[Basic]What's the theme? - ad lib mafia

[Verbal32]

I did not town read AJ - as a matter of fact, we seem to have passed each other in that he's feeling better about me as time goes on and I'm becoming more and more nervous about him.

 

That said, I'm not ready to lynch him right now.  I think I'd prefer Marsh.  This whole "ignoring me" thing is a scum ploy to show engagement and the lack of another's, and it is pure BS.

 

 

 

I'm open to discussion, though.  I don't think I want to lynch AJ or Eldrick today, but I'd be willing to discuss anybody else, with a preference for Marsh.

[Verbal32]

@MrsClov - my bad on doubting you, I was simply wrong.  I thought you were too clean, and it clouded my judgement - I wasted time in trying to figure you out instead of just trusting the whole of your play.

 

:-(

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

AJ (1): Dice

 

Not voting (7): AJ, Eldrick, Ironeyes, Darthe, Niniel, Verbal

 

 

 

 

 

EOD4 in: 

 

REMINDER! In the event of a hammer, the game will progress into night phase!

[Andrej]

Everybody laying low or what?

[Darthe]

  On 1/26/2017 at 10:45 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 5:14 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 3:14 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 2:54 AM, Darthe said:

Off train im led straight to nin, doubly so if eldricks a wolf. If he flips town (he wont, but just say he does), verbs outted by proxy and prob mrs clov with him, though one could argue for dice fitting in, despite whats definitely a stronger early game than wolf dice usually has.

Verb prob should have died today.

Explain your thinking there please.

So after I flip town if you guys lynch me it's in writing.

Im not a wolf and I dont see both wolves jumping on a lylo bandwagon considering this game, so I looked at the off train players, knew that I was town, and im aware that I vastly think you more likely to be a wolf than the others on wagon. Your inverse links to verb where youve wanted interaction and pressure and have tossed out lines like that "lynch me tomorrow" one say that you're using verb, and he seems to be taking that slow, so id bet youre never on a team with him. Moreover, dice has disappeared and mrs clov has been clean by and large. I dont quite know how they fit, but I know that AJ doesnt unless you or nin are wolves because again, I am looking with the assumption that we have one wolf on and one off.

That leaves marsh as the odd man out, but ive not quite made it there yet and I think my aj read still needs fleshed out.

Ok. Gonna try to tackle this. I wanted more information from you on your think of "if I flip town, it's verb by proxy, and mrsclov as well" you threw dice's name onto that list as well, but not with very much conviction.

 

That you are even showing signs that you're wrong about me is a really good sign. In our last game together to stuck to your scum read of me all game and wouldn't budge or reconsider for anything.

 

I agree that it's very likely that there's one scum on train and one off. I'm not the one on, but this post needs to be remembered later. It's a really good one.

 

Now then, to be more precise in my question, once I flip town, why does that condemn verb and mrsclov?

Post flip obviously im at least partly wrong, but what I was seeing was her ignoring verb a bit as he did this push that didnt read to me as intended to succeed. I think verb-you not being w/wis pretty well started across the thread but if it is verb or you right now I think I need to reassess other players before committing to even those read.

[Darthe]

  On 1/26/2017 at 10:53 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

AJ and Darthe are both right.

 

Darthe hasn't been involved in any of the lynches. D2 despite having an acceptable reason (happy belated birthday) doesn't change the fact he was inactive. half the game was though, so /shrug.

 

He hasn't provided as much game solve as several other players. His presence overall is much lower than expected, even if you don't count the D2 gap. AJ's points are very valid.

 

 

But the list Darthe gave of the things he's done this game is also on point. When he's here, he's contributing. It's not just background input.

This is true and actually isnt fencesitting, it just looks like you dont have a dog in the argument.

[Darthe]

  On 1/27/2017 at 2:28 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

with that in mind, going for darthe or marsh today for a 2/3 chance of hitting the right team.

Aaand you're back on my bad side.

[Darthe]

  On 1/27/2017 at 2:36 AM, Andrej said:

I don't think it's Verb.

