[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

He did?

 

Hmmm....

seriously, Liz woofin

Ugh...quotes

 

If I were you'd never know it

 

What's your read on MrsClov?

i feel very meh about this response

 

and maybe want to lynch it

I'm halfway there bby

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

 

Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz This is DM, home of ZANDER AND CASS - you can let your ENFP fly FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

 

Also, Mrs Clov can keep you in check I'm sure

Okay then...if I get in trouble I'm blaming it all on you

 

[v]Dice[/v]

 

Mmm...that felt good >:)

This bugs me. Not the vote, but the bold.

 

Trying to put responsibility for your actions on someone else, even jokingly, is a reason for suspicion.

Very sterile posts from you compared to last game n. Slight town but I'd say this read is my least faked

Lol dumb phone. Reasoned, not faked

Phones can be stupid. Autocorrect and autofill are out to get us.

 

But still this is a weird correction. The words aren't even similar.

 

When I read the first post, my thought was on how by your read on me being "the least faked" and how that meant your other reads were fake.

 

But it didn't make sense to say that, even if they were fake.

 

...so I buy your "phone being stupid" reasoning.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

NOT AGAIN

 

 

Also I love Cass's impersonation of Zander, it made me laugh

Cass, Crush, Hally all town so far

I could lean town on cass. Very high intensity with some good questions. She fooled me last game I was here i believe so I am talking a bit more caution with her. other two are meh, though I only have played 1 game with crusher, which i doubt he remembers =p

Dont panic, I know my ways

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

 

He did?

 

Hmmm....

 

seriously, Liz woofin

 

 

Ugh...quotes

 

If I were you'd never know it

 

What's your read on MrsClov?

 

Def bad responses. Easy game, gg, no rematch

 

Yes, because I was such an easy read for you the one time I actually played against you as scum.

[Darthe]

 

Oh god plz dont tell me cass and liz are a hydra. I cant deal

Liz and I are the hydra.

Much more manageable read, yall justa woof

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

 

He did?

 

Hmmm....

 

 

seriously, Liz woofin

 

 

Ugh...quotes

 

If I were you'd never know it

 

What's your read on MrsClov?

 

i feel very meh about this response

 

and maybe want to lynch it

 

What's there to feel meh about?

 

it doesn't really line up with your earlier position of calling someone who perceivably omgus'd you out

 

and shoves the accusation into a corner

 

what happened to responding to accusations

 

I am responding to accusations. I'm trying to determine how serious he is about his read on me and forcing him to talk about my hydra partner.

 

no you're not

 

you're responding to his statement that you're scummy and asking him about your partner

 

again, i don't see how this lines up with your perceived stance on dice voting you

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

Sorry, explain to me how me calling Dice out over voting me after I voted him was something minimal? Are you thinking I should have ignored his response? How would you have responded to it instead?

apologies for butting in here, but i would have ignored it

 

if i'm scum i don't really like people talking about me and if i'm town it's unproductive

 

but there i think we agree on the value or lack thereof of an OMGUS as a scumread so /shrug

Okay, so let me get this straight.

 

As town you're not interested in exploring someone's reaction that you perceive to be an overreaction to determine whether their subsequent reaction makes you lean town or scum on them or not?

 

Go back and look at the context of how I wound up putting my vote on dice. Back to my very first post and then my discussions with Cass and Eldrick about it. Then let me know if you actually understand the context and what that vote actually means.

This post just is filled with made up jargon to look like work, when there isn't much there.

[Darthe]

 

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

She calls those alternative facts

I just died inside.... a lot. Ugh.

Lol

[Lizabeth]

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

[seph]

@cass I won't finish my read for a bit, would rather stay involved in current things.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My body is ready. Let's get it on.

Cigars are stinky, though...

But have you ever tried one?

 

Vote Eldrick - he's wound up tighter than my grip on a bottle of whisky. And that's pretty tight.

Yeah. Not wound up at all lol.

 

Hope you survive D1 this time. I really want to play more than a couple days with you and get a feel for you.

What if he's scum?

