Just before he died eh? Misrep. I posted that 22 hours ago. N0 ended 16 hours ago. Darthe's post, was Tuesday Night, at around 10:57pm. My post was the next morning, about 2 hours later around 10am after I had caught up in the topic and got around to addressing Darthe's oversight. 6 hours later, at 4pm ish for me, night 0 ended. By that point, I had literally been waiting... All day for Darthe's reply.

Worth noting. Ithillian setup her pre-vote on me, before the N0 ended, establishing her intent to vote for me on D1, even before Darthe was killed. I believe when I said Ithillian was a town lean, that was after, Ithillian quoted that text that showed Darthe saying Ithillian and Turin were Town. That forced me to reevaluate her scum read on me. >Btw, I finally figured out why I thought Darthe said there was a wolf between you and Turin. He quoted your post with Heavy, Ed and DPR and said something like, "but there's only one wolf between them" implying Heavy. Somehow, I conflated that post with the other one that involved you and Turin being town confirmed.< I normally don't sus people sussing me, because I expect it. If anything, I've been putting pressuring on you, to see where the other chips fly. Does someone come to my support offering weird defenses? Does someone aid your case against me? Or does someone go on the attack against you, or someone else? What do we have to work with? I ask you for a read list, you refuse. Ask for mine. I give it. You distract, and keep building that train against me. That feels kind of wolfy. After all, wolves don't want to be held to any kind of opinion, because those can be used against them later. But me? Yeah, I'm making it real easy for you have any kind of opinion on just me, right? So what are YOUR reads on other people besides me? It's real easy to be non-committal and hurl pot shots all day. It's another when you have to actually commit to some sort of "reads" on everyone in game. That's the WIFOM for ya. Could think of half of my posts as "stream of concious" if that helps. Welcome to the madness.

You realize the WIFOM becomes an infinite circle in either Town!SD or Mafia!SD, right? Either I'm an idiot, or a genius, a Mastermind, or a terrible Mafia player, or I have incredibly components Mafia team mates bussing me as I head straight to the grave. Or I'm Town, getting setup, and I'm just running my mouth, while the Mafia steer the conversation, or slank and let the town steer it in the direction they want them to. Either way, I think the end result is the same. I know my alignment is town. A cop could confirm that, assuming they don't get RB'd, or bussed. I could get shot today, but that assumes someone gave Ed the gun, and then yall will have to find a new train. But then you'll lose another townie.

Or... Here me out. I'm a natural lightning rod no matter my alignment, and Mafia are going to factor that into whatever they're plotting. @DPR this is why I mentioned that role last game. Lmao.

Definitely. Also possible. I might need that rum. My brains not braining and I'm misremembering things I've read. Like, I could have sworn I read Darthe saying there was a wolf between Turin and Ithillian. Then I go back and read it again today after Ithillian points it out, and Darthe clearly wrote that he cleared them as town? And the post was definitely never edited. That's not the first time that's happened to me today... There was a certain post in the the chat lounge that came up in my notifications from a few weeks back, that I swear I voted for Verb... So here's a thought. What do you make of Ithillian's reluctantancy to give a read list, after being asked.. Won't do it until I gave one. I finally do. And as far as I can remember, Ithillian still never gave a read list on all those people requested? Peace... Sort of gave one when requested. I specifically asked Darthe for one. Then Mafia kills em.

Yes that stuff exists (Standard Diffusion Models). The newer stuff, Sora, ChatGPT's 4o, Dall•E, Midjoruney, Ideogram, etc, have all clearly put their own limitations on that. They have had their own legal reasons for avoiding it, even before AI regulation was on the table. They want to avoid getting attached to lawsuits regarding revenge porn, CP, and anything regarding domestic terrorism or being sued for something to do with how their stuff being used for misinformation, could physically harm someone... Like their LLMs and AI photos being used to create books that are being publishes on Amazon, that include information about what types of Mushrooms are safe to eat. Here's a note; the AI books and their Diagrams are VERY WRONG on this. But hey, now we supposedly can't make laws regulating AI for the foreseeable future, so it's all good.. right?

