I don't know if anyone's touched on it for this episode or not. But the CGI for the Trollocs, particularly the one Hunting Aram sucked. Quite honestly, (Rose tinted glasses) I feel the CGI used in Underworld for the Werewolves was better, then that. While I feel it was important for Aram to kill and get shunned from the Tuatha'an, I don't know that they really did his shunning any justice. I'm going to be rewatching the episode here tonight, but As far as I recall.. we never see him get shunned like Rand's ancestor got shunned. So we lose that emotional connection for Aram's character. It's implied it happened... but he was just offered a job as the town's blacksmith, so everything's okay, right? /s Some of the Trollocs throughout the episode looked fine some just looked off and I can't quite put my finger on why. As much as I liked Valda finally getting his karmic retribution... The graphics of that scene... were really cheesy. The fire looked like really crappy vhx fire. Maybe my stream quality went to crap when I was watching it on my laptop, but it did not look like a real fire at all. The post fire effects were decent enough. He looked quite crispy. Seriously. Stick to practical effects... Setting people on fire is... incredibly easy to do. And he wasn't even on FIRE That long as far as stunts go! (Seriously, this would have been CHEAPER then a CGI fire that looks like shit!) Criticism wise. Killing off Valda and Loial isn't something I practically liked. I wanted Valda to stick around and make us really hate him, and I think Loial could have done some more in the show had they let him. Next week we're expecting them to kill off Lanfear and Moiraine, only Lanfear and Moiraine aren't "permanently" dead, even if they "say" they're dead, they very well may be returning in future seasons until the series ends and proves other wise. One ongoing criticism? I have with the show... if you want to call it that. Is that I don't know if the writers/directors/producers of the show have handled "POC" in the show very well, both in how they're killing them off, or in how they've handled them as villains/heroes, and other ways when it comes to various tropes and other things.. and I say this knowing full well that the show has an extremely diverse cast and crew, including the writers, directors, etc. In S3E1, Leane merced a certain Black Ajah member with her staff very violently. In S3E7, they choose to kill off two "black" cast members, who have been with the show since season 1, in the same episode to "Balance" out the hero and villain ratio. People will obviously say... It's okay! They're killing Lanfear and Moiraine next! But as I mentioned above, I don't think that's permanent. (until proven otherwise in the series finale) I don't know, as I've said before, it's a hard balance to strike... I'm not an expert on that particular topic; But I also don't think it's helping the show's case when they kill off Hammed Animashaun and Abdul Salis in the same episode. But hey, I thought this show was ultra woke, ya know?

Tor published the power rankings here https://reactormag.com/the-wheel-of-time-companion-strength-chart-of-major-channelers/ The only real column you have to pay attention to is the furthest left, the + value ones are the old system that became invalidated after he restructured it at some point in the series. The wiki (link below), combines the official chart (above) with what people have said in the books about how powerful people are (like the aforementioned Bode Cauthon). There's likely some errors in this one, since those added to this versus the official are based on what people in the book are saying about how they compare with others. https://wot.fandom.com/wiki/Strength_in_the_One_Power_rankings

And Rand was able to ripple the ground, create lightning, gateways, fire swords, all without being able to "see" his weaves or "know" what he was doing as a "wilder" and that was "before" LTT was ever in his head. 😉

There's several elements to this. 1) Look at what Nynaeve did in Season 1. She literally blasts what Egwene did out of the water with no "training" at all. (note, Nynaeve is 3(+10) to Eegwene's 8(+5).) 2) How much older is Daise then Egwene? How long has she been channeling and not knowing it? (Just like Nynaeve) 3) Does Perrin's Ta'Veren play into this?

That's technically consistent with the book. I believe it's stated Egwene has the spark. She would have been a wilder, had Moiraine not found her and taught her. Nynaeve also has the spark, and she is a wilder. Per the linked article, it lists Egwene, Nynaeve, and Bodewhin Cauthon, as all people with the "spark" who would inevitably have channeled with or without training. But then you have people like the Sul'Dam, who can only learn to channel, if trained.

