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

What's the case on Tiinker?

 

slapped a vote on liz for no reason

 

has made snarky comments every now and then, little helpful, wasn't on notbob iirc

 

is part of the dpr/crusher-thinky group

DPR/Thinky group? Snarky comments = scum? Well hell then, this game easier than I thought.

 

[v]cloviz[/v]

Care to explain that vote?

 

(Unless you already did and I haven't caught up yet)

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

So then theres no reason beyond "hey wolves might shoot themselves in the foot".

 

Cool, thats a confirmed terrible idea. Can I vote him twice?

incorrect

 

this seems to be an event-type thing/ability rather than a regular 'ol wolf kill or something

 

that has some sort of delayed results under certain circumstances

 

as far as i can tell wolves have no reason to target him tonight in any case, but he might die as a result of a certain ability being used

He might, but why would I base my actions on the chance something happens?? It's just not smart on my part.

 

because there are other wolfy/wolfier people in the game 

 

again it's a sort of compromise in a way

 

i disagree, and i loathe your way of trying to sneak people away from this.  

 

i made a post that was almost exactly the same as this one earlier in the game; talking to you as well iirc

 

we lynched notbob

[Eldrick4221]

Cuth

Eldrick

Seph

Liz

WiFi

 

DPR*

Cass*

 

Kronos

Hallia

Crusher

 

Tinker?

 

Darthe?

 

Dice

 

Roughly ordered

 

I don't have many reasons beyond 'gut' 'vibe' 'feels' which I sort of hate, but /YOLO

Why has dice made it lower than your nulls already?

[Cuth]

 

@eldrick do you have a feeling that something will happen tonight?

I have every expectation that whoever targeted me will target someone again, unless they specifically don't because of this discussion.

 

And I'd really rather stop talking about it. Nothing happened as far as I can tell.

 

okay you're town friendo

 

other people look at this and see that it's town

 

no lynching him ever

[Eldrick4221]

Well its bedtime for me. I don't know what to talk about in next 15 min so I am getting ready early. I will probably not be on for deadline tomorrow as I have bkfst, shower, PT/OT in morning and maybe even into afternoon. I took today off mental health day that being said my vote is still going to stay on liz/clov. as she has the most equity for deep wolf, imo.

And with that, wiffy moves down to wtl.

 

You want to lynch someone because you think they're a deep wolf?

[Cuth]

im predicting that this wolf team has at least A quiet member.  Easy predict, I know, but i actually like most of the people posting.

may i interest you in a tiinker

[Cuth]

 

Cuth

Eldrick

Seph

Liz

WiFi

 

DPR*

Cass*

 

Kronos

Hallia

Crusher

 

Tinker?

 

Darthe?

 

Dice

 

Roughly ordered

 

I don't have many reasons beyond 'gut' 'vibe' 'feels' which I sort of hate, but /YOLO

Why has dice made it lower than your nulls already?

 

she explained it a few posts later

 

fairly well

[Cuth]

Ok, the Dice read in TLDR version...

 

His early vote on Liz is a bad look for Dice because of the (this vote was already coming, therefore isn't an OMGUS vote) because town!Dice doesn't care how his vote looks. He votes Liz and of anybody OMGUSsusses him for it he laughs at them.

 

Far more concerning is that his read on Eldrick is entirely 2 dimensional and his read on Liz/Mrs Clov is stuck from the first 500 posts or so. His focus is very narrow. Town! Dice grabs onto something, but he accounts for new information, there is no sign of Dice doing that this game.

 

 

 

If I have doubts it's because I haven't read the context of his saying Mrs Clov are defensive etc

@darthe

[Cuth]

or eld whatevs

[Eldrick4221]

 

Well its bedtime for me. I don't know what to talk about in next 15 min so I am getting ready early. I will probably not be on for deadline tomorrow as I have bkfst, shower, PT/OT in morning and maybe even into afternoon. I took today off mental health day that being said my vote is still going to stay on liz/clov. as she has the most equity for deep wolf, imo.

*snip*

 

Gonna let BFG handle this one

I noticed BFG commented on it after I posted mine.

I see you wanted to as well :P

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's the case on Tiinker?

slapped a vote on liz for no reason has made snarky comments every now and then, little helpful, wasn't on notbob iirc is part of the dpr/crusher-thinky group

DPR/Thinky group? Snarky comments = scum? Well hell then, this game easier than I thought.[v]cloviz[/v]

hehehehehehe

I missed you today. Waited till you got back to vote you.

Awww, that's sweet pumpkin <3But you realize why that's a tactical error, right? :wink:Seriously, you're making this so much fun :D

It's a labor of love sarsaparilla. I leave tactics to the brainy kids.

Well, given how your team's tactics played out yesterday and today *cough*But okay. I'll explain it to you after Darthe flips.

My team caught scum Day 1 and after we lynch, you Day 2 as well. 2 for 2. Honestly would have liked to just lynch both of you Day 1. Save the bandwidth. You are a dream weaver. I hope some day you come play with me at my board. I got my very own mafia board. It's a bit different than most.

can we not do the whole "team" thing

 

i think it's actively scum-sided

Does he have experience doing that?

 

It was confusing as he'll and a little suspicious.

[Eldrick4221]

That's easy to say.

 

But we'll know more after Darthe flips.

 

Or you can go ahead and try to flip MrsClov and I. It will amount to the same difference in the end.

 

As MrsClov already told you, we play for the long game

This post bugs me.

 

Same difference would imply same alignment.

 

And town wouldn't know that.

[Cuth]

 

That's easy to say.

 

But we'll know more after Darthe flips.

 

Or you can go ahead and try to flip MrsClov and I. It will amount to the same difference in the end.

 

As MrsClov already told you, we play for the long game

This post bugs me.

 

Same difference would imply same alignment.

 

And town wouldn't know that.

 

i know i know i know

 

it boils down to liza does this as any alignment which is regrettable but nai

 

sadly

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Lol, why pocket?

 

well

 

if you were pocketing me

 

it succeeded

 

you're town though so we should be alright

Why do you already have that read?

[Cuth]

w

 

 

 

Lol, why pocket?

well

if you were pocketing me

it succeeded

you're town though so we should be alright

Why do you already have that read?

 

wot

 

with that readslist she's not scum

 

or i'm totally misreading the game

 

complete mindmeld, and i'm generally not too fond of that being used as a way of reading people

[MrsClov]

Hi late night party people.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

@eldrick do you have a feeling that something will happen tonight?

I have every expectation that whoever targeted me will target someone again, unless they specifically don't because of this discussion.

 

And I'd really rather stop talking about it. Nothing happened as far as I can tell.

Okay, this is just the absolute worst kind of fear-mongering and distraction before a vote deadline.

 

You ask me, I figure the game needs to stay focussed on scum-hunting and getting votes in. If I was modding, I'd consider changing the voting setup to eliminate the hybrid hammer just to force people to play.

 

As for Eldlrick, I'm thinking he's lost all credibility with his little stunt, which now looks like he's was trying to pull something off and backed out of it. The fact that Cuth wants to bring it up and fan that flame tells you all you need to know. Disgusting.

No. I agree that we need to focus on scum hunting. That whatever I was targeted with and the resulting discussion because I brought it up has only been a distraction and should be ignored.

[Cuth]

Hi late night party people.

how goes it

[MrsClov]

 

Hi late night party people.

how goes it

 

 

Taking a break from my projects before I lose my mind. 

 

 

On a mafia note. I'm really not sure what to make of Dice just quoting his reads list and not expanding on it. He doesn't seem willing to evolve his reads.