I'll give you this, I expect my reads to adjust/dial in a lot once we get our first flip and can use that concrete info to really dig into what was said/how people acted.

Sure, but they are new, 1 game is not a very large sample size, and you've self admitted to hard pocketing her as carry over from the previous game. I'm not gonna just... not look at her because you said "pocket"

I agree with the Verb one, he seemed resigned pretty early to the "Lynch one of Zander/Lenlo, watch/lynch the other after if the first flips town". Very little effort put into figuring that kerfuffle out either way, oddly prepared for what to do right after.

Total agreement there. Its like every single person is ignoring what I actually said at the start, "This is a bad joke". How has this morphed into me trying to gas light some train on Zander for it? I get y'all are going to give Zander a pass for posting 80% lololol comments, I dont like it but I've accepted it, but you could at least actually read what I wrote. Christ. Anyways, catching up now. Early reads from what I've seen while skimming a bit, I'm very nervous about the Gud pockets, theres like no effort going into actually reading them instead just passing them by, Shad looks good even if I disagree with him in multiple places that's fine, Cairos ngl I'm not seeing much and these sort of "look just busy enough" posts are pinging me, RTE I think people have valid reasons for but outside of that one vig comment I havent seen anything terrible. It's day 1, so we dont have much more to go on though.

It's a good word, really rolls off the tongue, I like it.

"Excessively dramatic" and you dont even bring up my use of the word "halcyon", now I feel insulted, I like that word.

Maybe some traditions need to die. So you *also* didn't read what I said, huh? The part where I specifically called it out as a bad joke and then Zander blew that up into the whole thing, because apparently criticizing lazy "traditions" makes me a wolf. Screw that, if I see something stupid I'm going to call it out, and that joke was stupid. Both of you are ascribing some grand plan to me saying "Get better jokes".

To slow

Cool, thanks. Valid reason imo. And yeah, Multiquote can have some issues.

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He voted you way way back when all this started, I mentioned it in my initial catchup post on page 17 I think, when talking about how it didnt feel like a joke response. Remember?

Early thoughts on the RTE train... I dont hate it? It seems like it's coming out of nowhere, but RTE has been going around and sort of poking/responding to everyone but I havent seen much in the way of actual takes. Like he never took a side in the Me/Zander thing, often saying my criticisms of Zanders style make good points but then turning around and either flat asking if Zander is a vig or one off comments of "This is the first towny post you've made". I need to pay special attention to him when I look back I think. I'll admit though, I'm biased, he backed me up often in the day and a half. So if y'all have more to go on that I'm not seeing, I'm open to the arguments.

For me, I'm going to be revisiting some stuff tonight and coming back with a fuller list myself, so I'm not just botherin you to do somethin for no reason.

Hey Dice, so I know you said it'd take some time and all, but I just wanna remind you/ask what your take on the first couple of pages in all of this was? I get the RTE vote, I'm not against it, I like that you're going your own way and not just taking the easy bandwagon on anyone. But I'd love a bit more detail on that vote, as well as your takes on a few of the more active people if you could. For the RTE thing, I ask for more not because it's a bad vote, but because I wanna see what got you there. Was it just the weird soft vig outing attempts at Zander or what?

I'd argue the rest of the town make do, and that he's more likely to drive people away from ever bothering to read him, but that's just me.

Good clarification, slightly less useful now but can still make it work I'm sure.

I have no idea, I've never played a replaceable role before, I just thought that went *with the role*. Someone who has can correct me, this is all conjecture.

Who watchers the watcher

Plus it's worth noting, the Watcher is replaceable, so we're not at risk of losing that information if *they* get shot, right? I assume the new watcher gets access to all of the old watchers... watches?

That only applies if there are 2 deaths, since theres no world where scum holds their N1 shot in a game with no doctor. From there we talk about who we think was the scummier shot and which was likely to be shot by a towny.

Personally I don't care, the only reason its brought up at all is because Zander wants to use it to bully completely valid criticisms off of himself.

Yes, and there's at least one high profile game where we did that exact thing to a victory.

Yeah, it's weird to me how he dismisses the idea of text having tone while simultaneously vaunting himself as an experienced, high win rate, vibe based town player.

Oh right, thats how watcher works, I was thinking they were a cop equivalent