[Basic]What's the theme? - ad lib mafia

[Darthe]

  On 1/30/2017 at 9:50 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

I should have gotten that :/

 

And that's basically the reason for no lynch. That we are divided. That scum should have to narrow the pool first. That who they choose to kill (and by extension keep alive) should be telling.

In what world would they not just no kill again tonight? Its what id do.

[Darthe]

Verb can you list your dad's? You seem definitive but I can't figure where you're at with everyone

[Darthe]

  On 1/31/2017 at 5:52 AM, Ironeyes said:

Null: Everyone

 

Hating my life: Ironeyes

What are you doing?

[Darthe]

  On 1/31/2017 at 3:23 PM, Ironeyes said:

OK, so who's left? We have:

 

Andrej--Has been towny all game, despite leading several mislynches. Not very likely to vote here since we have much more scummy candidates.

Niniel--I agree with Eldrick that lynching her would get us next to no information. Also not likely to vote here today. Doesn't mean I still think she's town though.

Eldrick--Seems to change his alignment in my eyes about every other page. Also has been on all the mislynches as well. Somewhat willing to vote here.

Darthe--I originally felt very confident in my town read of him, but I'm now tinfoiling based on a) his timing in showing up just after two mislynches, and b) possible TMI. About as willing to vote here as Eldrick.

Verbal--I don't even know any more. I could totally see him as scum sitting back and letting us rip ourselves to pieces, but he could also be town trying to save us from ourselves, like Darthe claims to be. These two are becoming more and more similar as the game goes on.

 

That's my look at everyone individually. But we know there are two of them left, so here's an overview of possible teams I see.

 

Niniel + Eldrick: If I were scum, I'd have one person out in the ring sowing chaos and another sitting quietly. I am aware that this means I'm sussing Nin for something I am myself doing; yeah, I'm a hypocrite. But El has also been town reading her, and otherwise not wanting to lynch her.

 

Eldrick + Darthe: I know this has been rehashed before, but I could see Darthe's tunnel early game as distancing with a side benefit of removing himself from the rest of the discussion (and therefore the blame for early mislynches).

 

Darthe + Verbal: Like I said, they seem to be becoming more similar. Not active regularly but coming in periodically to comment and having the same "I'm town and here to rescue you all from your dumb choices" mentality.

Theres no part of your reads that I liked. You associate me with eldrick and verb, but dont really have any different read on me than them. You have a throwaway on nin and brushed off AJs everything because he sounds good.

 

Revise this and come back with it, considering the fact thatI am town. I think youll see a very different game.

[Darthe]

  On 1/31/2017 at 10:10 AM, Niniel said:

For once I wish I had more to read when I wak up. :(

 

I had hoped someone would point to something that I hadn´t seen yet.

 

 

As I have already said, I wish at least one of Verb, Eld or Marsh is mafia. I don´t think AJ and Darthe could be mafia together so it´s a big chance I´m right about that, right? It´s hard with Marsh because he hasn´t been here much. I don´t think that I can blindly trust Darthe´s oppinion of him. He could be wrong. Or they could be mafia together. My vote was on Verb for two days and it looked like he would get lynched, but he never was. His posts after that have been pretty neutral. Don´t know what to make of that. Eldrick flip-flopping seems to have come to an end today. *sigh* I´m kind of dependent on reacting to others thoughts.

 

About no lynch - so you think it will be easier if we are one less townie tomorrow? It sounds backwards to me. If we can´t agree for a lynch today then it will be even easier for mafia to manipulate us tomorrow, isn´t it?

This is a good post, shows thoughtfulness from someone who shouldnt have a great grasp on the game.

[Darthe]

Theres a post I remember from bop that applies here, and he died that day too iirc.

[Darthe]

Idk where to find it rn since im at lunch, but he said if AJ made it to endgame lynch him. Then I think he wifomed it some, but it holds true.

