Someone needs to explain this dice case to me, cause I still have no idea what it's about. I'm open to it, I'm neutral on the guy and dont think he's town yet, but I have no idea what the case is.

Ohhh I see the issue, Zander I think the tie random means it randoms between the tied wagons, not all 4 wagons. Ithi can confirm, but I think I see the confusion now.

You're saying so much while saying so little.

Anyways, dinner time, VOTE HEAVY Put my money where my mouth is before I head out.

I have not seen the previous game at all, this is the first mafia game I've look at in years. I'd be willing to lynch RTE first and see how that confirmation affects Cairos though, like I said I'm not super confident on that 3rd slot. Could also be Dice, though I don't really understand your push on him fwiw

Yeah... This doesnt make sense with what you said before and seems like you're pulling it out of your pocket while continuing to do this whole "I'm confused and it's your fault so your a wolf" thing, despite spending most of the night phase trying to setup lynches on people. Anyways like I said, my current wolf team is Heavy/RTE/...Cairos? Least sure on Cairos, there was some back and forth between him and RTE in D1, but that could easily have been distancing since no votes/serious pushes really came from it that I can remember. Right now, that's the group I'd look at and it would give us two wolves on the Cass train, which would make sense.

You're not wrong, I have 2 on me. You wanna talk, got any questions, we can figure it. I'd say though, we have 1 conf town voting another conf town in Verb/Shad and you/me voting Cass, and all of us were wrong. If we have at least one experienced wolf, that means they probably shot Shad to avoid the watcher? Unless Verb holstered, but we'll get his thoughts tomorrow.

Final vote of D1. The 3 confirmed town are Shad/Cass/Verb. Not a single one of them were on the Cass train. So... What is Heavy talking about?

Wait Shad wasn't even on that train at all. Who the heck is Heavy talking about?

That... is a good point. I didn't catch that, I thought he meant Cass. But Cass was the one being voted so... Who is the other person he means?

Well hopefully now that Verb doesnt have to hide/ride that line to avoid being NKed he will be more helpful. Dudes thoughts/words are the only guaranteed town thing we have, we can trust everything he says is coming through honestly, which is helpful.

I mean, we've explained it a few times, both during and after, but you've pushed back every time. Also I'm gonna let you in on a secret, every lynch in the game is going to involve some townies. That's just how majorities work.

As far as town core goes at this point, for me it's Me/Verb/Zander against the world atm

Bout to go to dinner, but my current focus today is RTE and Heavy.

"Explain to towns satisfaction why this happened" This reads like the fakest statement I've ever seen, no lie.

With how expected it was, they could have been trying to dodge the Watcher? That or they are inexperienced as wolves maybe?

Interesting... Verb didn't die, which tells me he's legitimately the Vig because the real vig would have shot him for lying no question, he's definitely town. So I can only assume that Vig and Scum shot the same person?

Imo? Heavy or RTE are good shots Man you're oddly obsessed with that when everyone else has moved on. And yeah, it wasn't theatrical and it still wasn't a push in Zander, so I'm still not convinced yoy actually read it.

Aww the QTs are lost to time.

Oh holy crap, the Black Tower mafia games like WW2 are still alive. Time to relive 12 years ago with my favorite victory ever.

Oh nice! Have fun, I'm going to a tournament. Tiny plastic space men, think like dnd but with 50+ models

Anyways, time to go paint a bunch of 40k models for this weekend, good times.

Look man, if RTE is wolf trying to pocket me up to not lynch him, he's not doing a great job. The only reason he wasn't lynched yesterday is because Zander swapped over to save wagonomics, otherwise I was content to see him go. You've created this relationship from a bunch of one-sided interactions. Like I said, I'm not defending RTE, I'm pushing you.

Fair, didnt realize Night wasn't meant to be discussion time. Sorry.