Good luck trying to get AI to make someone like Gaidal Cain. Can't use words like "ugly". It also doesn't care for words like "fat". If anything, AI is trained on Super Models, and Marvel Characters. Want a character with a mom pouch? Good luck. Lol

Is there a train on me right now? I'm only seeing an engine.

Go back to my post on Darthe. Darthe comes in, posts 9 times in 30 minutes or so. I felt that was sus. I wait all day for a reply, I get nada. I then specifically tag him near EOD hoping to get a reply before N0 ends, as he never addressed why he mentioned everyone in his 9 posts except me. He winds up dead. And then exits the game as the only person with a known alignment. (I joked about the lengths he'll go to distance himself from me! lol) Mafia know I'm town this game, and I can't help but think that Mafia are laughing their asses of in their Mafia chat at my Lightning Rod, as they gleefully attempt to run a train up on me during D1. There were a lot of Gif from Ithi today, that I called "spam" and she called "reactions" to peoples posts. lol So here's one for you. What if the people leading the lynches, are Mafia?

That was the post you made about the coroner 11 hours ago. I thought it was interesting that you talked about the Coroner, and then Darthe immediately dies. I could see someone using this against you during future Days as a frame job after you try to get my lynched. That's what I was saying.

And we also spent the last 30 years pushing our products to Chinese manufacturers, which in turn allowed them to create a manufacturing industry that was able to pump out products at a higher quantity at a cheaper rate then almost anywhere else in the world, and a lot of that wasn't just because of cheap labor, but because of the amount of automation that exists at every level of the manufacturing process that just doesn't exist in American Manufacturing today. Yet, despite all of that, People still crave to buy products that are hand made. Why? Because of the quality and craftsmanship. You might even say. People like to get something that's curated, not something that's automated junk. Hell, even Star Trek talks about this type of thing with their "Replicators" in a post scarcity world. You say that, but who programs the AI? Who censors what the AI can believe, or think? Or what type of content it can host or produce? Or replicate and tell people? What thoughts is the AI allowed to have before that AI is removed and replace with a different AI that has thoughts that are more palatable to the masses? Right now, certain "free speech" absolutists are... absolutely against free speech. They are spear heading movements across the country to "ban books". Books that would be "Barred" from even being fed to these "AI" because that is not "Free Thought" for those AI to accept. Right now, Co-Pilot, ChatGPT, Sora, and other commercial generators, have a variety of safeguards in place to prevent things like "nudity". Nudity is "bad" mmmkay. Even implied nudity is bad. It's naughty. Violence is even bad. Why? Well, we can't have people go and make Deepfakes of real people. That's extremely bad. We also can't have people making Violent imagery with real people. We also can't have people making disturbing art. That's bad. Also, furry stuff is bad. So all that NSFW stuff on that one website is just, absolutely can't exist in those AI spaces. Want to make a Movie like Event Horizon? Can't do it. Body Horror, and pretty much every horror Genre is out of the question. So how the hell, can you do any type of "Wheel of Time" movie. When you can't do. Body Horror Nudity. or Violence? All these things are supposed to be "off limits" for AI Generators.. Right? Or are they just "off limits" for certain people? If you catch my drift. 😉 Only those who pay the big bucks can make art for a movie, and have access to do that kind of stuff. Images and art, that for it to even work it also needs to be... trained on to make said art. Want it to make a Trolloc? Well... You have to show it what a human-animal hybrid looks like. You gotta show it a bunch of realistic horror furry art. lolz

I mean... I've only seen her play as 3p and Wolf, and she was slanky in both those games. So.. you're not wrong. But I also learned, never give Ed a gun if your town. So.. Keep that in mind.

Lets say I have you as a Town lean right now. What do you make of the others I had on that list for you?

Huh. Sometimes I think DM is gaslighting the hell out of me. I could have swore I read that yesterday as there was a wolf between the two of you. My brain aint braining now. @DPR send me some rum?

I think you've also ignored my reads request... even after I gave mine.