 

Why is he alive iyo's? This should all make sense.

[Verbal32]

  On 1/31/2017 at 3:23 PM, Ironeyes said:

OK, so who's left? We have: 

 

Andrej--Has been towny all game, despite leading several mislynches. Not very likely to vote here since we have much more scummy candidates. 

Niniel--I agree with Eldrick that lynching her would get us next to no information. Also not likely to vote here today. Doesn't mean I still think she's town though. 

Eldrick--Seems to change his alignment in my eyes about every other page. Also has been on all the mislynches as well. Somewhat willing to vote here. 

Darthe--I originally felt very confident in my town read of him, but I'm now tinfoiling based on a) his timing in showing up just after two mislynches, and b) possible TMI. About as willing to vote here as Eldrick. 

Verbal--I don't even know any more. I could totally see him as scum sitting back and letting us rip ourselves to pieces, but he could also be town trying to save us from ourselves, like Darthe claims to be. These two are becoming more and more similar as the game goes on. 

 

That's my look at everyone individually. But we know there are two of them left, so here's an overview of possible teams I see. 

 

Niniel + Eldrick: If I were scum, I'd have one person out in the ring sowing chaos and another sitting quietly. I am aware that this means I'm sussing Nin for something I am myself doing; yeah, I'm a hypocrite. But El has also been town reading her, and otherwise not wanting to lynch her. 

 

Eldrick + Darthe: I know this has been rehashed before, but I could see Darthe's tunnel early game as distancing with a side benefit of removing himself from the rest of the discussion (and therefore the blame for early mislynches). 

 

Darthe + Verbal: Like I said, they seem to be becoming more similar. Not active regularly but coming in periodically to comment and having the same "I'm town and here to rescue you all from your dumb choices" mentality. 

 

Are you for real with this?  First of all, there's been no "sitting back" from me.  You might not want to throw stones from that glass house.

 

Secondly, I've done nothing of the bold.  Not active regularly?  Dude, you've been barely active at all since D1.  And I'm certainly not doing the condescending attitude that Darthe was tossing around.

 

If you plan on misrepping me, it might not be an awesome idea to piss me off at the same time.

Holy hell I can't believe you clicked post on that mess.

[Verbal32]

  On 1/31/2017 at 4:16 PM, Darthe said:

I dont buy that eldrick waffles this much, is on every lynch, and then once he settles on a correct path after reassessing he reverts back to the same logic that has been wrong all game within a matter of pages.

 

You really think Eldrick would go all emo and say he should break the rules to get modkilled, and then even self vote.....all if he was scum?  That would be the cheapest win I've ever seen, and I've been around for a lot of games over the years.

 

I don't see Eldrick ever being ok with that kind of win.  Those are real frustrations he had, and it probably comes from a townie POV.  Like I said at the time, I don't see anybody in this game opting for a cheesy win.

[Verbal32]

  On 1/31/2017 at 1:53 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 1/30/2017 at 9:54 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

While you bring the topic up, why did you vote me because of my response to darthe? While it's null for him specifically, it still felt like role fishing.

 

I didn't comment on it because I felt the vote was absurd and not worth mentioning. But you still feel that way so I would like to know your side of it.

 

I did not see it as role fishing.  IMO, your reaction was the one that was absurd.  If Darthe is scum, it is not because of that - what you would have done there if he does end up scum is called "blind squirreling".

 

(i.e. being right for the wrong reason)

 

 

 

 

  On 1/30/2017 at 9:56 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

I also stand by the feeling that AJ voting darthe instead of nolder could be accidental slip. Especially if he was tired. Yes darthe's name was on his mind which is why he said it instead, but it could very easily have been because he was talking to him on qt. I've seen that slip happen before, heck I've done it myself.

 

You already answered this - it could be either.  Hence:  NULL.

 

 

 

 

  On 1/30/2017 at 9:58 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

I hate that these things were not only dismissed outright, but also classified as jumpy. It's these kind of things that are how I catch scum.

