DEMONOLOGY - GAME THREAD

[Lenlo]

 

 

Not wanting to lynch Lenlo if he's a villager is wolfy af.

Whats this supposed to mean?! Also at page 40 ill drop what ive got and continue. Its so boooooring. The shit-posting has got to stop.

 

 

Meant it as poke of fun :(

 

 

I didnt say that was all you did. I never said that. I said thats what I found wolfy and note-worthy.  Your putting words in my mouth, again.

 

And once again, I havnt voted anyone. I was catching up. Are you gonna come at me and say that you never pushed Zander? Because the only problem I had with you was that you pushed him and I left it at that. Your getting incredibly defensive over what is basically an extended FoS after I blatantly said it was just the first 40 pages and I needed to read the rest.

Have you considered that he might just think you're a wolf?

 

I remember him getting into a really stupid argument as a wolf in TG with I think Tiink, and I couldn't follow it for the life of me and just kind of ignored it when I should have probably considered that he was making crap up on the fly.

 

In his back and forth with you he's basically just made sense to me.  More straight-forward kind of way.

 

But you have a tendency to accidentally misrep people that lends to easy rebuttals so :???: I'm just an idiot who doesn't know how to read people.

 

I have, but he hasnt given any reasons for me being a wolf beyond his reaction to this catchup. Beyond that his sole reason was "Hes afk", when half the game is afk. Now I dont think I am misrepping him. I think what I said, with the quotes I have shown, perfectly support what I have said. Nowhere in there however did I ever say "Snow is a wolf". "Lets lynch Snow". "Vote Snow". All I did was say that it was wolfy and that I didnt like his handleing of Zander in the first half of the game. In response to that, he hops all over me tries to argue semantics and dissect every post I make. The entire time with, what seems to me but im clearly biased in this debate, as a predetermined notion that I am a wolf. Predetermined notions like that are wolfy imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unvote vote Lenlo

Were you advised on your QT to to go after Lenlo?

 

 

I think he had Lenlo in his PoE tho I dont really recall if he gave reasons for it.

 

He didnt, atleast not that ive seen

 

 

For someone youre voting Id like to think youd have a better idea of his PoE.

 

IM NOT VOTING HIM FFS

 

 

Casing him, sussing him w/e my bad.

 

Yourr all caps "anger" response reads false to me as well.

 

Yes, your bad for not reading the thread and having absolutely no idea what is going on. Yes, your bad because apparently im lying about being annoyed when the most active person in the thread who is more than likely going to bury me in posts because thats the only way you know how to hunt doesnt know the actual state of the thread.

 

 

Zander, pay attention to the thread if your gonna throw shade around. Also, I already quoted where he misrepped you. Post 531 if you wanna go find it on your own but im not quoting it again for your lazy butt.

 

oh ok

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE LENLOLOLOLOLOLO

 

Yeah, cause your to lazy to look back at the Quote I already pulled. Great job champ

 

 

Dude ive been paying attention to the thread. 

 

Im pretty sure iirc you didnt know he had you in his PoE....so am I wrong there too?

 

Ive been one of the most involved players in the thread.

 

Yes I said voting instead of sussing/casing so my bad there.

 

Doesnt change the point that you havent addressed where he you stated was pushing me which is pretty much the premise of your push against him is it not?

 

So ya me missing 1 little thing which was still in the right ball park and my vote garnering this sort of reaction from you rings false.

 

I may be wrong, if so show me man but for now Im good with my vote on you as is.

 

*Sigh*.

 

Lets take this slow, for you, Zander. I did address this. I addressed this by quoting the post where he pushed you. I quoted it earlier when talking to Snow. You then come in and say I have not addressed the issue, when I have. I give you a post number and tell you that I have already quoted it once. You then say I have not addressed it. See where I get annoyed with you? Its not just you missing 1 little thing, its you missing the single thing your badgering me about when I already gave it to you.

 

Post 531. Thats the post where he pushes you. I have already quoted it once.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

@ AJ I'm getting worried that you feel too much like last game.

