[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Darthe]

 

 

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

 

You don't reveal a power role unless needed. Why do you think I focused on you today? I'd rather show a case and not let scum know of my alignment then wake up day two and say "hey this is what I got"

You do when you get a guilty. Which you claimed to do.

 

And you didn't build a case. You barely pushed me. You asked about my read change on darthe.

 

Besides that all you did was say vote me a few times.

 

Yes. You're right. You started by voting me. That doesn't mean much.

So you aren't town then.

 

Got it.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

Please read kronos iso. Come back and tell me if you do, or do not believe him

Done. I don't.

[Darthe]

Ugh... but tink is on this wagon#feelsbadman

Thats your fault, not his. He is being cased afaict on situational crap rather than his content, of which there is little.

 

This far far trumps that.

[Darthe]

 

 

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

Please read kronos iso. Come back and tell me if you do, or do not believe him

Done. I don't.

What was hiss read on nb at eod?

[WolfbrotherKronos]

 

 

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

 

You don't reveal a power role unless needed.  Why do you think I focused on you today? I'd rather show a case and not let scum know of my alignment then wake up day two and say "hey this is what I got"

You do when you get a guilty. Which you claimed to do.

 

And you didn't build a case. You barely pushed me. You asked about my read change on darthe.

 

Besides that all you did was say vote me a few times.

 

Yes. You're right. You started by voting me. That doesn't mean much.

 

 

 

No you don't reveal.  Especially this early in game.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

 

 

And what I'm saying is that if the result was "guilty" that doesn't mean mafia. As in Darthe.

 

 

Truth - but guilty does mean threat to town imo.

 

To answer the question about the MU description - it's in line with what my role is - I'm only that role on odd nights though.

 

Yes, to the first part...

 

The second part, you said you had a guilty not a mafia result on him. Which one was it?

 

 

It was guilty.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

You don't reveal a power role unless needed. Why do you think I focused on you today? I'd rather show a case and not let scum know of my alignment then wake up day two and say "hey this is what I got"

You do when you get a guilty. Which you claimed to do.

And you didn't build a case. You barely pushed me. You asked about my read change on darthe.

Besides that all you did was say vote me a few times.

Yes. You're right. You started by voting me. That doesn't mean much.

So you aren't town then.

Got it.

Huh?

[seph]

It does. I 100% believe kronos he votes eld. +1s a vote of eld. Asks for people to place votes, and his reads reflect that he viewed eld last night.

 

Regardless eldrick it is impossible for town not to follow through on this. Obviously if you flip green kronos lied or his viewing was messed with.

[Lizabeth]

Ugh... but tink is on this wagon#feelsbadman

I'm torn right now, to be honest.

 

I think it's safe to say that Eldrick isn't team mates with Darthe, Tink, Crusher, DPR, Dice, Kronos, or you at this moment. (Not saying that all of these are scum, just saying who he can't be teamed with). I'm pretty sure he can't be teamed with NB. But that doesn't mean that there's not another scum faction.

 

I need BFG :(

[Eldrick4221]

I get confused easily so it's hard to post all my reads especially since I got on with a little over an hour to deadline.

 

I have a town read on DPR and Hallia - speaking honestly though - I always have a town read on Hallia.

 

Tinker I'm leaning scummy.  Jumps in and places votes with little or no explanation.

 

NotBob seems to have a don't care attitude about his train.  I don't like that and it pokes my gut feelings.

 

The LizClov train seem convenient most of the day. I know why they were defending and feel that towards the end they were moving away from that.  Gut feeling doesn't like this train.

 

I've gone back and forth on Eldrick - but the quote from Seph summarizes what I feel now.

 

 

I'd vote Tinker, NotBob, or Eldrick.  I'm okay enough to [v]Not Bob[/v]

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

And what I'm saying is that if the result was "guilty" that doesn't mean mafia. As in Darthe.

 

 

Truth - but guilty does mean threat to town imo.

 

To answer the question about the MU description - it's in line with what my role is - I'm only that role on odd nights though.

 

Yes, to the first part...

 

The second part, you said you had a guilty not a mafia result on him. Which one was it?

 

 

It was guilty.

 

Okay. Thanks.

 

Pondering...

[Lizabeth]

Kronos, did you ever answer my question on Seph, though?

i'm inclined to believe you because I think for you to lie would be suicide right now. And I'm not sure why you would do that as scum just to kill Eldrick.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

You want to find out if I'm town - lynch me and find out.  I have no desire to die today - but if it gives town helpful information then I'm good with it.

 

1. Eldrick is guilty - either mafia or 3rd party

 

2. Eldrick is miller

 

3. I was redirected to someone else - potential knowledge of a non-town power role

[Lizabeth]

I don't like Darthe getting away, though...I feel like his role has to be something really powerful :(

[WolfbrotherKronos]

Kronos, did you ever answer my question on Seph, though?

i'm inclined to believe you because I think for you to lie would be suicide right now. And I'm not sure why you would do that as scum just to kill Eldrick.

 

What was your question on seph a lot has been going on and I'm having trouble keeping track of some things.

[Cass]

 

 

Still a stand off ugh.

 

I hate doing this.

 

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

 

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.

 

You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

 

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[V]kronos

 

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

 

Eldrick, no. You have to vote for Darthe. Don't move your votes around. That's what they want us to do.

 

 

Explain who is they?

 

 

that is true, but el already claimed his power. so could be a redirect etc, but i assume it was a target ability which rules out miller or something that can give a incorrect result? they can't have 2 powers unless like a joat or something correct?

