Sorry I thought I had. Hang on

And ftr, I'm getting ready to play PvZ Battle for Neighborville with my son but I'll check in between games but if something requires a longish response, it may take a few to get it submitted

@DPR @HeavyHalfMoonBlade @Nynaeve Why are your thoughts in regards to Turin's slip? Or is there something I'm blatantly missing?

That turned into such a disaster. But it was fun before that 🤣 Oh, no worries. He's being all hypocritical and misrepresenting stuff I've said since I'm on most people's sus list with him and he wants to help build the case against me. I just find it slightly amusing that he's using a tactic that he's whined about others using on him. Nyn, I know you've responded before the actual writing of this post but if I refresh the page, I will lose what I've typed here lol I just wanted that noted in case you're asking me something

You said I was after Rand because he saved the unCCd cop. That is false. So yes you were wrong. I've explained numerous times my entire reasoning for thinking his actions scummy...including quotes from myself as well as others that mentioned the same things. That's what you do when you think someone is scummy and you want to prove that. You don't just refuse and expect everyone to jump on board with your ideas (but that's a different subject matter completely) and throw up your hands when they don't agree with you (also a different subject matter) Right now I believe you've seen that everyone else is down between you and I as scum so you're trying to make it look like me going after Rand (which as I stated doesn't help my case since he was doc) is scummy. But you need to do better than point out incorrect assumptions which I have clarified and to point out that I went after the unclaimed doc at EoD which I myself have already pointed out. Do better

@DPRand in response to this... we had planned to leave hillbilly days at around 9 but then got caught in a torrential downpour while my 6 and 8 years old daughter we on flying elephants. My 17 years old son and nephew were hiding from the rain (not at our designated meeting spot) so I spent a literal 2 hours trudging up and down streets that had potholes so bad that the puddles went almost to my knees while they stayed dry and my girls were hiding out now on the merry go round with my dad. We live in a rinkydink town with pathetic cell service and since so many people were on the same tower, cell phones were not working. Got home a little after 2 am by the time I stopped to feed the little monsters and after wringing out my clothes and finding dry ones, I passed out. Slept longer than I have in 19 years and got on here as soon as I woke. But I actually read everyone's posts so it takes me a bit to read. Just letting yall know why I haven't been here. I saw nothing that disproves my point. I looked but didn't see a part that says he told Turin separately that the Condemner knew the name of his target.

I feel your pain. This is difficult on a mobile device.

This is what ended up on the OP eventually concerning the role. This was included in Turin's explanation he supposedly received from Darthe. It doesn't appear in what Darthe explained about the role. Seems like someone really did know more about the role than everyone else. So did Darthe accidentally slip info to a player via PM about a role that wasn't theirs or did the condemner actually out themselves. Unless I missed it, Darthe didn't confirm that he sent a separate PM to Turin, he just clarified the role. Was it Ironeyes that replaced Turin? vote ironeyes The person you replaced slipped up. 🤷‍♀️

I'm so confused. @DPR are you saying because he said "randomly picks a target" that it was knowing more than we knew or that because he knew the condemner would be picking a NK instead of the lynch that it was too much info? Because if it's the first, I disagree because just because the word "random or randomly" was used, it wasn't the same specific use of the condemner info on OP. Or even in the description give by Darthe later. If it's the 2nd part then yeah that's something that definitely makes it sus....if the Night target wasn't something originally stated in the OP. And since it was a modified role for this game.

Not trying to speak for her and she may have already responded in the later pages that I haven't made it through but if memory serves, someone was either listed on with 2 different votes or were listed as voting for someone as well as in the not voting section. Listen, I'm sus on Heavy as well but you guys are kinda switching this up. He didn't say the condemner was picking a player randomly selected at the beginning of game. He was saying the condemner randomly selects a target at night. That's not the same thing.

It's strange to see you call someone out for doing exactly what you've done to me but whatever Yeah I haven't seen it either. Ed is the one who told me about the game. Hadn't talked to him in awhile and he messaged me on Facebook telling me something along the lines of there was a game with some old school players and it was filling up fast to get my hillbilly @$$ over here lol I was almost always greeted hello in games by him voting for me. And that's how I took it. Ngl, DPR claiming to stir the pot to draw a NK doesn't make sense. Mafia doesn't want to NK people who cause chaos or looks scummy because it's easier for them to hide in a group of people that do that. Just like it's unlikely for them to NK someone who a lot of people find sus unless they suspect a power role in that person. Why use their kill to take out someone the group is likely to do the next day? @HeavyHalfMoonBlade it's misleading to say I Sussed you because you wouldn't follow Zander or whatever you said. I just thought that someone asking you to point out where they done what you said they done or to elaborate on your reads was pretty standard and not responding with evidence as not so standard for town. THAT is why I sussed you on it. Add to that your hypocritical "people misrepresent my posts" while misrepresenting someone's post and yeah...that's pretty scummy to me. @Ithillian Turambar I don't recall if it was you that I responded to but putting me into someone who tries to remain neutral is in fact a misrepresentation of my posts and I've responded in regards to the reasoning for having only found a few people that I found scummy. When I did feel hard core about someone being scummy, I went after them. Yes the first one I went all-out Ober has now even confirmed to be the doc so it admittedly doesn't look good on my behalf but th÷ whole interaction was hardly me remaining neutral. As for my unwillingness to point out other people that look scummy it's because almost everyone does to me. The reasoning, as stated in my response to someone else in regards to this matter, is because more than a few have misquoted and misrepresented stuff I've said. I encouraged people to reread and see what I'm talking about. I am trying to sort through who is doing it on purpose and who is doing it because they're lazy and only skim reading, therefore only catching the misquotes and misreps. @dicetosser1, it was you who I've asked multiple times to tell me where I flip flopped and might have been you that said I agreed with everything DPR said. Yet I still haven't gotten that. It's another WoT and I'm sorry for that but I'm trying to do my catch up and am responding page by page. These are in response to page 91 of 98 so that's where I've made it to so far.