If darthe was correct, It's either you or Turin. If he was wrong. Then neither of you. lol

That as one post, out of how many? No. In the context of what I'm talking about, the "distancing" I saw felt like you were "keeping your distance" from Turin, and only took a "pot shot" at 'em when Turin made an "error". The "distancing" is more in the "I'm staying away from interacting" with this person, rather then the "I'm going to throw this person under a bus" type of distancing. Who people interact with, and don't interact with plays a factor in this. Right? You really don't think me purposely not interacting with Tigraine last game wasn't a form of "distancing"? lolol

On the one post, you advocate to not use "mechanics" to determine who is mafia and who is town. That could be taken in a multitude of ways. Perhaps Mafia! have figured out a way for Town to solve mafia using mechanics and they don't want town to figure it out. On the second post, you mentioned that the Coroner will make sure the right people are removed from the game, for the "final death". On the "Frame job" angle, you leading the lynch against me, makes you scummy when I come out Town. Oh look. There's your post about taking out the Coroner. But wait, there's more! Who was it that was really focused on game mechanics? And who was all on Darthe's list of possible wolves that he thinks he "solved" the game right out the box? lol

If you notice, during that time frame, as I mentioned. You to were talking at around the same time. But you also never directly interacted with each other. Is that not distancing?

Sure. This was one that I felt was you distancing, during that whole mechanical stuff. But you were also talking in parallel to Turin at that time. So sometimes it's hard to remember where on of you begins and the other ends. I also find these posts from you interesting. Can we please NOT try and use mechanics to determine who is Town and who is Mafia. There's so much going on and roles being passed around that really we should be going back to basics and just playing pure 'people' mafia. And I don't mean that garbage Bob is always Mafia stuff either. I guess the Coroner will make sure the right people are removed. So I'm guessing the Mafia peoples would rather keep their vote than be a treestump. But knowing that, the Town should also really keep their votes than be a treestump. And the coroner role is a pass along, so try and aim to target the Mafia with Final Death. Might mean something... might mean nothing. Could just mean another frame job in the works.

Yes, but remember, that was pretty much all of you here's only game with me, so you have no "meta" to work against. Just because I said something last game, doesn't mean it was all lies... dude.

Remember how I said last game. Sus the people, who sus those sussing me? If Shad is Sussing me. Who's sussing Shad right now? Hey... Look at that. It's heavy.

Ithillian Spammy. Posting Gifs. Feels like she's purposely Distracting and Distancing herself from Turing. Initially felt like she was trying to form town teams with Me and a few others. But then Immediately jumps like a Wolf on any player that makes anything that looks like a "slip" to gain town cred. Continues to post Gifs for "amusement". Feels like "Scum Hunting" but also feels "wolfy", but this might just be how Ithillian operates. I've only seen Ithillian operate as a wolf in one game, I haven't seen Ithillian hunt as a Town yet. Darthe - Well, He's dead now. so Irrelevant. Gudrean - Mostly N0 Spam. Turin - Repeating the same Game Mechanics speculation from games prior. Immediately went on the offensive with WIFOM as soon as I entered the chat. I haven't seen much from 'em since earlier. Looking to see what Turin posts again during D1. I'm getting some fishy Vibes off of Turin. Like Turin's not vibing like Town Turin from previous games. Shad_- Mostly spam, a few things on game mechanics. Nothing too AI to talk about. Dicetosser - Straight spam.... and Booze. I don't know if this is AI... or just being Australian at this point. Leelou - Similar to Shad, Mostly spam, a few things on game mechanics. Nothing to AI to talk about. Tigraine - Slank Spam. Peacesells - Started with some light spam. Migrated to accusations. Went to 3rd vote to move the game along. So.. Basically just replaying last game. Killing me D1 is just going to make town lose faster again Peace. Unless that's what you want this time? Heavy - Started with spam. Transitioned to light scum hunting. I haven't got a very good "town" vibe from Heavy all game. This is coming from Town!SD, not Mafia!SD... not that you'll believe me. Berf - Spam -> some mechanic talk. Nothing real AI really. Teph - Spam -> Started to get slightly serious. Accused me of distancing from Heavy. Feels like something a wolf would do. Has been known to put wolves in peoples gardens for fun.