Yes, in Season 1 Episode 5, Egwene was being tortured by Valda, and was incapable of channeling. Later during that same episode Egwene was forced to watch Valda torture Perrin, and because of the stress and Need of that situation, she was finally able to burn Perrin's and her own ropes... I don't believe she was ever taught the weave of fire by Moiraine. It's also worth noting that she was only ever able to embrace the source, after Moiraine taught her the Technique. From a power scaling perspective, those girls are right now doing more then Egwene did in season 1 in terms of raw power. But we also don't know how long those girls (in the show) have been doing that, and how long they've been hiding it. Book wise. Egwene is rated at 8(+5), and the Cauthon's are ranked at 9(+4). Certifiably, they are supposed to be ranked just below Egwene.*

Agreed. There's always going to be conflicting ideas between two opposing view points on adaptations like this... and I or no one else is ever going to convince the other that they're right and the other party is wrong. We can have interesting dialogue/conversations and critiques going back and forth and both parties can grow out of it, as we each discover new things we may have missed in our own watches that help us reevaluate what it is we just saw and reframe it within our own minds... Like you said, not all battles can be won... And I don't think anyone should be attempting to. Changing someone's Beliefs/Ideas by arguing with them over the internet is virtually impossible. It's like trying to teach a goat to how to knit a sweater. The most we can do, is give a rebuttal, an answer to a question, an explanation for how something could work, but never try to constantly convince someone that they're wrong and that's why they should enjoy the show, or why they're wrong, and that's why they should hate the show. You can be wrong or right about some detail of something happening in the show or the book, but you're well within your right to love or hate the show. I don't care if you love or hate the show, but it's never your right to postulate that hate/love to others in such a way that you're actively telling others that if you don't hate/love it you must be X or Y.

If I've learned anything, the answer is no. Doesn't matter what your opinion on the show is, or what the book is... If what everyone believes is true, then apparently we all hate the books.

Wasn't Perrin also stabbed with it? Regardless we have to separate out book knowledge from show knowledge. At that point in the show, (season 1) I don't believe it was ever established that the dagger was as deadly as it was portrayed in Season 2. So I think the only conclusion that can be drawn is thus: If the dagger didn't instantly kill Perrin & Loial in Season 1 finale, but in Season 2 it instantly kills people and melts through doors, then the Dagger "grew" in power between Season 1 and 2.

I'm aware they weren't armed, but they were also "trained", and despite that what happened? https://www.charlottenc.gov/cmpd/News-Information/Newsroom/Eight-Officers-Shot-One-CMPD-Officer-and-Three-U.S.-Marshals-Fugitive-Task-Force-Officers-Killed-During-Investigation-4-29-2024 Point is, whether it's with a gun, or a knife, or "Magic" you're going to find examples all over of someone doing something bad, and them causing all kinds of havoc against trained or untrained people, because the human condition is as I've said before...

Wow, I love how you don't actually read my posts. Show vs Book is different on this as we already know, but regardless, Daise, unlike these Aes Sedai... Had literally seen battle.. And Recently. When was the last time these Aes Sedai been in battle? Two Decades ago? Longer? Daise had been dealing with Trollocs since Perrin Left, and during Winters Night. Again, "Need" doesn't require knowing the the Weave. Aes Sedai are required to "know" the weave, because that's how they are taught. That's how they've trained everyone how it works. Once they've trained that into people, That's the only way you can learn to use it from there. They quite literally "beat" the "needing" to do something out of people. (Mind, This is more book side of things then show side of things) The show doesn't explain individual strengths in the 5 powers of the One Power. Per the Books, it's entirely plausible that certain sitters, literally can't make an Air Shield and would never make an "Air Shield", and would instead, use fire to destroy arrows coming at them. If they're weak with Air, but strong in spirit, the best go-to move against another channeler is to... Shield them from the one power. We did in fact, see some sitters in the background attacking. The scene was chaotic. Most just didn't jump out of their seats and immediately go to town. She wasn't surprised. She literally watched Alanna take how many arrows? She rushed up there, and then pushed a shield out to protect her while other's extracted her. In that moment she thought "Protect", and those weaves formed a "Shield". This is literally a theme that ran through the first 3 books with Rand, and several other "wilder" characters through out the series as they developed "weaves" completely on their own, untrained, based on "need". Moiraine learned a "trick" to hear distant conversations as a teen, "untrained". Nynaeve learned to heal "untrained": This is not unprecedented by any means for an untrained wilder to just "do something" because they "needed to"... Specially when there is a Ta'Varen around! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting How about this then?

Here's a real life example. Why is it school shooters seem to take down so many people, including armed cops in the schools? Aren't those cops trained for years to use their firearms? Where did their skills go? Did they just suddenly forget how to use their sidearms? I thought they trained for years and decades to use those guns? But this untrained kid just... Killed them, and dozens of others? HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?! It's almost like... Shock and Awe is a thing.

And I gave you reasons why the Aes Sedia in that hall wouldn't use those weaves, while an "untrained" wilder could. And again, the reason you won't accept any answer isn't out of my "hostility" towards you, it's because you literally will not accept any answer to this, except that which is between your own ears.