 

I think there's a decent chance of scum being within Marsh/Nini. Both have been stuck on Verb for two Days and both stayed off the Hallia wagon.

 

I don't like how Dice has been soft sussing me all game. It's been happening since D1 with his "AJ should read me better" line to "I can't read him as well as I used to" to "he doesn't have the same bite I expect" from this past Night. You can either read or you can't bro, pick one.

 

Darthe could be scum too. His alignment sort of hinges on yours tbh but this fight feels Hackers-esq where he wants you dead and badly.

When you give a dog a bone he chews it. Im still covering everything, and this misrep is growing beyond thin from you.

[Darthe]

From the last three pages im on aj/eldrick as the wolf team. Aj has saved his ass all game and now they suddenly are mimicking a read on me. The top of 84 is super disingenuous

[Darthe]

  On 1/27/2017 at 2:47 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 1/27/2017 at 11:04 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 1/27/2017 at 2:36 AM, Andrej said:

I don't think it's Verb.

 

I think there's a decent chance of scum being within Marsh/Nini. Both have been stuck on Verb for two Days and both stayed off the Hallia wagon.

 

I don't like how Dice has been soft sussing me all game. It's been happening since D1 with his "AJ should read me better" line to "I can't read him as well as I used to" to "he doesn't have the same bite I expect" from this past Night. You can either read or you can't bro, pick one.

 

Darthe could be scum too. His alignment sort of hinges on yours tbh but this fight feels Hackers-esq where he wants you dead and badly.

ive been pretty open about it but if you want a hard sus?

 

voteAJ

Youre a wolf

Lol [v] aj [/v] this really is it. Thats beautifully overextended =)

[Darthe]

  On 1/27/2017 at 3:43 PM, Verbal32 said:

I did not town read AJ - as a matter of fact, we seem to have passed each other in that he's feeling better about me as time goes on and I'm becoming more and more nervous about him.

 

That said, I'm not ready to lynch him right now. I think I'd prefer Marsh. This whole "ignoring me" thing is a scum ploy to show engagement and the lack of another's, and it is pure BS.

 

 

 

I'm open to discussion, though. I don't think I want to lynch AJ or Eldrick today, but I'd be willing to discuss anybody else, with a preference for Marsh.

The only two you dont want to lynch are the two both pushing for my head (ask them for factual reasons btw, that should be a good read). You're voting with them or against them, that should be obvious.

[Andrej]

What have I said that's untrue or a misrep? You wanna talk about facts then show some work.

 

I'm flipping Town so I hope you're ready to change your story up.

[Andrej]

Your "covering everything" is really just sowing division. You are throwing out every possible angle you can to maintain a suspicion on as many remaining slots as possible.

 

A hard line needs to be drawn in the sand.

 

There's people you do or don't want to lynch as this point. No wiggle room. Commit to something

[Darthe]

No story to change. Youve said my only focus is eldrick and that im on the sidelines. Neither are true. I missed a day, and ive had a strong target, but I also was here all the other days and did a lot of work.

 

You dont have anything real on me except that you dont have suspects, and you cant back off the eldrick read after Youre this committed.

 

My play makes sense, and my progress is plastered through this thread. What about you? Dice didnt matter to you until recently and once he did he did what dice does and defended himself. AJ isnt some scrub, he knows what makes a townie dice, and theres the misplay. You killed your cover last night, backed the easiest mislynch from your PoE today, then botched an easy read with some reactive bs and now you are mad.

 

Ergo, I see pretty clearly wolf AJ right now.

[Darthe]

  On 1/27/2017 at 5:29 PM, Andrej said:

Your "covering everything" is really just sowing division. You are throwing out every possible angle you can to maintain a suspicion on as many remaining slots as possible.

 

A hard line needs to be drawn in the sand.

 

There's people you do or don't want to lynch as this point. No wiggle room. Commit to something

You mean commit to something you want to see. Im pretty damn committed to my reads, have been for days, but you flame or blow offf them every chance you get scum.

