I assumed it was implied. Of course idk who the actual player is.

This

I'll reveal my character if you want. I will not reveal my targets name. I have no clue if they know they're the target or not. I do not know the alignment of my target. So it's up to you all to decide. Revealing my target would tell one group the alignment of that target. If it's a townie, they lead a lynch. If it's scum, I die at night. You all let me know what you want to do

The goal was to get everyone to see that something wasn't right. Again, saying he had info that no one else had through the group's eyes. I "knew" he was lying of course it turned out he wasn't lying but it still wasn't info the whole group was given. I couldn't very well say any of that. So I drew attention to it as best as I could.

It's all in the post

First let me say, this sucks on a mobile device. @Ithillian Turambar I went back and searched for every post you made that mentioned me. (To get this to work for me properly, I had to click the desktop site things and that crap is really really small) anyway, I apologize. I think it may have been key that often took used quotes of mine from others quoting it in their posts and her general consensus seemed to go with what their interpretation was. (If it wasn't Key then I'm hallucinating and need to see psychiatric attention far greater than I'm receiving atp.) But after reading through those posts, I found multiple things I wanted to bring up. I quoted them but when I switched off the desktop settings, they poofed. I will go quote them (whichever ones you need me to, I just really hope you don't lol) First it was my fly by post that you found scummy. Then when I went over what all I had down, your problem was that it was more of a summary rather than casting shade on anyone. (These are my take on what you said, again, I can reluctantly go find them should I need to). I explained (it was later on that I explained this and quite possibly in response to someone else but it was the same principle) that I didn't have much in the way of scum or town leans based on fluff and that when I did get a scum lean, i voted. Iirc the first thing I actually found scummy was Rand at EoD. Now even though he flipped town, and doc at that, I STILL think his behavior was scummy. You know, i started working on this post past night and intended to go through chronologically, all the things you found scummy about me. But it's kinda pointless because I've explained and explained again, everything that was actually true from everyone. Yet somehow some of my questions never get answered. Like how anyone can say I agreed with everything DPR has said. I also think it's an unfair assessment to say I've spent the whole game, sitting on the fence and refusing to pick a side. When I've felt something was scummy, I went after that person hard, much to the detriment of everyone else and despite constantly being sussed for it. @DPR the thing is, I have moved past the Turin thing as far as trying to get you all to see that something isn't right about it. It keeps getting brought up because I have to repeatedly keep defending myself for it. I have spent the game scum hunting, but just because I do it differently or you don't agree with my assessments, I must be scum. So with all of that being said, I'm gonna go ahead and do my claim so you all have time to decide what you want to do about it. I'm not Mafia. I have no idea who is actually town and who isn't.....I'm the condemner. Funny story, Darthe sent my PM with all of the pertinent information about my role. Somehow, while reading it, I did not see the name of my target. It wasn't until the rl day after I read Turins post that I even realized that I was in fact given the information of the character I was looking for. So when I read Turin's post, I didn't know that so I knew I had caught him in a big lie because absolutely not, the condemner didn't know their target. But obviously I couldn't say that. After I realized that I did know who I was searching for, I still realized that it was NEVER confirmed for the group so I still think it's odd. I've given the options as I see them in regards to the whole thing but no one wanted to even remotely get to the bottom of it. So I let it go in game because it wasn't advancing the game. I My reads are just as blind as the rest of the town. As I said, I hunt differently from you all so you assume I'm doing nothing. There ya go. Do with it what you will. I have a couple of Dr's appointments so I'll be Mia for a few hours. Y'all have fun with that.

As I said, I defended Heavy in the whole "slip" debacle. When I voted Marsh because of the Turin thing? Is that when you're talking about? Because no one else found issue with the whole Turin thing and while i said I was still suspicious of it, it was doing no good to continue going on about it nor to have my vote somewhere when people were trying to reach concensus elsewhere. Apparently a lot of people find it sus and as trying to appear neutral to not vote and unvote multiple times...a lot of people have used that to say I seem to be trying to appear neutral. I just do not think voting people just to get reactions is a pro town move. Never have.

