Preferably with enough time to discuss and not be caught in a bind in the waning moments of day.

Yes. I dont Know they are town. No.matter how much I think they are town they might not be. Darthe last game and in Hamilton. You in the other game. I thought you guys were town. Pretty convinced of it. But you weren't. The adverse ramifications of a random hitting a valuable person/role is too high to allow our guess to hurt town.

*I would...

Well, I could do that. Truth is would vote anyone to prevent random. I don't have any alignment checks on anyone. Tempting fate leads to bad things. But we need more people in here participating.

Unified element bond cause we didn't do the others. Unless we are really Gilderoy Lockhart.

Think we keep going. I might be too lazy to pick a memory though, lol.

I agree that votes don't vanish and we can find a way to glean some Intel from them eventually. I disagree that letting the lunch go random is inherently better than lunching any single person even if you THINK they are town. There are only a few roles that could allow you to KNOW his alignment. If there is a special reason, it should be made clear so we don't waste more time. If you had some sort of investigation that gave you a read on SD then you don't have it anymore so you aren't in danger. My case was all the observations I made that imo cast SD in a bad light. I don't get what you said about agenda because I didn't think he had one last game. Maybe it was just to get bussed so Darthe got cred but DPR and Dice messed that up for them. Personally I'm content with my vote at present. I would consider Heavy or Berf if needed for consolidation.

I concur.

Fire next. The Spire one. Control not dominance

Maybe see if it just gives us the answers, lol.

@SinisterDeath, @ed2funy, @Gudrean, we got about 6 hrs until dl and if no majority a random player gets lunched. Could you please come and vote? maybe some thoughts too would be nice. Looking mostly at You, Ed.

Why are you trying to say you didn't say it? That you waffled is irrelevant. You also trying to say I'm misrepping you is malarkey. You quoted all your defenses for yourself and left out the part where you actually said the thing I said you did. Misrep projection on your part.

Welcome back DartheTig. We should get some thoughts from that slot now.

You clearly introduced the possibility of it. Is that not a form of defence. Creating doubt. You know, like subtly. That's my opinion and I stand by it. You said you didn't say it. I showed you did.

I don't think so. I think he is likely mafia but I don't think that is a true slip.

His SD case was imo a copy of yours.

Second paragraph.

I Merely noted the things that stood out in my notes. You and SD appeared a lot in ways that were questionable imo. Here was my method. I read the thread taking notes about various things I may want to.mention. I highlight post that strike me as sketchy. I go back and read.my notes looking for patterns, links, etc. I form my conclusions and post them. ( thus iteration is a bit smaller cause I've been away and didn't want to add a whole page to the thread of reacting to individual posts) Lemme find the TWTBAW post.

Dice, I don't see it but all the words are running together in my head.

Lololololol There was more than that in the above thoughts, but OK.

I really wanted to reflect first. Oh well. Water is as good as any. I imagine we need to do them all.

Sorry that was longer than intended. Okay current takes Turin: yep, I'm town. Shad: town, I see him looking hard at things. Some things I don't agree with but I admit to not being able to see tone and such. Ithi: feels like town, I follow her thoughts. Leelou: not saying a lot but what she has said made sense and asking good questions. Good town lean Peace: I like the trying to move the game moments. Not consistent in actual digging though imo. Slightest town.lean. Dice: not seeing as much grumpyDice. Maybe the drinking helped. Not a lot here but nothing pinging either. Berf: neutral. I liked his early stuff. Im kinda worried he is riding ithis coattails. Ed: null. Not enough to go on. Tig: null. Not enough to go on. These two need to contribute more. Gudrean: Current but not giving independent thoughts. At least not as much as would like. Nothing really stands out. She did give some sass a couple times which I think is positive. Slight mafia lean in part to PoE. Tephulis: mafia lean. I don't remember anything he said. He has been in thread but I have no idea of any of his views except lunch slankers?!? Heavy: noted above. The resistance to ending jokes. Mafia SD: mafia. All of the thoughts above.

Everything took longer than it should so sorry for not being about. I'm just gonna go through some thoughts from my notes and maybe address a couple of post after. First thing I noted was heavy seemed content to continue joking when Darthe attempted to get the game going. SD sussed Darthe accused him of distancing from him, which would have made them teammates if Darthe was mafia. It felt like an attempt to tie himself to a townie. Darthe then died. Peace bemoans lack of hunting, proceeds to not hunt. SD says spec leads to WIFOM. I disagree. Berf was able to articulate a reasonable thought that wasn't WIFOM in any stretch. IMO anyway. SD town win con thing. First, the language is boiler plate so easy to fake. Second the thought process doesn't track for me. Maybe it is just me. Heavy sussing Shad and Darthe (Darthe had Heavy as maf) SD confusing post count with spam. It's about content. Ironic considering his reads later. Heavy says it's N0, we shouldn't be looking for wolves?!?!? Darthe dies. Bad break but town still has some aces up our sleeves I think. Reactions I noted: Gudrean exclamation Tephulis also (maybe they went what?? Together) Ithi call out DPR for necromancer not being able to revive Darthe Leelou pours one out for Darthe (if she's mafia this is smooth as heck) Heavy "woe is us" a bit OTT imo SD more WIFOM Heavy susses Ithi for shift from joking to militant in regards to SD. She was on him through the night so I don't get this. SD susses Heavy, accused him of killing Darthe. Heavy not liking any of Shad's posts. He "me too"s a question Leelou asked. Felt like buddying. SD reads, wishy washy comes to mind. Is he voting anyone? Heavy thinks mafia is Shad, Ithi, Tephulis but willing to drop Shad cause he has Heavy as town. Wha???? SD fib about me interacting with Ithi. We did go.back and forth about the mech thing. Ftr, you are probably never gonna see much in the way of chit chat in thread because of all the past flak it created. My general MO for dealing with her is not to worry about it until D2 at the earliest. SD uses phrase "let's say" NO. SAY WHAT YOU MEAN. Berf WIFOM about Darthe's reads. I don't think he came back to that. Shad asks about last game on SD. Others have replied. My take is NO. He didn't make sense then. He was full of WIFOM then. He used the light rod thing to deflect then also. I feel he is doing that again. My opinion. Heavy defends SD as TWTBAW. Another thing used last game. Heavy talks about Ithi aggressive. Yes, the Eye of Ithiron is a thing. That's as far as my notes go. I'll give my overall thoughts next but I see that I mentioned SD and Heavy a lot.

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