I didn't mention your activity?

Emphasis mine.

So how are you going to feel when I flip town? Look into this crystal ball and tell me how your theories hold up then in this assumed future (that I know is reality).

OMGUS. Of course I'd be happy to elucidate. I feel you are grabbing at low hanging fruit. Not damning in itself and perhaps not even AI, but added to your nonchalance about eliminating a town player as necessary collateral, your overplaying the information aspect of my miselimination, it does give me the creeps a bit. Especially as we both know that when mafia, you are the man with the plan from D1. So wolf!Lenlo would be expected to have this kind of plan and given the low activity, low hanging fruit would seem to be the way to go. Not the strongest case ever, no. But then DPR flies in with a passionate and unnecessary defense. Seems a bit over the top. Then the half-hearted inclusion but not really of Dice just pinged me. Plus I'm not big on the wrestling posts. Seems semi-likely to be a tell. I'm also not liking Turin a lot or Ed as Town, and it would be odd that in a few posts the entire team would out themselves. But that is where my thought processes are.

Hmm. This seems suspiciously half-hearted. I'm feeling DPR-Lenlo-Dice wolf team from the last few posts, with the caveat that it would seem strange to hand out that info so easily in a few short posts. So probably not 100% accurate.

Fake indignant gasp! So rude! Lol.

Dude, I have never come across any such thing as QTs but in the three games I have played/read along with they have been one of the top topics of conversation of returning players and it was me that pointed out the newspaper icon on the profile. So I don't think you can really take this piece of information very far.

May have future consequences? That sounds ominous. I'd say do it but feeling a bit nervous about it.

Beano

I'm not worried - as I said I am trying to do damage limitation to town, and maybe even get something good out of making such a target of myself. I'm wrong to think it is not very pro-town to be nonchalant about eliminating a town player? Really? Have to say that is a hard disagree from me there. The information point is I think Lenlo is overplaying it so then the "so what if he isn't mafia" seems more reasonable. Town/mafia we still win - I'd question this reasoning as there is not a lot riding on my flip except if I am mafia. As my tone says nothing for anyone else. Like if people don't like my tone and varying vocabulary, does that make them more likely to be town or mafia? I am totally not making any AtE, I'm just trying to engage Lenlo. And yes I think there are flaws in his reasoning as well but I will fully admit I'm biased there, but the main thing is to get him to fully elucidate his reasoning for all you other guys. But I don't really follow your passionate defense of him. Not sure what I make of that. I my wild conspiracy hat I'd say it would be tying you two together as wolf brothers but seems a bit heavy handed.

I'm just trying to engage you. You are the person that has started my train, and that has a special place in Wagonomics, no? So the more info I get out of you as to why, the more info it will provide when I flip town. I'm not trying to bully you off - as the more info part is what can clear you if you are town. I'm just doing what I can to limit damage after my earlier play so that we either a) can see wolves in my train or b) can clear the townies in my train. Because if people just vote without reasoning there is going to be no way to differentiate. Personally I think there has been an awful lot going on to make a Heavy/Marsh wtl list a little simplistic, and apparently chosen to have an easy out when it turns to a miselimination. Though of course I would be biased there. And all these accusations of using a thesaurus, it is hurtful, people,lol.

I get your point in that we need to eliminate someone, but I don't quite agree with your nonchalance. Though I obviously am in agreement that there is no one that is stand out acting like a wolf though. I am interested in your claim that my flip will tell anyone anything. In the counterfactual world where I flip mafia, everyone can say yeah, you could see it in his inconsistent tone. First time wolf, couldn't cope. What else would it tell you? And in this world where I flip town, everyone will see, hmm, his tone didn't mean he was mafia. And what else? So far as I can see my flip either way implicates no one and clears no one so pushing for my elimination is purely about me and nothing about anyone else. In my view of course. Whereas someone wanting to start trains on the lowest hanging fruit without really caring if they are mafia or not seems a tiny bit wolfy. But you are definitely right there are scarce pickings at the moment, but I cannot help but feel you are overplayjng the information from the flip argument.