 

 

Marsh town

Verb town

Nin town

 

Dice slight town

 

Eldrick wolf

Aj wolf

[Darthe]

You may want to case me before I'm free today. See you in six hours.

[Andrej]

I've stated pretty clearly where I'm at. Dice had consistently been sniping at me through the game and I guess he figured now is as good a time as ever to finally commit to it now that the deep wolf narrative has taken hold. You're giving him way too much credit for an omgus style vote. The one thing that stands out the most for me with Dice is his switch from Eldrick to Lenlo last phase, even if he believed the wagons were tied. He went from a 50% chance to lynch his scum target to a 0% when he moved over. That is uncharacteristic imo.

 

Like I said already your sustained smearing on Eldrick looks exactly how it did in Hackers where you carried him all the way to F3 in the hopes someone would follow. I get it, he's an easy target and if I was a wolf I could've had him D1 for his bad pushes or D3 when he was one of the final wagons.

 

Your only real argument is that I started the MLs wagons on the last two Days which is understandable and I take responsibility for it. We don't lose if I go here and if that's necessary than so be it but you're gonna look pretty dirty afterwards and it will be entertaining to see how you justify it after the fact. If I have protected anyone it's because I don't believe they are a wolf

[Verbal32]

  On 1/27/2017 at 5:19 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/27/2017 at 3:43 PM, Verbal32 said:

I did not town read AJ - as a matter of fact, we seem to have passed each other in that he's feeling better about me as time goes on and I'm becoming more and more nervous about him.

 

That said, I'm not ready to lynch him right now. I think I'd prefer Marsh. This whole "ignoring me" thing is a scum ploy to show engagement and the lack of another's, and it is pure BS.

 

 

 

I'm open to discussion, though. I don't think I want to lynch AJ or Eldrick today, but I'd be willing to discuss anybody else, with a preference for Marsh.

The only two you dont want to lynch are the two both pushing for my head (ask them for factual reasons btw, that should be a good read). You're voting with them or against them, that should be obvious.

 

 

Thanks, Captain Obvious.

[Verbal32]

I'd prefer to hear from Marsh and Tina before anybody else decides to pile on AJ here.

[Verbal32]

We have over a day left, but it is Friday and the deadline is on the weekend.  I can very likely be online (via phone) tomorrow afternoon, so I'm not missing this deadline.

[Verbal32]

  On 1/27/2017 at 5:03 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 10:45 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 5:14 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 3:14 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 2:54 AM, Darthe said:

Off train im led straight to nin, doubly so if eldricks a wolf. If he flips town (he wont, but just say he does), verbs outted by proxy and prob mrs clov with him, though one could argue for dice fitting in, despite whats definitely a stronger early game than wolf dice usually has.

Verb prob should have died today.

Explain your thinking there please.

So after I flip town if you guys lynch me it's in writing.

Im not a wolf and I dont see both wolves jumping on a lylo bandwagon considering this game, so I looked at the off train players, knew that I was town, and im aware that I vastly think you more likely to be a wolf than the others on wagon. Your inverse links to verb where youve wanted interaction and pressure and have tossed out lines like that "lynch me tomorrow" one say that you're using verb, and he seems to be taking that slow, so id bet youre never on a team with him. Moreover, dice has disappeared and mrs clov has been clean by and large. I dont quite know how they fit, but I know that AJ doesnt unless you or nin are wolves because again, I am looking with the assumption that we have one wolf on and one off.

That leaves marsh as the odd man out, but ive not quite made it there yet and I think my aj read still needs fleshed out.

Ok. Gonna try to tackle this. I wanted more information from you on your think of "if I flip town, it's verb by proxy, and mrsclov as well" you threw dice's name onto that list as well, but not with very much conviction.

 

That you are even showing signs that you're wrong about me is a really good sign. In our last game together to stuck to your scum read of me all game and wouldn't budge or reconsider for anything.