Tripling (quadding?) Down on liz wolf

Because of that question?

Do you even understand the question?

I do. Im talented in reading comprehension, at or above a 3rd grade level.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

That he's doing it again is so null it's hilarious.

 

A) Huge difference between him doing it last game and this game is this game is closed. We don't even know IF there's a vig.

 

B) Darthe claiming early in general is null by itself.

 

C) He could easily do this again if he rolled scum again as equally as he could as town.

That's interesting from you. I cant decide if I believe you grew, or if its just good rationale.

I have my moments.

Good, relaxed, response

[Darthe]

 

 

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No, you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

this seems aggressive, like you need to put out a fire before you cant handle it.

 

Good to know you two are a hydra though idk if its gonna do anything for you.

Explain how she's being aggressive here?

Nah, it's easy enough for most to see that played last game

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

 

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

 

Sorry, explain to me how me calling Dice out over voting me after I voted him was something minimal? Are you thinking I should have ignored his response? How would you have responded to it instead?

 

apologies for butting in here, but i would have ignored it

 

if i'm scum i don't really like people talking about me and if i'm town it's unproductive

 

but there i think we agree on the value or lack thereof of an OMGUS as a scumread so /shrug

 

Okay, so let me get this straight.

 

As town you're not interested in exploring someone's reaction that you perceive to be an overreaction to determine whether their subsequent reaction makes you lean town or scum on them or not?

 

Go back and look at the context of how I wound up putting my vote on dice. Back to my very first post and then my discussions with Cass and Eldrick about it. Then let me know if you actually understand the context and what that vote actually means.

 

again, this comes down to what we think an omgus applies if it is one

 

all i was saying is that i would not respond to someone voting me, typically, unless they really have something to say

 

most players are town, of those most are likely wrong on d1

 

if you respond to a, once again, perceived omgus by calling the omguser out, that's not exploring someone's reaction

 

you'll either end up talking about yourself which is useless in a way because you know you're town if you're town

 

or you talk about the target and are essentially just omgusing him back AGAIN

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No, you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

 

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

It looks like thats skipping a step or two. Its more,

 

"I wanna vote darthe but will ask my hydra of its ok"

"Ok ima vote dice cause I got pressure for saying the above"

"No I didnt need to confer to vote dice"

"Of course I confer with my hydra before making a vote"

 

Thats how it looks to me at least

How much of that conversation with Cass do you think was serious?

Ooh it wasn't serious. I see.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

 

He did?

 

Hmmm....

 

 

seriously, Liz woofin

 

 

Ugh...quotes

 

If I were you'd never know it

 

What's your read on MrsClov?

 

i feel very meh about this response

 

and maybe want to lynch it

 

What's there to feel meh about?

 

it doesn't really line up with your earlier position of calling someone who perceivably omgus'd you out

 

and shoves the accusation into a corner

 

what happened to responding to accusations

 

I am responding to accusations. I'm trying to determine how serious he is about his read on me and forcing him to talk about my hydra partner.

 

no you're not

 

you're responding to his statement that you're scummy and asking him about your partner

 

again, i don't see how this lines up with your perceived stance on dice voting you

 

Can we agree that there are different ways to go about figuring people out?

 

I've played with Darthe and Darthe before. Darthe and Dice are different players. Darthe may or may not be serious about his read on me, and he might be doing this as town or scum.

 

The way I figure that out is to ask him questions to make him explain himself.

 

Dice is a different player. He's a lot more forthright in how he reacts to things. So the way that I push on him is going to be different from the way I push on Darthe. I'm not a paint by numbers player.

[seph]

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

probably a few out of the 16. more than half of the game has not checked in, and about everyone in the game currently has a bad feeling towards you. we don't need to figure out all the scum on d1. we just need the 1! Right now I have 0 reason to vote anyone over you atm, heck I don't know if i have a read that is below null besides the hydra.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

Sorry, explain to me how me calling Dice out over voting me after I voted him was something minimal? Are you thinking I should have ignored his response? How would you have responded to it instead?

apologies for butting in here, but i would have ignored it

 

if i'm scum i don't really like people talking about me and if i'm town it's unproductive

 

but there i think we agree on the value or lack thereof of an OMGUS as a scumread so /shrug

It might be nothing, but noticing that he talks about "if he's scum" before "if he's town"

 

Not sure why town would prioritize those thoughts like that.

