Shad is the guy in the chair!!

Clear the room. We don't want any nasty surprises.

No, you get leftover spaghetti bol and you'll like it. 45 minutes to go.

Probably wanna make another fusion spell too. Maybe even first. Yes.

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Aww, our girl is all grown up. She's achieved her final form.

So Ed posted more dead than alive? Did dpr forget to send his death certificate?

Wow. She does seem to want to. I mean she offered. It feels like it is so.ething she aspires to. I'm gonna vote accept.

The list of roles appears to be all inclusive. Nothing not there will appear. I take that to mean no 3p. I doubt multiple mafia teams but with no real flips it's possible... I guess.

I'm voting SD. Not looking at you. I agree that the today's choice should be between because if you right then one of us is mafia (SD). And we need to resolve that. I understand that tomorrow I'm probably bait if he is actually town. The other possible reasons for your result need to be addressed. You can choose to disregard this out of hand, I'm not. I think your math is off but that's not important.

Sorry about the double post. Also the blah blah was just a placeholder to have typing space when I quoted Heavy.

Blah blah This bit is just false. He can be Completely, totally wrong about your alignment and still be town and right about other things. I understand having doubt because your PoV is that he is making up his read of you. It is not necessarily true. He could just be WRONG. Your assuming that his having you as mafia automatically makes him mafia is damaging to town. The first rule of mafia is you can and certainly will be wrong sometimes.

Blah blah This bit is just false. He can be Completely, totally wrong about your alignment and still be town and right about other things. I understand having doubt because your PoV is that he is making up his read of you. It is not necessarily true. He could just be WRONG. Your assuming that his having you as mafia automatically makes him mafia is damaging to town. The first rule of mafia is you can and certainly will be wrong sometimes.

*ducks the PAFO SIGN coming for Darthe, lolololololol

Would the symp view as town?

The facts are all that I took from your post. You did claim the view, so de facto claimed the role. Yes? Did the MOD verify the role was used? Yes, he marked it as removed. It was not attached to a dead player,meaning it was used. This is a basic logical path. If you want to argue this, go stand in a corner. Did anyone else claim the role or a view? No. Again I think this is clear cut. Not sure what you are on about. As far as busdriver use I will definitely disagree. This game has several alignment revealing roles. There is no mention of a Godfather to protect any mafia from views so I would assume that it doesn't exist. Why wouldn't mafia look to protect themselves by switching with townies to get themselves cleared? Or to try to get a false red peek on someone which would also put suspicion on the person that claimed the peek? Potentially 2 easy days of town lunches from one action. That you are not immediately seeing this is very troubling.

Town. Like 85%. She is looking for and at every little thing. If it looks suspicious, she's digging at it. The tenacity is telling for me. The way she went after Tephulis for his Tig stance, the way she clapped back at you. The way she has gone at Peace. These are signs of what I call "the Eye of Ithiron". She can be wrong, but she will just keep steamrolling onto the next thing that hits her radar. It is a obvious town tell to me. She didn't push nearly as hard at anyone in your game when she was mafia. She made cases but it wasn't the same. Does that make sense?

No. 2. only required your result to be wrong due to a possibility of a busdriver. It could be wrong in fault to you. This is basically "force majeur", or circumstances beyond your control affected your ability. 3. Is you actively lying about the view. I think that is highly unlikely unless the numbers mean that mafia could win tomorrow some way that I don't currently see. The fact you aren't seeing the difference is troubling though.

I'm good with either 1 or 2. I might be good to get one more little Nyra moment.

From the first paragraph it looks like you are convinced Darthe is not town. Do you think it is exactly Peace and Darthe? If so, okay, as you can only lunch one person per day. Say you lunch Peace and he flips with a role that looks town, or with nothing, what does that do to your Darthe read? Or reverse it and say he flips with something that looks mafia aligned? What then? It's not just because he said so. There is undeniable evidence that the ability was used. So I don't see how if you are so convinced that he is lying because his other actions are so anti-town that you aren't voting for him. It's like you are saying "he's definitely a wolf but I'm going this way instead ". That doesn't make sense to me. Unless you are even more convinced Peace is a wolf. It doesn't seem that way though because you said you are voting Peace to "see what shakes out". I'm confused.

Take yourself out of the equation. Which of the 3 scenarios do you see as the most likely, or if you prefer, which do you think is true? It sounds like you are disbelieving of Darthe's motivation. Does that mean you think it is a ruse? Therefore he is most likely mafia. If you believe him completely then you should be voting either SD or me because that is the path to victory for town. If you are uncertain about just the result (which is warranted) then you should be looking for the mafia independent of this information. My question then is, What do you believe?