Ed claimed Harry Tasker. That's what you're thinking of

I do recall this now, thank you for that. I was genuinely asking why you thought I was sus. Not being a 🫏 I'm not sure I'm understanding this statement. It seems like you're implying that Marsh was a hot topic for everyone but I don't recall that. If you mean something else, Idk what it means. But Heavy was still high on my list which like Rand, it doesn't look good for me but I'm not going to deny how I felt at the time. See 2 posts above yours. Yes, you quoted quotes made by me but it always seemed to be in the context given by the person who quoted it. I have voted when I thought i found scum, and my unvotes were due to claims. Not once did I vote to run up a competing train (i don't think that's beneficial to town 🤷‍♀️) and I'll have to look back but I'm pretty sure I was sussed because I wouldn't vote for someone (for no reason) other than the person I had just unvoted. I don't think throwing votes around all willy nilly is beneficial for town. I was not around EoD 1. I was asleep. I won't apologize or defend myself for that. EoD 2 I was literally tied for the hammer on Ed, who had had already voted for but unvoted with his claim to give us time to figure it out....iirc, you did as well. EoD 3, I was under the impression that Heavy wanted to live so I was giving him time to say something if he wanted to say it. This would be a good point if I hadn't spent so much time sussing people for things I thought they had said or done wrong. I caught hell from most people for my sus of Rand and Turin but I never backed off those suspicions, even when EVERYONE was sussing me for it. Not such a good way to not be seen. I absolutely did not. Even though I was sus of Heavy, i defended him in that whole thing. So you have me confused with someone else there. Darthe told him it would be best not to mention character names? I completely missed the part where he said that. I was under the impression that was Turin's thought. That seems like a really weird thing for a mod to do as an impartial party...maybe I'm wrong 🤷‍♀️ But anyway, Darthe never confirmed telling Turin that or that the person knew the targets name. Unless it has something to do with Turin's specific role, the mod would have ZERO reason to give a player more information than he would give the entire group. When I come to the game, I don't start from the most recent point and work backwards like some people do. I cannot, it gets the timeline in my head screwed up and I do not like to do that. So I came in with that info when I was at the part about the Heavy "slip." That's why I was even reading what Turin said anyway. As for the slip, Turin had put in the post which talked about the clarification from the mod via PM that the condemner knew the character name of their target. When Darthe came to clear up everything about the role, he did not say the condemner knew the character name of their target. So I had to assume that Turin either misunderstood or purposely lied because again, I cannot see a mod giving one player that information while refusing to give it to everyone else unless it had something to do with their role.

On a side note, I don't think I've ever seen Terminator. I was getting it mixed up with Kindergarten Cop so I couldn't figure out why @Darthe had made him mafia. I take back all those unflattering things I said about you Darthe 😁

But Ed claimed some role that was a spy didn't he? Idk if they have anything to do with the cop or not. Which is my point. Him suggesting we not use character names in conjunction with something that we still don't know if it's true or not is what pinged as scummy. After realizing that 3p wouldn't warn against character names, it changed my view. Then it was no longer a "slip" it was, imo, misdirection. But it has been way easier to just say slip instead of having to spell it out literally every time someone quotes me because I literally have to explain and explain again the next time someone reads other peoples posts about what i said instead of actually reading the post for what i said.

@Ithillian Turambar riddle me this...that past times you've sussed me, it was based on the whole Turin thing...what was it before that made you sus me? It seems like every time I asked, you were using someone else's interpretation of what I had said and I constantly pointed out that they were missing the point but I don't recall you ever moving past that.

Yeah, I don't do busy work. But fair enough.

