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While I don't think Rand is entirely blameless in his interactions with Lanfear I also don't think he is outright cheating on Egwene. Rand is clearly being groomed and manipulated by Lanfear and we cannot discount that. He has no choice in her visiting him and she is clearly more in power in the dream that him. There is also the fact that while Egwene and Rand got back together out of habit Rand clearly says they have not talked about it. Rand and Egwene's romantic interactions in season 3 are often very awkward, especially the kiss they share in episode 5. In episode 1 when they are discussing Egwene's Arc Adventures they are talking to each other but are filmed in a way to show that neither are really interacting with each other. Rafe said this was an idea from Josha and Maddy. So while they are technically together I think it is also safe to say neither are really committed to it and are only there for much needed support for recent trauma.
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Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Skipp replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
It is certainly Truth that the storyline in the show is going to start to deviate much much more from the books as the show progresses. Or rather parts of the storyline, depending on what they decide to cut, what they decide to rearrange and what they decide to merge. -
Technically Rand cheats on Elayne in the books with Aviendha.
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His thousand yard stare while talking with Egwene gave me that vibe.
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She healed herself with the True Power, as she did in season 2. Some people have wondered why Lanfear was able to hold her own against Moiraine with the Chodan Ball. Well my memory is fuzzy but doesn't Rand mention that using the True power made him as or feel as powerful as when using the Chodan Kal? Lanfear's first attack on Moraine was to separate her from The Sakarnen and then decided to choke her out as the petty B would. But once Moraine had the Sakarnen back in hand Lanfear was on her back foot until she started using the True power.
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Moiraine's oath to Suian, made on the Oathrod, disolved on her death is what I presume the showrunners wanted us to take from the scene.
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2 Aes Sedai were holding Logain at a time, only 3(plus Moiraine) were strong enough to keep up the shield. But yeah, it is not as if Moiraine had access to the most powerful Saidar Sa'angreal to help her shield Sammael. Or other channelers to link with. It also seems she has been toying with the ability to tie off shields since she learned about it.
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As for Perrin wanting to go home, it could easily be a mix of Homesickness, feeling lost after Falme and Ta'varen pull to be honest.
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Quickest way to get to the Two Rivers while also avoiding the eyes of the Shadow that had just attacked them the previous night.
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He was also suffering from the Longing, Perrin did mention in episode 2 that they should have gone to a stedding first." Clearly they were talking about going to a stedding in general as part of their travels.
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I think Maksim dying might be a solid motivator for Alanna's big book plot. Along the same subject I wonder what the plan for Lan is. Will Alanna take that role as well, it seemed to be hinted at in season 1.
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I believe you are correct that there were no Wolves to the rescue in tSR. While Lord Luc may not have been responsible in the show we did see the dead wolves at the Whitecloak camp.
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I don't see them killing Perrin. I do see them killing Rand Memory of Light Spoilers
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I have been wondering what the plan for Maksim actually was. To me at least there was a fair amount of foreshadowing that he would be the one to die in season 3. I thought he was going to turn out to be a dark friend what with the thumb through fore and middle fingers sign along with the weird scene of him staring at his own reflection. We will probably never know for sure though.
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Let me preface this by saying I am a White male from Canada so my perspective is not necessarily needed for this conversation. I have seen this argument/accusation of colourism labeled against the show since the first casting reveal but I don't really see it from my POV. This season the complaints largely seem to be about PoC are being more brutally killed than their white counter parts. The White BA sister during the BA attack in episode 1, head beaten with Leane's Staff, Ispan's death by Moggy in episode 6, thumbs pressed through the face in Tar, and now Valda in episode 7, burned to death. Now historically I think the 2 most gruesome deaths in the series belong to Laila in season 1 and Uno in season 2. And for this season which is more brutal, the White being beaten by Leane or the Brown sister who was cut in half a minute earlier? Is Valda's death worse than Natti Cauthons? Valda we mostly see CGI flames, with Natti we see 2 close ups of her charred corpse in 2 different episodes. Are these intentional or subjective? In season 1 the complaints were that the darker skinned characters were cast as villians, Valda and Padan Fain. Didn't matter that 3 of the e5 were coloured because they were too light skinned. Expect when it did matter that they cast the black man as the who killed their wife. But would it have been better to cast them as Mat, the local thief and troublemaker who betrays their friends? But also ignoring Hammed cast as Loial. I don't really know the answer to any of this. Are these choices intentional or the fault of casting a very diverse cast? I know there have been rumblings of an uproar if they do kill off Moraine and Suian this season as that just reinforces the bury your gays trope. This ignoring all the positive rep show to the LGBTQ community in other couples. I just dunno.