Should you not post a bit reasoning than that if you don't want to be accused of going after low hanging fruit? Should I be eliminated and then assuredly flip town it will help us if you make your reasons for voting for me as clear as possible.

Fop

It was random as it occurred to me, sorry for the lack of organisation.

I get that but muddying the waters with t/'t violence is also not helpful. Also making sketchy cases against players seems an incredibly wolfy thing to do and seems like there is a high chance of backfiring. How then is anyone meant to find the wolves if town are carrying out wolf tactics? I have to stay in the comfort zone of my own abilities, I feel like I have damaged town's chances enough today with lashing out randomly at people with sketchy reasoning. Not only would I be likely eliminated by my flip would tell no one anything.

My reads haven't changed since the last list except you are now a mafia lean. I'm sure you can look back for that post just as well as I can.

I mean your interaction stood out. I don't see it standing out to other players makes it less remarkable.

Because pinning the tail on the donkey would start/add to a train that both Town and Mafia will make use of. I've seen the mess it makes for town when there are no wolves under suspicion on D1 - it makes nearly the whole day NAI. So I'm hoping that someone will ping me and my vote can be placed more usefully. Just like Turin just pinged me, though not sure if it is enough to earn my vote. Without a strong read I've got a much better chance of getting a town with a random vote than wolf. I don't see how that helps at this point. Waiting for things to heat up a bit and see if any of the wolves are going to implement a cunning plan.

I think if you take it in the context of me sussing Turin for being nice, helpful and supportive my tone makes sense. Though of course I would say that - but I think it is very different for sussing him for making contradictory statements or whatever. I find it a little but strange that you sussing Turin for a post I also found wolfy, and then sussing me for not sussing enough. It seems a little contrived but I guess with so little content so far all reads are going to feel a little contrived. Still, feels like you are going out your way to generate some suspicion.

I know you are not pushing me, that is what I mean. It is harsh to sus someone for being nice, and as I say I don't think this is a definite tell which means you are certainly mafia, but it seems you are more likely to butter me up as mafia than town. As I said I normally wouldn't say anything at this point and see how it plays out, but given the circumstances I thought I should share this before I possibly cannot.

Nope

Elegant

This is a sus post. Turin knows I'm sus of people that push me, and knows I'm partial to people saying nice things about me (as I stressed that all last game). This feels too nice, too chummy. That said I don't think it is a smoking gun and normally I would wait and see how this develops but as I am such a high person of interest on most people's lists I thought I'd put it out there now incase I don't have time to later. Certainly puts Turin for me on a mafia lean.

Just slept for most of the past 36 hours and still slept in till 11. I was dreading the catch up but it was less than expected, lol. So I'd apologise for slanking but it seems unnecessary. Autocorrect wanted me to apologise for spanking, not sure what it knows that I don't. Not liking how everybody seems plausibly town. I'd expect Turin if town to be more active and town-cheerleading, but he is not doing anything suspicious. Ithi seems a bit too critical of everything. Nyn has been posting a lot and asking questions but not overly solving. Key seems the most straightforward townie doing townie things. Dice was making jokes(!) being grumpy and making out of game references. The jokes is a new one for me, grumpy is NAI and the wrestling posts are a tell possibly of mafia distraction tactics? Marsh sounds plausible but not sure I like his logic yet he hasn't used it in anger yet so difficult to have an opinion. Ed seems to have posted nothing but fluff. DPR and Verb seem to be having something of a love in without noticibly contributing. But is it a town love affair or a mafia one? Lenlo, Rand and Tig no read on. So not being much help, I'm afraid, even after my herculean sleep. I'd say run up Dice, but in my experience Dice reacts in exactly the same way to being voted for in both alignments. Maybe Ed to see which way he jumps? But I'm loath to vote at random, however I have little else to go at this point and DL is rapidly approaching. Regarding my "change" in style, from my pov, I still just posting the way I always do. *shrugs* not really a lot I can say to reassure anyone on that score. I still stand by that voting for someone for saying nothing when everyone else is making joke votes and posting memes seems unfair, but there we are.