Idk, hence why I said maybe. Maybe it's because you're scum and knew he was town...I just don't know. It means you're problem solving enough to seem town. But at the same time, I feel like you're seeing something I'm not and therefore, holding back.

Correction, I have had a scum read on that role since I discovered the slip not since it first took place.

No, I have had a scum read on that role since the slip. Nothing Marsh has done has changed that. The thing about Heavy was actively going on, that's why I even saw what Turin said. Again, as I said, it made me think of 3p at first but didn't make sense with the suggested action or inaction of not revealing character names. Ruling Turin out as 3rd party but also feeling like he threw that piece about the condemner knowing who they're looking for when it was never confirmed in there for another reason. This led me down the path of him having some reason to not want to have to reveal his character names. Since our claimed cop hasn't been able to get a read, I wondered if there was more to Turin suggesting this. Which in summary means it wasn't about the 3p....it was about Mafia.

I was completely aware of the vote count but I just don't like to hammer when there's some time left if we haven't heard from the person. I tots missed his post so I was waiting him out. Maybe it would be more fair to say that nothing you've said has stuck out to me in a way that had cleared your role up in my mind

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So I'm gonna go ahead and Vote: Key. for rhe reasons I stated.

Oh my list didn't include my thoughts on Ithi, pretty sure i just responded to her. Honestly early on I had a scum lean on her. I felt like she was purposely being obtuse about things I had said and points I had made. But, despite her suss on me, I'm more on the town side of the fence with her. She's put in some solid effort and been actively engaging in trying to problem solve since beginning of Day 3 I think.

Yes in this instance I'm talking about others' feels on you. Hearing you're definitely town so much put some rose colored glasses on it. However, I have sussed you some. You've been a scum lean for me. You've been helpful but as with verbal it seems to be lacking imo. But with rl and the rose colored glasses, I haven't pursued it further to see what, if anything, can be found. Now this day phase I feel like I can't trust my own gut so I was hoping to get some new perspective on you.

Honestly, it was in the middle of the whole DPR claiming Heavy revealed something that he knew before it was confirmed for us. Despite my sus on Heavy, I wasn't seeing how what he said was any indication of anything we didn't know. It was literally based on the placement of the word "random." I went down that rabbit hole and that's when I found something that Turin said that wasn't ever confirmed, even to this point, so at first I thought it meant he was the 3p but then I think Nyn pointed out the part of Turin saying we shouldn't reveal character names and that made no sense if he was 3p. So I felt he had to have another reason for telling us something that definite without a reason. I mean, it is what it is. Nothing could be solved because you took his place without receiving what he had received (the clarification pm) so I had no choice but to sideline it. Especially since I don't feel you've put in a whole lot of effort to go after anyone or to stand up for anyone so I have no new info to build my POV on.

@keyholder21 I cannot read you. I feel like every time you post and engage it leaves something to be desired. I get that life is in the way, believe me, I just don't like that on D4 you're still kinda null. It makes me think that it'd be really easy to hide in that type of setup of yourself so I'm trying to read back through your interactions to see what, if anything, stands out. I do know that there was a thing or two that you sussed me on based on someone else's sus of what I said and you done so without context so it feels like you're going through the motions. Oh, I broke my foot trying to DM and walk...stepped on a piece of giant chalk and that's all she wrote for me. @Verbal32 you are a bit of a conundrum for me. I feel like you're putting in real problem-solving effort but kinda like you're holding back. You've been pretty sure that the mislynches were mislynches before they resulted in lynches so I feel like you're seeing something I'm not. Maybe that's because you are the cop and didn't want to claim nor say definitely that so and so wasn't scum. But the big thing that has me stumped is why they haven't NK'D you. You've not caused tons of chaos or distraction so keeping you around doesn't seem like a smart plan for scum. So that leaves me very wary of you. Rn, gth, I'd go for Key because I feel like if she is town then the information we'd get from her death would be more beneficial...especially due to your presence on the Marsh mislynch and lack of availability to the game.