 

I agree that it's very likely that there's one scum on train and one off. I'm not the one on, but this post needs to be remembered later. It's a really good one.

 

Now then, to be more precise in my question, once I flip town, why does that condemn verb and mrsclov?

Post flip obviously im at least partly wrong, but what I was seeing was her ignoring verb a bit as he did this push that didnt read to me as intended to succeed. I think verb-you not being w/wis pretty well started across the thread but if it is verb or you right now I think I need to reassess other players before committing to even those read.

 

 

I don't understand what you're saying here.

[Andrej]

  On 1/27/2017 at 5:53 PM, Verbal32 said:

I'd prefer to hear from Marsh and Tina before anybody else decides to pile on AJ here.

I think we'll be waiting for a while.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/27/2017 at 2:59 PM, Andrej said:

 

  On 1/27/2017 at 9:03 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

I for some reason remembered it as you guys town reading each other and me.

Show me

I said I remembered wrong. There's nothing to show.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/27/2017 at 5:03 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 10:45 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 5:14 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 3:14 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 2:54 AM, Darthe said:

Off train im led straight to nin, doubly so if eldricks a wolf. If he flips town (he wont, but just say he does), verbs outted by proxy and prob mrs clov with him, though one could argue for dice fitting in, despite whats definitely a stronger early game than wolf dice usually has.

Verb prob should have died today.

Explain your thinking there please.

So after I flip town if you guys lynch me it's in writing.

Im not a wolf and I dont see both wolves jumping on a lylo bandwagon considering this game, so I looked at the off train players, knew that I was town, and im aware that I vastly think you more likely to be a wolf than the others on wagon. Your inverse links to verb where youve wanted interaction and pressure and have tossed out lines like that "lynch me tomorrow" one say that you're using verb, and he seems to be taking that slow, so id bet youre never on a team with him. Moreover, dice has disappeared and mrs clov has been clean by and large. I dont quite know how they fit, but I know that AJ doesnt unless you or nin are wolves because again, I am looking with the assumption that we have one wolf on and one off.

That leaves marsh as the odd man out, but ive not quite made it there yet and I think my aj read still needs fleshed out.

Ok. Gonna try to tackle this. I wanted more information from you on your think of "if I flip town, it's verb by proxy, and mrsclov as well" you threw dice's name onto that list as well, but not with very much conviction.

 

That you are even showing signs that you're wrong about me is a really good sign. In our last game together to stuck to your scum read of me all game and wouldn't budge or reconsider for anything.

 

I agree that it's very likely that there's one scum on train and one off. I'm not the one on, but this post needs to be remembered later. It's a really good one.

 

Now then, to be more precise in my question, once I flip town, why does that condemn verb and mrsclov?

Post flip obviously im at least partly wrong, but what I was seeing was her ignoring verb a bit as he did this push that didnt read to me as intended to succeed. I think verb-you not being w/wis pretty well started across the thread but if it is verb or you right now I think I need to reassess other players before committing to even those read.

Wow. Again focusing on the parts that don't matter, and ignoring the point of the question.

 

You talked about the MrsClov part of the question, now that it's irrelevant.

 

You talked about how my town flip would mean you are wrong (duh)

 

Why does me being town mean verb is scum to you? I'm getting a really strong "w/v and not w/w" vibe from you, and you refuse to explain the other side of it.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/27/2017 at 5:05 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/26/2017 at 10:53 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

AJ and Darthe are both right.

 

Darthe hasn't been involved in any of the lynches. D2 despite having an acceptable reason (happy belated birthday) doesn't change the fact he was inactive. half the game was though, so /shrug.

 

He hasn't provided as much game solve as several other players. His presence overall is much lower than expected, even if you don't count the D2 gap. AJ's points are very valid.

 

 

But the list Darthe gave of the things he's done this game is also on point. When he's here, he's contributing. It's not just background input.

This is true and actually isnt fencesitting, it just looks like you dont have a dog in the argument.

That would be because it's not an argument. It's an observation. His reasons for sussing you are nullified by your explanation imo.