2 things. I'm not defending RTE, I'm pushing you. I was content with an RTE lynch. I still am tbh, I wouldn't be upset if he got vigged or lynched tomorrow. But right now, you're scummier than he is. I'm not concerned about defending myself, because I know you're wrong, I'm confident everyone else will see that, and I'd rather out/hunt wolves than care about a mediocre push on myself.

He specifically said he needed to save himself, and that that was why he was voting Cass. He explicitly said that

Also no one is blaming the result of the flip on you, we voted for her, thats our cross to bear. What we're blaming you for is all of this pre-flip setup you've done, as if you knew what the result would be and are now trying to angle that into future mislynches.

If no one would hold her responsible for saving herself, why are you holding RTE responsible for saving himself?

Sorry Zander, I dont get the Dice the arguments, you'll have to lay that out for me. Personally, I'm incredibly suspicious of Heavy now, and the way they were seemingly prepared for this and are already setting up lynches on people tomorrow, specifically you and me, who imo have done nothing but try to solve this game.

Are you trying to shade the one person confirmed town in all of this by implying we should be suspicious of her for not moving her vote? What? This makes no sense? Yes, I'm suspicious of you because you were making a lot of pre-flip preparation, setting things up for tomorrow.

Christ, how did we find both roles day 1? Fun Yeah... No, I think I'm gonna be lookin at you, cause this is an over reaction and you've been selling me/RTE without much in the way of justification for a while now. I said before that this quote below looks like a pre-flip prep, and it's already starting.

Is this some kind of pre-flip prep? And Zander, I'm content on cass. I think we learn a lot from what was said here.

Which do you prefer Zander, Cass or RTE. I'm down for either, I think both have a lot of merit to them, I just wanted us off Verb and talking about those two trains instead of just assuming one. I wanted to force wolves to pick, and see what that shakes out, instead of allowing them an easy CFT onto RTE.

All I can say, if you're really the vig, is good luck Verb. You can either ruin this game or crack it right open. Lets go gambling.

I have no idea how you reached half of these conclusions tbh

I assume he means his lynch flip, since he's currently leading and I'm not willing to risk losing a game changing vig shot on a claim that, if it's a lie, will resolve itself tonight when the real vig shoots.

This game went from #Solved to "Roll the dice" at the drop of a hat, time to buck up or shut up.

No, the vig does not come back, only the watcher.

Look man, I unvoted you, I am putting my faith in you, I am believing in you. I dont have any other way to show it than that. At this point, I'm gambling with this game baby.

I was assuming Verbal would shoot me if he's the vig, because I'm the only person he's really cased and the last 2 hours have been him vs me sooooooo. It's really just, how far can I trust Verbal. I wasnt meaning wolf NK, I meant Vig shot.

No, replaceable watcher + vig I believe, that's how I read it.

Is it? Is it really? I feel like I have good reason to not believe this. That said... It is best for the town to gamble on your word and pray to the lord you're better than the last 72 hours have been. Unvote Verbal Vote Cass? RTE also viable, but that last minute cass switch bugs me.

Do I? Cause bro, you're last hour of play has not been good and has not given me much reason to trust you. Especially when I know you're going to be killing a townie tonight (Me, hi again), resulting in 2 dead in one night. I'm struggling with the idea of if its really pro-town to let you make a bad shot, and reduce our numbers even more. At the same time, lynching a vig is stupid. So... What do

That was a fast meeting, we love what the impending government shutdown as done to my job. What have I come back to? Christ. God... Do I believe it? Can I afford to believe it? The right play is to accept it, move on, try to prove your innocence with who you shoot tonight, maybe on a called shot, dunno if that's the right play yet but theres no doc to stop it so. If you call it, watcher can watch that person and we get 3 possible outcomes: Wolves + You visit the same person trying to frame you, you get confirmed and the wolf gets caught Wolves hold their shot and let you shoot trying to frame you, but if you hit a wolf then it's gucci and if you don't, we're right back where we started. You're a wolf and going to use the NK to fill space, but if that's the case the real vig just shoots you tonight and that's #solved By most routes, we win if we just let you live and analyze your called shot. Problem: I know for a fact I'm going to be that shot, and tbh I think I have more to bring to this town than you do at this point. So is it really worth you kill someone I know is town (Me, hi), resulting in 2 dead in one night? Statistically, from an outside perspective since y'all can't 100% confirm I'm town, yes. Personally, I want to play the game and I'm not enthused with the idea of getting shot by someone who purposefully tried to look bad to avoid getting NK'ed, and is now going to shoot me for catching them looking bad, which they did on purpose.

I need to pop out for a work meeting, but I should be back before EoD.

Do you think I wouldn't? I've been pretty open about everything this game, and havent backed down from any questions or pushes.

tbh, I'm half not expecting to live the night either from Vig (Who thinks I'm wolf, fair enough) or Wolves (Who think I'm onto them). So I'm not really concerned about D2 cause I'm not even sure I'll live to see it! Instead, I just want to make sure we have good knowledge and good D2 investigation/lynch targets so we can pull this game back.