Instead of just reading that last paragraph, read it all within context. I gave you reasons why an untrained "wilder" could make a shield. "Need". I also gave you 6 reasons why Highly trained "sitters" didn't or couldn't make "physical" shields. I posit, that the reason none of those are going to suffice for you, is because no answer, any one gives you, is going to ever be enough, because the only answer that will ever suffice is the one that rests between your ears.

If you're going to quote me, quote my whole post @Mailman

That's literally not what I said. I'm stating that you won't be happy with any answer anyone gives unless it's your answer, and that's the writers are bad.

You asked why an untrained could make a shield. The answer is because of Need. Why couldn't a sitter make a shield? There could be hundreds of reasons why they didn't do it, here's 6. 1. She was caught by surprise. 2. Shock 3. She didn't know the weave, her specialties are elsewhere. 4. She wasn't strong enough to make that kind of shield, shields require Air and Spirit, and she's strong in Fire and Wind. 5. Panic 6. They were focused on attacking, not defending. No answer I give you, the show runner gives you, or anyone gives you is going to be good enough for you, because it's not the answer you want to hear or read. The answer you want is that the show is bad, the writers are bad, and that they should probably go jump off a cliff for being so bad at their jobs, right?

Rand, an untrained channeler, used a shield and lightning at the same time because of "need". Nynaeve, an untrained channeler, used "healing" because of "need". The "twins" used "fire" on Valda because of "need". Knowing the weaves, isn't important as important as Aes Sedia believe it is. "Needing" something, allows the "weaves" to form themselves. When you believe you have to know what the weave looks like, in order to for channel that specific weave. That limits you. You get stuck and you're no longer able to do new things. You're locked out of the ability to create new weaves based on need... And that's why Aes Sedai hate Wilders. There is precedent for this in both the books and the shows.

Some of REE's "projects", depending on their original contracts with the Bandersnatch group, which unfortunately aren't available publicly, may very well be overstepping the bounds of their contract and are opening themselves up for multiple lawsuits. (Re: See there AI Projects)

My running theory for Season 4 is that "Lord Luc" and Faile will Pursue Perrin and the White Cloaks as they make their way for Amadicia by way of Caemlyn -> Lugard -> Jehannah -> Amador.... Or as it goes on TV... From the Two Rivers magically to Amador in 3 hours. lol Anyways, I think "Lord Luc", will become "Slayer" during the night while he and Faile sleep, and that's when he's going to start hunting Perrin with Dark Hounds. Eventually this will lead to Perrin escaping, as their camp is under attack and potentially a confrontation with Dain as he basically tells Perrin to just go after saving him from a Dark Hound. When Perrin kills that Dark Hound, Lord Luc will likely wake up with a similar wound on him, confusing Faile as to what's happening in the white cloak camp, as she would likely be on watch, and wondering why the hell he's wounded. Thus begins the Faile kidnapping arc.

Would Jaime Lanister and his Sister's relationship have played better on TV a decade ago then it would now? From a "societal" standpoint, large "polyamorous" relationships, are probably more controversial with TV watchers than a straight up haram. For starters... What's the most common trope on Anime? lol

Season 3 - Episode 7: Goldeneyes Director: Ciaran Donnelly Writers: Dave Hill Runtime: TBA Let's keep DM Tidy, and try to keep all discussions pertaining to S3E7: Goldeneyes to this topic for the next few weeks. When reading beyond this point, you should expect to encounter Full Spoilers Up to the ending of Episode 7 only, and full book spoilers in this topic.

I've heard this argument before, and I'll say it again... Why does it surprise anyone that someone like Min who probably has issues with her own self image, that when she saw a vision of "3 beautiful women", that she didn't recognize herself as "beautiful"? (Note: We haven't had "Elmindreda" come out to play yet in the show.) As for the "Haram" part, and Rafe talking about aligning it closer to "Polyamory"... I do find it interesting that everyone's suddenly now getting "Grossed" out over the idea of Rand's "Haram" (when it doesn't have to be a Haram?), when they didn't seem to care about it a decade ago.... Anyways, isn't it entirely possible that Rand could still be in a relationship with Aviendha and Min, while at the same time Aviendha is in a relationship with Elayne and Elayne and Rand aren't in any type of romantic relationship at all? And then If they keep Elayne's "Pregancy" Arc, that could comes into play as a form of daes dae'mar as she attempts to secure an heir as Rand starts to become King of Tear, Cairhen, etc...

What? REE doing something shady? No way!