[Cuth]

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

that's unimportant and a silly line of thought to even carry on at this point of the game

 

it's d1 and there are literally 0 flips

 

our goal is to find one scum

 

unless you are saying that you have interacted in a very towny way with every player in the game

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

Not necessarily just Darthe just hey let's discuss before we vote, but otherwise you are correct. As you can see from our vote, we agreed to keep it on Dice.

What did you discuss wrt Darthe?

Good pressuring here, cass is town

i would like to once again iterate that, in my experience, pressuring is not a town read

I'm gonna go ahead and say its situational. Because it is. Here, combined with the other things I posted on her? It adds to her look.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

 

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

 

Sorry, explain to me how me calling Dice out over voting me after I voted him was something minimal? Are you thinking I should have ignored his response? How would you have responded to it instead?

 

apologies for butting in here, but i would have ignored it

 

if i'm scum i don't really like people talking about me and if i'm town it's unproductive

 

but there i think we agree on the value or lack thereof of an OMGUS as a scumread so /shrug

 

Okay, so let me get this straight.

 

As town you're not interested in exploring someone's reaction that you perceive to be an overreaction to determine whether their subsequent reaction makes you lean town or scum on them or not?

 

Go back and look at the context of how I wound up putting my vote on dice. Back to my very first post and then my discussions with Cass and Eldrick about it. Then let me know if you actually understand the context and what that vote actually means.

 

again, this comes down to what we think an omgus applies if it is one

 

all i was saying is that i would not respond to someone voting me, typically, unless they really have something to say

 

most players are town, of those most are likely wrong on d1

 

if you respond to a, once again, perceived omgus by calling the omguser out, that's not exploring someone's reaction

 

you'll either end up talking about yourself which is useless in a way because you know you're town if you're town

 

or you talk about the target and are essentially just omgusing him back AGAIN

 

By me calling it an OMGUS did it not get a reaction out of him? Did people not make reads on Dice based on that reaction?

[Eldrick4221]

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

She calls those alternative facts

No.

 

Please don't use that phrase. It edges on politics, and that can stay out of the game.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz This is DM, home of ZANDER AND CASS - you can let your ENFP fly FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

 

Also, Mrs Clov can keep you in check I'm sure

Okay then...if I get in trouble I'm blaming it all on you

 

[v]Dice[/v]

 

Mmm...that felt good >:)

This bugs me. Not the vote, but the bold.

 

Trying to put responsibility for your actions on someone else, even jokingly, is a reason for suspicion.

Very sterile posts from you compared to last game n. Slight town but I'd say this read is my least faked

Lol dumb phone. Reasoned, not faked

Phones can be stupid. Autocorrect and autofill are out to get us.

 

But still this is a weird correction. The words aren't even similar.

 

When I read the first post, my thought was on how by your read on me being "the least faked" and how that meant your other reads were fake.

 

But it didn't make sense to say that, even if they were fake.

 

...so I buy your "phone being stupid" reasoning.

I choose to not burn you for being pedantic, because it seems to be in your nature. Still, I want you to be aware that it's annoying in the hopes that youll refrain.

 

Also, swype. Faked is real close to reasoned

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No, you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

 

this seems aggressive, like you need to put out a fire before you cant handle it.

 

Good to know you two are a hydra though idk if its gonna do anything for you.

 

Explain how she's being aggressive here?

 

Nah, it's easy enough for most to see that played last game

 

I didn't play the last game. In fact I've never played with her before.

 

Also, I'm guessing that the vast majority of players here didn't play the last game. So humour us.

 

How is she being aggressive?

[Songstress]

[vote]lizabeth[/vote]

 

 

 

[vote]lizabeth[/vote]

lizabethmrsclov

 

 

The vote tags you are looking for is just the letter v  

 

But your intent is clear enough.