 

You'll have to show me where that actually worked, because I don't believe it.  They were classified as jumpy because they were exactly that, Eldrick.

 

 

lolme defending the 2 people I think have a scum within them

[Verbal32]

  On 1/31/2017 at 3:23 PM, Ironeyes said:

OK, so who's left? We have: 

 

Andrej--Has been towny all game, despite leading several mislynches. Not very likely to vote here since we have much more scummy candidates. 

Niniel--I agree with Eldrick that lynching her would get us next to no information. Also not likely to vote here today. Doesn't mean I still think she's town though. 

Eldrick--Seems to change his alignment in my eyes about every other page. Also has been on all the mislynches as well. Somewhat willing to vote here. 

Darthe--I originally felt very confident in my town read of him, but I'm now tinfoiling based on a) his timing in showing up just after two mislynches, and b) possible TMI. About as willing to vote here as Eldrick. 

Verbal--I don't even know any more. I could totally see him as scum sitting back and letting us rip ourselves to pieces, but he could also be town trying to save us from ourselves, like Darthe claims to be. These two are becoming more and more similar as the game goes on. 

 

That's my look at everyone individually. But we know there are two of them left, so here's an overview of possible teams I see. 

 

Niniel + Eldrick: If I were scum, I'd have one person out in the ring sowing chaos and another sitting quietly. I am aware that this means I'm sussing Nin for something I am myself doing; yeah, I'm a hypocrite. But El has also been town reading her, and otherwise not wanting to lynch her. 

 

Eldrick + Darthe: I know this has been rehashed before, but I could see Darthe's tunnel early game as distancing with a side benefit of removing himself from the rest of the discussion (and therefore the blame for early mislynches). 

 

Darthe + Verbal: Like I said, they seem to be becoming more similar. Not active regularly but coming in periodically to comment and having the same "I'm town and here to rescue you all from your dumb choices" mentality. 

 

I also don't understand this bold - why are we talking about gaining information when the next mislynch means game over?

[Verbal32]

~ 5 hours left, and we have half the living players posting once or twice the whole phase

 

 

awesome

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

No lynch (1): Eldrick,

 

Not voting (5): Ironeyes, Verbal, AJ, Niniel, Darthe 

 

4 to lynch

 

EOD4 in: 

[Darthe]

  On 1/31/2017 at 5:51 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 1/31/2017 at 4:16 PM, Darthe said:

I dont buy that eldrick waffles this much, is on every lynch, and then once he settles on a correct path after reassessing he reverts back to the same logic that has been wrong all game within a matter of pages.

You really think Eldrick would go all emo and say he should break the rules to get modkilled, and then even self vote.....all if he was scum? That would be the cheapest win I've ever seen, and I've been around for a lot of games over the years.

 

I don't see Eldrick ever being ok with that kind of win. Those are real frustrations he had, and it probably comes from a townie POV. Like I said at the time, I don't see anybody in this game opting for a cheesy win.

No, I was being frustrated

[Niniel]

  On 1/31/2017 at 4:47 PM, Darthe said:

Idk where to find it rn since im at lunch, but he said if AJ made it to endgame lynch him. Then I think he wifomed it some, but it holds true.

 

Why is he alive iyo's? This should all make sense.

 

I remember this post and I´m  starting to wonder this myself. I didn´t like when Verb brought it up earlier but now that we are closer to the end, it´s a good question. 

 

 

I really don´t like taking decisions. 

 

 

@Verb - I don´t see Eldrick´s selfvote as something townie. He unvoted not long after. I think he was genuinly upset though. 

[Niniel]

Okay, so I´m not sure about this at all but dl is approaching and I´m going to bed. 

 

 

[v] Eldrick [/v]

 

 

For the same reasons as I voted him yesterday. In short: jumping back and forth and has been on every mislynch. 