 

As in I'm starting to feel better about you in a superficial way that I don't think I should let myself trust.

 

Who are your top suspects atp?

 

Don't trust it then?

 

I think I'm an advanced enough player that I can successfully mimic my town game to a high degree and have shown that in numerous games. So I don't blame you if you think I'm just saying the right things, etc. I also haven't been town in a long time so maybe I've lost some of the sharpness :(

 

I am mulling over John. I thought him pushing Dave was bad but I am reconsidering that with the new info in light and I haven't hated his responses to Lenlo so I think I'm trending back towards null rather than leaning scum.

 

Pral is a mild suspect of mine as I mentioned earlier.

 

I have ~good feels about the majority of the roster that has been involved thus far but not super solid on anyone being scum atp other than stupid conspiracy theories that pop up in my head from time to time. It's gonna take some time with a game this size

 

 

Ultimately, can you vote Shad or not?

 

The rest is all gamesmanship.

[Andrej]

The short answer for you Robert is no.

[Shad_]

fwiw 531 was you saying something really benign about trying to catch up but my head was elsewhere at the time so I didn't ask you for a correction

[Lenlo]

fwiw 531 was you saying something really benign about trying to catch up but my head was elsewhere at the time so I didn't ask you for a correction

Is it? Let me get the right post number then, might be off by one digit.

[Lenlo]

 

 

-snip-

In general. I'm always good with a Zander lynch. 

 

 

Thanks for clarifying.  For my amusement, can you explain what is so anti-town about Zander's playstyle?

 

 

He puts out 30 pages of content a day, and you're lucky if half of those contain game content. All this serves to do is clutter and inflate the game thread, discouraging people from reading/re-reading it, which cuts down on effective analysis. 

 

Post 530, sorry. Was off by one.

[Lenlo]

This, along with the quoted nested in it, are the ones I took major notice of. Yeah theres some jokes, but John took this more seriously (Imo) then one normally takes jokes. So I brought it up. And then John happened.

[Andrej]

Again, I don't really have an issue with #530 and I think it's probably null for someone to post regarding Zander's post count

 

If he was trying hard to push a policy lynch or something, or actually saying it was a scummy trait for Zander that's a different story

 

From what I've gathered none of that happened

[Shad_]

@ AJ #1624 basically you know I've sniffed you out pretty decisively early on a few times and it's always centered on how you push your suspects. Last game even when I thought you were town I said something in my role pm to the effect of "if he is scum he's intentionally avoiding a hard push on anybody because he knows that's where it really starts to show".

That doesn't mean a villager can't lack a solid scum read on D1. I do as often as not. It just means if you're a wolf don't think you can hide behind it all game.

without night killing me first :flamingsword:

 

[Shad_]

 

 

 

 

Though I did like how you hid during my calls for your investigation results you sick cowardly scum.

I don't even understand what this means.

 

 

When you scummed...you hid like a three year old.  Just saying.

 

And I've been pretty much waggling my cock in the middle of the thread since the minute it opened so :???: I don't know what you mean by calls for my investigation results.

 

 

You brought up the last game...I'm just replying...your meta is to hide when scum...avoid the discussion on concrete matters...I get that that some play this way...personally i find it distasteful...but hey...a man has to have a code.  I'm glad to have your meta.  

 

You are scum.

 

There you go.

 

 

I don't disagree with the meta but I don't see where the conclusion follows.  If you're a villager walk me through it.

[Andrej]

I tend to wait for D2 at least before I start to wolf opening

 

C'mon man

[Andrej]

openly*

[Lenlo]

Again, I don't really have an issue with #530 and I think it's probably null for someone to post regarding Zander's post count

 

If he was trying hard to push a policy lynch or something, or actually saying it was a scummy trait for Zander that's a different story

 

From what I've gathered none of that happened

Which is why im not and was not voting or actively pushing him.

[Andrej]

 

Again, I don't really have an issue with #530 and I think it's probably null for someone to post regarding Zander's post count

 

If he was trying hard to push a policy lynch or something, or actually saying it was a scummy trait for Zander that's a different story

 

From what I've gathered none of that happened

 

Which is why im not and was not voting or actively pushing him.

