I still find it amusing people dislike the dragon could be a woman thing so much, it was only tossed in to try and build suspense for the people who had never read the books.

I wouldn't put too much faith in Sony at the moment; they have been causing disaster after disaster lately.

This is probably small potatoes to Sony right now after their "if a country doesn't have PSN they can't play Sony's game" fiasco. Sony is also facing backlash for promoting an all AI generated game, it was poor quality, but this seems to be becoming a more common thing with Sony. Pushing lower quality cheaper made AI stuff over the more expensive titles. Going for short term profit over quality. You can expect this to start happening with movies and Streaming series. Will they ever be 100% all AI? We can at least expect them to go more and more to AI in order to cut costs.

It just costs so much money now for streaming services to make a series. WOT $250 million for rights, + $256 or so million for the first two seasons + season 3 cost. Now put on what it has cost them for ROP + Reacher + Fallout. We have no idea what Sony was asking for to continue WOT. So streaming services depend on new subscriptions to help recover the money. Look at the buzz Stranger Things. Squid Game, or Fallout had after their first seasons. WOT simply never came close. Viewing numbers might have been good but were people subscribing to Prime just to see WOT?

Here would be the issue. If another service did pick it up do you start over with new writers etc? Do you just pick up where it left off with the same people or have new people keep it going? Amazon hasn't said anything so could they be testing the waters to see fan reaction before making an offer to Sony?

Blooper reels are fun, but I never really like when it's people just intentionally messing around, to me that's not a blooper.

Has Amazon officially announced anything yet? I'm sure its cancelled but seems odd Amazon has been silent about it.

Honestly for me HBO seems to do the best for putting out quality. Prime is frustrating for promoting their shows, seems like just one or two get advertised. WOT I rarely saw get pushed. Reacher and ROP seem to be the only two.

There is blame enough for the show not getting renewed, too few episodes a season, poor time management in the episodes, COVID, some bad additions, poor attention to quality like messing up Mats dagger in season 1 and season 2, an actor quitting, poor CGI etc fans too unaccepting of changes, I don't put all the blame all on Rafe, the writers or too hardcore fans. ROP will always have an advantage in that Amazon is pretty limited what they are allowed to use, so they have to make a lot of it up. There is less fan backlash about staying true.

I wonder if we will ever know now.

I will say the show did an amazing job at casting. Season 3 was the best but according to the article "Season 3 ranks 97% on Rotten Tomatoes, up from 86% for Season 2 and 81% for Season 1. "3 was the best but a 97% and season 1 an 81%? The horror of what they did to Mats dagger making it Lightsaber dagger alone should've dropped season 2 way below 86%,

I think a lot comes down to simple money, $250 million for the rights, something like $256 million for the first two seasons. What people forget is for a streaming service viewership might be good but what they need is new subscribers. Not sure Prime has released any of those numbers. If subscribers weren't coming, then Prime would be wanting to pay less for new seasons.

Certain events will happen while what happens between will vary some, since the big push is free will there is going to be some differences. Things such as the amount of years between ages will vary. Certain events will always happen, the DO gets sealed and enough time must pass so the world forgets the DO exists. That will lead to the DO prison will be bored into. A temp patch happens then the final battle. Most of the heroes and forsaken will be different etc. Only a few souls like LTT and Ishy are destined to play a part each time.

As good as the WOT is I do think the biggest issue is not everything lends itself well to being a movie/series. In the book there is a lot you can describe how the power works, inner dialogue, AOL, backstories, heroes of the horn, etc. So much the show simply didn't have time to cover or explain. It could be as good as WOT is that it just was never going to make a good series for TV. My wife never read the series and was totally confused at the end of season 2 why these ghosts were important. Unlike GOT, RJ never made WOT thinking it will be on TV someday.

This isn't about if Rafe and the writers loved WOT or not. What the show suffered from wasn't Rafe not liking it. The CGI was bad, the pacing was poor, too many poor episodes, and too many changes were made that weren't needed. I understand changes were needed to speed things along and give some backstories to people. Season 1 you spend an episode on a warder just to kill him at the end, wasted time. WOT will go down for me as a good, not great series where there isn't a strong desire to watch it again. I just don't think the series could recover from the first two so so seasons. I think episode 8 of season 3 summed things up for me. You had some great moments and seeing the start of Rands madness then gives us Lanfear vs Moiraine dud of a fight where Lanfear flees after having her throat cut. I wonder if Rafe will ever say who the final forsaken was suppose to be.

In the shows defense, COVID killed Tarwin's gap. Rafe even said COVID restrictions made the original idea impossible.

Well guess there is no longer a need to worry.

I cut them some slack for season 1 with COVID. Question is when should we start to worry? The producers have made a lot of mistakes with this series but I also wonder if WOT just doesn't make a good movie/TV show. There is just so much in it that it's hard to explain to an audience. So much back story, inner monologue, side stories etc. RJ never made WOT with it being a TV series in mind.

I wonder if Fallout being renewed for season 3 is a good or bad omen for the WOT. I do worry Amazon might think they can't support WOT, Fallout, and ROP and maybe one needs to go. Fallout is the second most-streamed show on Prime.

Myth Busters did a show on that. They recreated the Obi vs Anakin fight where Obi said he had the high ground. Their tests showed the high ground didn't make a difference,

Exactly, it just seems impossible to enforce. For instance, how would you tariff a movie such as the latest Mission Impossible which is shot in numerous countries including the US?

For Amazon I'm sure cost matters , when you figure what they have spent just for ROP and WOT. They are already into WOT for over $600 million.

From what I have read "It’s not at all clear how such a tariff would be imposed. Films are intellectual property, not goods, so they represent a kind of service that is not currently subject to tariffs. However, the USTR notes that some services can be subject to certain non-tariff trade barriers, such as regulations and tax incentives. Those could disadvantage American filmmaking." I honestly can't see this going very far since the countries could do the same to movies made in the US since many US states such as Georgia offer tax incentives. The movie industry now depends on the foreign market sales.

Seems rather dumb to pay $250 million for something you don't own. I can see why Amazon wouldn't want to pay another $250 million for another 3 seasons then another $250 million in costs to make the show.

I'm curious when viewers should worry. It takes about 1 1/2 years for a season to come out. So even a 6-month delay in getting an agreement means a 2 year wait. How long until some of the actors start looking for new gigs?