[Verbal32]

Whoa, if he is town and the phase ends with a coinflip, this could lose the game.

[Verbal32]

Tina prob not scum - I don't see scum actively trying to force a lynch when they can just sit back and play patty cake with the town.

 

fwiw

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

No lynch (1): Eldrick,

 

Eldrick (1): Niniel

 

Not voting (4): Ironeyes, Verbal, AJ, Darthe 

 

4 to lynch

 

EOD4 in: 

[Verbal32]

Problem is, I think Eldrick is prob town as well for multiple reasons already stated.  Bleh, I'm not willing to lynch a town read (obv).

 

[v]No Lynch[/v]

[Verbal32]

Sorry for the ninja vote, Sooh!

[Verbal32]

  On 1/31/2017 at 8:31 PM, Niniel said:

 

  On 1/31/2017 at 4:47 PM, Darthe said:

Idk where to find it rn since im at lunch, but he said if AJ made it to endgame lynch him. Then I think he wifomed it some, but it holds true.

 

Why is he alive iyo's? This should all make sense.

 

I remember this post and I´m  starting to wonder this myself. I didn´t like when Verb brought it up earlier but now that we are closer to the end, it´s a good question. 

 

 

I really don´t like taking decisions. 

 

 

@Verb - I don´t see Eldrick´s selfvote as something townie. He unvoted not long after. I think he was genuinly upset though. 

 

 

Of course you didn't.

 

/s

[Sooh]

I've got nothing else to do, Verb

 

Vote count:

 

No lynch (2): Eldrick, Verbal

 

Eldrick (1): Niniel

 

Not voting (3): Ironeyes, AJ, Darthe 

 

4 to lynch

 

EOD4 in: 

[Verbal32]

Ok, I'm off until tomorrow, so I'll miss exact DL.

 

Let's not lynch anybody today, as we clearly can't agree.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/31/2017 at 6:03 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

  On 1/31/2017 at 3:23 PM, Ironeyes said:

OK, so who's left? We have:

 

Andrej--Has been towny all game, despite leading several mislynches. Not very likely to vote here since we have much more scummy candidates.

Niniel--I agree with Eldrick that lynching her would get us next to no information. Also not likely to vote here today. Doesn't mean I still think she's town though.

Eldrick--Seems to change his alignment in my eyes about every other page. Also has been on all the mislynches as well. Somewhat willing to vote here.

Darthe--I originally felt very confident in my town read of him, but I'm now tinfoiling based on a) his timing in showing up just after two mislynches, and b) possible TMI. About as willing to vote here as Eldrick.

Verbal--I don't even know any more. I could totally see him as scum sitting back and letting us rip ourselves to pieces, but he could also be town trying to save us from ourselves, like Darthe claims to be. These two are becoming more and more similar as the game goes on.

 

That's my look at everyone individually. But we know there are two of them left, so here's an overview of possible teams I see.

 

Niniel + Eldrick: If I were scum, I'd have one person out in the ring sowing chaos and another sitting quietly. I am aware that this means I'm sussing Nin for something I am myself doing; yeah, I'm a hypocrite. But El has also been town reading her, and otherwise not wanting to lynch her.

 

Eldrick + Darthe: I know this has been rehashed before, but I could see Darthe's tunnel early game as distancing with a side benefit of removing himself from the rest of the discussion (and therefore the blame for early mislynches).

 

Darthe + Verbal: Like I said, they seem to be becoming more similar. Not active regularly but coming in periodically to comment and having the same "I'm town and here to rescue you all from your dumb choices" mentality.

I also don't understand this bold - why are we talking about gaining information when the next mislynch means game over?

My point, the point Marsh is agreeing with, is that because Nini hasn't really interacted with anyone, if she flips scum we aren't any closer to finding the 3rd one.

 

It's not a phenomenal reason. It's still a scum lynch, and it's not like we are close to figuring it out now.