I'm just trying to engage you. You are the person that has started my train, and that has a special place in Wagonomics, no? So the more info I get out of you as to why, the more info it will provide when I flip town. I'm not trying to bully you off - as the more info part is what can clear you if you are town. I'm just doing what I can to limit damage after my earlier play so that we either a) can see wolves in my train or b) can clear the townies in my train. Because if people just vote without reasoning there is going to be no way to differentiate. Personally I think there has been an awful lot going on to make a Heavy/Marsh wtl list a little simplistic, and apparently chosen to have an easy out when it turns to a miselimination. Though of course I would be biased there. And all these accusations of using a thesaurus, it is hurtful, people,lol.

I get your point in that we need to eliminate someone, but I don't quite agree with your nonchalance. Though I obviously am in agreement that there is no one that is stand out acting like a wolf though. I am interested in your claim that my flip will tell anyone anything. In the counterfactual world where I flip mafia, everyone can say yeah, you could see it in his inconsistent tone. First time wolf, couldn't cope. What else would it tell you? And in this world where I flip town, everyone will see, hmm, his tone didn't mean he was mafia. And what else? So far as I can see my flip either way implicates no one and clears no one so pushing for my elimination is purely about me and nothing about anyone else. In my view of course. Whereas someone wanting to start trains on the lowest hanging fruit without really caring if they are mafia or not seems a tiny bit wolfy. But you are definitely right there are scarce pickings at the moment, but I cannot help but feel you are overplayjng the information from the flip argument.

Should you not post a bit reasoning than that if you don't want to be accused of going after low hanging fruit? Should I be eliminated and then assuredly flip town it will help us if you make your reasons for voting for me as clear as possible.

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It was random as it occurred to me, sorry for the lack of organisation.

I get that but muddying the waters with t/'t violence is also not helpful. Also making sketchy cases against players seems an incredibly wolfy thing to do and seems like there is a high chance of backfiring. How then is anyone meant to find the wolves if town are carrying out wolf tactics? I have to stay in the comfort zone of my own abilities, I feel like I have damaged town's chances enough today with lashing out randomly at people with sketchy reasoning. Not only would I be likely eliminated by my flip would tell no one anything.

My reads haven't changed since the last list except you are now a mafia lean. I'm sure you can look back for that post just as well as I can.

I mean your interaction stood out. I don't see it standing out to other players makes it less remarkable.

Because pinning the tail on the donkey would start/add to a train that both Town and Mafia will make use of. I've seen the mess it makes for town when there are no wolves under suspicion on D1 - it makes nearly the whole day NAI. So I'm hoping that someone will ping me and my vote can be placed more usefully. Just like Turin just pinged me, though not sure if it is enough to earn my vote. Without a strong read I've got a much better chance of getting a town with a random vote than wolf. I don't see how that helps at this point. Waiting for things to heat up a bit and see if any of the wolves are going to implement a cunning plan.

I think if you take it in the context of me sussing Turin for being nice, helpful and supportive my tone makes sense. Though of course I would say that - but I think it is very different for sussing him for making contradictory statements or whatever. I find it a little but strange that you sussing Turin for a post I also found wolfy, and then sussing me for not sussing enough. It seems a little contrived but I guess with so little content so far all reads are going to feel a little contrived. Still, feels like you are going out your way to generate some suspicion.

I know you are not pushing me, that is what I mean. It is harsh to sus someone for being nice, and as I say I don't think this is a definite tell which means you are certainly mafia, but it seems you are more likely to butter me up as mafia than town. As I said I normally wouldn't say anything at this point and see how it plays out, but given the circumstances I thought I should share this before I possibly cannot.

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Elegant

This is a sus post. Turin knows I'm sus of people that push me, and knows I'm partial to people saying nice things about me (as I stressed that all last game). This feels too nice, too chummy. That said I don't think it is a smoking gun and normally I would wait and see how this develops but as I am such a high person of interest on most people's lists I thought I'd put it out there now incase I don't have time to later. Certainly puts Turin for me on a mafia lean.