Okay guys, I'm out. Let's go burn up and spend way too much money 🤦‍♀️

Because it isn't the whole story.

No, I'm not taking it personal. Like I said, it is what it is. Thanks for the clarity on the condemner. Am I misremembering someone saying that about names though? Okay, like I said, I won't be back on before deadline so I'm gonna say what I gotta say... A lot of people have me on the sus list and that's fine. However, almost everyone that has listed reasons, have used misquoted or misrepresented reasons. If you read back over it, you will see I'm not wrong. Heavy? (I think, don't have time to look back) said I defended DPR (which now with his roleclaim, it might make the issue a moot point idk) but I asked for him/them to show me where that happened but I never saw that response (maybe I missed it) I also thought it was odd (and I mentioned it at the time) that Heavy refused to give a reason as to why he gave a sus read on someone else. Why would you not want to prove your point? So Heavy is by far the top of my list based on these things. I asked Dice what he thought I flip flopped on but I didn't see a response (maybe I missed it as well). I'm not necessarily saying this is sus, just that it's odd to me that someone wouldn't want to show their work. As for anyone else, I'm not going to lie, it's hard for me to set aside all the misquoted or misrepresented stuff that's being thrown out about me. It has seemed to happen just enough that everyone is taking those quotes and representations and using them to pile on thing after thing which they're calling sus. But if you look back at the things you have mentioned, you'll see I'm not wrong. Honestly, the mafia would be idiots to waste a NK on me because I'm on most people's sus list. They can kill (or attempt to kill) a different townie then leave me on the Chopping block for tomorrow. As I've said, you all are gonna see what you wanna see and believe what you want to believe but if you actually read the things I've said and compare them to the things people have said or implied I said, you'll see why its hard for me to pinpoint one between you that's scum because you're all doing the work for them. So Heavy is my number one for reasons stated above. But I'm not real sure who I'd place number two, also for reasons stated above.

I voted the same time as Verb. His came through first. I've quoted it a couple times because he said his showed it was a full minute before mine but they came through together. Probably doesn't matter but again, I want to point out when something is misrepresented. I think this is.

Isn't the 3p looking for a specific name? Was it Turin or Ithi (could be wrong on who exactly) that said we should probably not give names as that would help the 3p?

This is an odd statement to me. I had voted Ed. Then I unvoted when he claimed just to be safe until it was sorted. I didn't automatically Jump on another train (which someone called me out for like it was scummy but I honestly cannot see how) but then was responding to...something when the big slip happened so it took me a minute to see it. Didn't you unvote when he claimed as well? You said my reads weren't really reads....but as I've explained, the first time someone really pinged, I said it. Otherwise I was just making comments about others game play to see if anything stood out to anyone else as I haven't played in awhile and haven't played with some of the players at all. I've seen more than one person comment about this being like old school games so, in my mind, that means people play differently now. I didn't want to go full on accusations just because someone plays differently than I was used to. But I have been giving reads and reasons for those reads all of D2. Yet you've not added anything to your reasoning. That's what has had me curious.

I've already told yall that I fell asleep. It sucks that I wasn't here to give input before DL but it is what it is. As for the train on Ed, Verb and I literally voted at the same time. His came in before mine though so he was the hammer. As soon as I saw .... someone (don't recall which specifically caught it first) I voted him. But I was here and actively participating.

It does. Thank you I'm only on pg 78 in my catch up so I'll probably have more to say before it's done but I'm gonna see what I see. Again, I want to remind everyone, I'm not gonna be on again until tonight. This town never has anything worth a crap to do so we get all excited when the carnival comes to town. Lol

Irrelevant since there isn't one in this game, apparently, but what is a bus driver? I don't recall that role in any game I played (it may have been, I just don't remember it)

There literally isn't

Check the times...me and verb voted at the same time. Or at least when I posted it said just now and that his was just now.

That was a good catch

vote ed