I did no such thing. I was a target of something.

 

I don't have a power. Kronos is lying out his button here.

 

 

Solves that question. 

 

 

 

 

that is true, but el already claimed his power. so could be a redirect etc, but i assume it was a target ability which rules out miller or something that can give a incorrect result? they can't have 2 powers unless like a joat or something correct?

I did no such thing. I was a target of something.

 

I don't have a power. Kronos is lying out his button here.

 

 

Except I'm not - the only way you aren't mafia is if I was redirected to someone else.

 

 

Would that happen if Eldrick was targeted for a delayed kill, or only if he was killed, or only if actively redirected?

 

 

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

 

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

 

This feels weak/constructed. Ignores the option that you keep red peeks closer to the EoD to get more info/find partners.

 

 

Wotness would be such an odd claim to fake with no pressure, and if we were teammates it'd essentially throw away two of us as soon as the claim was confirmed fake.

 

So no to that whole dumb line of manipulation.

 

Unless you then argue that it was redirected. 

 

Ughhhhh

[WolfbrotherKronos]

I don't like Darthe getting away, though...I feel like his role has to be something really powerful :(

 

A darthe lynch isn't going to happen today.

[Darthe]

It does. I 100% believe kronos he votes eld. +1s a vote of eld. Asks for people to place votes, and his reads reflect that he viewed eld last night.

 

Regardless eldrick it is impossible for town not to follow through on this. Obviously if you flip green kronos lied or his viewing was messed with.

And we lynch eld, most likely. He prob gets viewed tonight too. Its all set from this point.

[Lizabeth]

You want to find out if I'm town - lynch me and find out.  I have no desire to die today - but if it gives town helpful information then I'm good with it.

 

1. Eldrick is guilty - either mafia or 3rd party

 

2. Eldrick is miller

 

3. I was redirected to someone else - potential knowledge of a non-town power role

That makes no sense for us to lynch you to find out if you're town. Don't worry. I believe that you are what you say you are.

 

I would be shocked if kaylee and tress included a miller in this game. That's a no-no even at PerC and our mods include some crazy roles :P

 

I am considering option number 3 though.

 

What do you think of the fact that Eldrick helped lynch NB yesterday?

[WolfbrotherKronos]

You want to find out if I'm town - lynch me and find out.  I have no desire to die today - but if it gives town helpful information then I'm good with it.

 

1. Eldrick is guilty - either mafia or 3rd party

 

2. Eldrick is miller

 

3. I was redirected to someone else - potential knowledge of a non-town power role

 

If there are any other ideas let me know.

[Lizabeth]

 

Kronos, did you ever answer my question on Seph, though?

i'm inclined to believe you because I think for you to lie would be suicide right now. And I'm not sure why you would do that as scum just to kill Eldrick.

 

What was your question on seph a lot has been going on and I'm having trouble keeping track of some things.

 

No worries. I'm in the same boat :P

 

I was asking you why you have seph as nullish when he was so instrumental in getting NB lynched on D1.

[Darthe]

We cant assume power misdirection right off though cass, thats so rare.

[Lizabeth]

 

I don't like Darthe getting away, though...I feel like his role has to be something really powerful :(

 

A darthe lynch isn't going to happen today.

 

Maybe not. But he's scum. If we dont' lynch him today we lynch him tomorrow.

[Darthe]

 

You want to find out if I'm town - lynch me and find out. I have no desire to die today - but if it gives town helpful information then I'm good with it.

 

1. Eldrick is guilty - either mafia or 3rd party

 

2. Eldrick is miller

 

3. I was redirected to someone else - potential knowledge of a non-town power role

That makes no sense for us to lynch you to find out if you're town. Don't worry. I believe that you are what you say you are.

 

I would be shocked if kaylee and tress included a miller in this game. That's a no-no even at PerC and our mods include some crazy roles :P

 

I am considering option number 3 though.

 

What do you think of the fact that Eldrick helped lynch NB yesterday?

Miller is a common role here but eldrick didnt claim it when he had the chance.

[Cass]

Bold red text is bold >.< 

 

EBWOP

 

 

 

 

Still a stand off ugh.

I hate doing this.

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.

You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

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[V]kronos[/v]

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

 

Eldrick, no. You have to vote for Darthe. Don't move your votes around. That's what they want us to do.

 

 

Explain who is they?

 

 

that is true, but el already claimed his power. so could be a redirect etc, but i assume it was a target ability which rules out miller or something that can give a incorrect result? they can't have 2 powers unless like a joat or something correct?

I did no such thing. I was a target of something.

I don't have a power. Kronos is lying out his button here.

 

 

Solves that question. 

 

 

 

 

that is true, but el already claimed his power. so could be a redirect etc, but i assume it was a target ability which rules out miller or something that can give a incorrect result? they can't have 2 powers unless like a joat or something correct?

I did no such thing. I was a target of something.

I don't have a power. Kronos is lying out his button here.

 

 

Except I'm not - the only way you aren't mafia is if I was redirected to someone else.

 

 

Would that happen if Eldrick was targeted for a delayed kill, or only if he was killed, or only if actively redirected?

 

 

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.
You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

Guess that teammate is darthe.
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[V]darthe [/v]

 

This feels weak/constructed. Ignores the option that you keep red peeks closer to the EoD to get more info/find partners.

 

 

Wotness would be such an odd claim to fake with no pressure, and if we were teammates it'd essentially throw away two of us as soon as the claim was confirmed fake.

So no to that whole dumb line of manipulation.

 

Unless you then argue that it was redirected. 

 

Ughhhhh