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It does seem to be that the Cauthon girls and Daise Congar were both wilders where as Egwene needed to be taught to channel. Then again the show has not fully distinguished between the 2 and might never do so.
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No Perrin wasn't stabbed with it. We saw Uno and Lord Yakota down but didn't see what actually injured them. Perrin leaves that encounter with no injuries.
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Not even certain she attacked her. She lifted her up. lol
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To be fair we don't know how the Shadar Logoth dagger actually affects Ogier, especially since it was early on and the dagger got more powerful with time. No Ogier are stabbed with the dagger in the books if I recall. The Ogier themselves are very hardy but more importantly they are Alien to this world and may not be affected the same. While the scene would certainly be confusing and I think it could have been shot better it is not some sort of crime against nature.
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Was going to post something similar. Untrained channelers are often shown producing weaves by instinct. Aes Sedai training tends to stamp this out. I really liked the detail of Daise's shield as everytime it got hit it didn't reform. The shield had a bunch of holes in it by the end.
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I will preface this by saying Perrin is my favourite character in the book and his storyline in tSR is possibly my favourite arc throughout the series. When I finished episode 7 this morning I was disappointed. To be fair I was tired from waking up early to watch before work and I was distracted by other things. Through out the day I perused reddit a bit and enjoyed the show only "WoTchers" reaction to the episode. Even the book spoiler threads were generally positive. Well I watched it again this evening and enjoyed it immensely more. Not sure if it was state of mind or what. A few things I wish to comment on; Everything Faile is amazing. Absolutely loved how they wrote her and Perrin in this episode. Loial went out like a badass. Not sure if he will stay dead, in theory he could fall to another platform but I think he will stay dead. I heard from others that Rafe mentioned on the aftershow that they can't just keep collecting characters, some will have to die or be removed. And honestly I think that is a good thing. One of my pet peeves with the series is the lack of losses the side of the Light take until the final book. Perrin and the wolves and slayer. I think they are purposefully stretching out his story beats. So much happens to him in this book and moving Slayer and the wolf dreams till later isn't a bad idea. No idea if that is the plan but I think it is. Perrin turning himself over to the Whitecloaks! I kinda like this. The Whitecloaks have been made more nuanced and competent in the show so I don't mind that they joined in on the fighting. Plus this would give Perrin a story when he was largely absent from the next book. I wonder if it will be more of moving the story beats from later to earlier or be something entirely new. Padan Fain......I have been so curious as to what they have been doing with him. Very different from where he would be in the books. Since they didn't kill him I figure they have some plan for him. I wonder if he next heads to the tower to great Elaida and potentially retrieve the dagger. That is presumably where it is. Potentially begin his Mordeth arc, I could see this as being the plan from the start. Instead of having him be crazy the entire series and ultimately do not much, concentrate that for the back half and maybe have him do something. Valda..... ooooooh thats gotta burn. Nothing of value has been lost lol. I wonder what they plan to do with the person who took him out in the books. Aram, What is the plan? Slow his arc and join Perrin or leaving him in the TR? Finally, Weep for Manetheran....... HOLY JEEBUS, full body chills. Perfect call back.
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I had the idea that you could keep Rosamund in the show by having her become a figment of Rand's Madness. Can you imagine Rand doing something really bad and we see from his point of view, Moiraine sitting and watching and shaking her head. Or having her taunt him at times of wielding the power. etc.... I also thought they would use Alexander Karim int he same way to represent the literally voice of Lews Therin.
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2nd clip Some good ol Daise Congar and Cenn Buie
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Also noticed when Mats admirer approaches Mat with the bracelet Mat pulls out 2 coin pouches and gives him the one he pinched from Thom. He does apologize to Thom but it is freaking hilarious these small details.
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After watching the episode again I only realized this joke. Lanfear: "I am sending him a little surprise, let him handle it. LITTLE surprise....... She sends Sammael. hahahahaha