Just slept for most of the past 36 hours and still slept in till 11. I was dreading the catch up but it was less than expected, lol. So I'd apologise for slanking but it seems unnecessary. Autocorrect wanted me to apologise for spanking, not sure what it knows that I don't. Not liking how everybody seems plausibly town. I'd expect Turin if town to be more active and town-cheerleading, but he is not doing anything suspicious. Ithi seems a bit too critical of everything. Nyn has been posting a lot and asking questions but not overly solving. Key seems the most straightforward townie doing townie things. Dice was making jokes(!) being grumpy and making out of game references. The jokes is a new one for me, grumpy is NAI and the wrestling posts are a tell possibly of mafia distraction tactics? Marsh sounds plausible but not sure I like his logic yet he hasn't used it in anger yet so difficult to have an opinion. Ed seems to have posted nothing but fluff. DPR and Verb seem to be having something of a love in without noticibly contributing. But is it a town love affair or a mafia one? Lenlo, Rand and Tig no read on. So not being much help, I'm afraid, even after my herculean sleep. I'd say run up Dice, but in my experience Dice reacts in exactly the same way to being voted for in both alignments. Maybe Ed to see which way he jumps? But I'm loath to vote at random, however I have little else to go at this point and DL is rapidly approaching. Regarding my "change" in style, from my pov, I still just posting the way I always do. *shrugs* not really a lot I can say to reassure anyone on that score. I still stand by that voting for someone for saying nothing when everyone else is making joke votes and posting memes seems unfair, but there we are.

Never thought of that... I wonder if that is what it is meant to mean...

It is kinda open to interpretation, I guess. Personally it means something like "God-like", as we all shelter in the hoof of the Creator. So I suppose it really is indistinguishable to the fire sword (Callandor?) but cuter.

No they aren't. It is a fact that to fit everything into the time they have things have to be cut and changed. You cannot have all 2,793 (or however many it is) named characters in the show. Things can be added to more easily explain things, or to keep things consistent, or any of a myriad of reasons. This does not mean that all additions are good and necessary, nor that all cuttings are good and necessary. And there is no link between any one instance with another. And it is something of a strawman, to interject at this point in a discussion about cutting Suian's arc short to claim anyone supporting or thinking it is a sensible decision also is in favour of Maksim's greater roll or any other change. They are different things.

Reducing Maksim's role or changing the episode with Steppin (which I agree was an odd inclusion) does not mean that suddenly there is time follow every story arc. I was specifically talking about Suian's arc for the rest of the story. Given the actress probably has other things to do than play a bit character in the background in scenes where lots of characters will have to be chopped, that the rest of her arc does not really impact the story, that if she remains they will need to keep spending time on her relationship with Moiraine (if they keep that character), and many other things, I would say it was a reasonable decision. There is no connection between making cuts to the story in one place and not in others. Whether Steppin's episode was a good or a bad idea, that has no influence on the decision to execute Suian. The story must be hugely pruned to fit into the schedule they have, that is a fact not an opinion. How well they have gone about it is subjective. But your argument that if some characters are given more screentime then others should not get less is nonsensical.

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Town Cop, Town vanilla and town again now, which goes without saying, lol.

Wombats have cubic poop. Nuff said. Lol, that isn't what I was saying either - I was saying that even when I was involved in NAI activities, not trying to cast shade or read or whatever, people were finding me suspicious. And I did wonder about the implications of that outside of the game, but it is hardly relevant here. Scottish people speak English I should point out here, in case that is a misunderstanding - I'm not a Gael and even they are fully fluent in English. Having to learn another language late in life probably doesn't help, but most of problems come from the fact that my vocabulary soaks up words from a lot of different sources so I am not always sure if I am using words entirely correctly without a dictionary. That probably sounds odd to a lot of people, but that is the way my brain works. What am I missing here? Feeling dumb, lol.

Fair point, thank you.

lol, I don't use a thesaurus. I do use a dictionary though - most people use them when they read a word they don't understand, use them when I write a word I don't understand. #heavyproblems