 

This is not a saving point btw so idk why you keep repeating it.

 

You had him as your bottom suspect so even without a vote it's pretty clear where your head was at.

[Andrej]

@ AJ #1624 basically you know I've sniffed you out pretty decisively early on a few times and it's always centered on how you push your suspects. Last game even when I thought you were town I said something in my role pm to the effect of "if he is scum he's intentionally avoiding a hard push on anybody because he knows that's where it really starts to show".

 

That doesn't mean a villager can't lack a solid scum read on D1. I do as often as not. It just means if you're a wolf don't think you can hide behind it all game.

 

 

without night killing me first :flamingsword:

 

 

For real though we should talk about this more post game

 

You've probably seen me say it multiple times myself that this is the hardest part of my town game to copy because deep down I know that I'm just a filthy scum so the edge is taken off.

 

Don't go getting any ideas though. This game is much larger than usual here so it will take longer to really start pinning down reads. I'm not gonna be surprised barring peeks/other mechanical means we are probably going to be lynching into null reads a lot

[Shad_]

I have, but he hasnt given any reasons for me being a wolf beyond his reaction to this catchup. Beyond that his sole reason was "Hes afk", when half the game is afk. Now I dont think I am misrepping him. I think what I said, with the quotes I have shown, perfectly support what I have said. Nowhere in there however did I ever say "Snow is a wolf". "Lets lynch Snow". "Vote Snow". All I did was say that it was wolfy and that I didnt like his handleing of Zander in the first half of the game. In response to that, he hops all over me tries to argue semantics and dissect every post I make. The entire time with, what seems to me but im clearly biased in this debate, as a predetermined notion that I am a wolf. Predetermined notions like that are wolfy imo.

Blue's fine.  I mean villagers tunnel villagers too but it's generically fine.  But red, if you want to talk semantics "wolfy" vs "a wolf" is about as petty as it gets mate.  I'm reading this out of context from your actual argument with him but I would safely assume that any player ought to read your list as "Snow is the person I'm most comfortable lynching right now".

 

I'm not sure how relevant that is to your argument with him? but I guess my thinking is if Snow's a villager trying to figure out which of the people voting him is a wolf he has grounds to suspect you.

 

Still want to know what his reason for wanting to lynch you prior to your reads list was though.

[Shad_]

Post 530, sorry. Was off by one.

Is it sad that I couldn't be arsed to look up one post or notice that you were directly quoting it above, but I remembered that it was on page 27?

 

Yeah probably.

 

It gives me the heebeegeebees for a second every time I've read it because he took up the exact same line as a wolf in TG, but I can't help but think he wouldn't say it consistently as a wolf unless he'd say it as a villager too.

 

Policy lynching is stupid but we know villagers do it. My ISO-less memory of Snow's early game was his focus on Hermes. /shrug

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

 

Though I did like how you hid during my calls for your investigation results you sick cowardly scum.

I don't even understand what this means.

 

 

When you scummed...you hid like a three year old.  Just saying.

 

And I've been pretty much waggling my cock in the middle of the thread since the minute it opened so :???: I don't know what you mean by calls for my investigation results.

 

 

You brought up the last game...I'm just replying...your meta is to hide when scum...avoid the discussion on concrete matters...I get that that some play this way...personally i find it distasteful...but hey...a man has to have a code.  I'm glad to have your meta.  

 

You are scum.

 

There you go.

 

 

I don't disagree with the meta but I don't see where the conclusion follows.  If you're a villager walk me through it.

 

 

I like you as scum cause I don't like your hunt.  Your meta is no different D1 this game than D1 last game.  You do this on purpose to hide.  It's obvious. not very flattering.  

[Shad_]

This is not a saving point btw so idk why you keep repeating it.

 

You had him as your bottom suspect so even without a vote it's pretty clear where your head was at.

basically this

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

The short answer for you Robert is no.

 

Sucks to be You.  

[Shad_]

I like you as scum cause I don't like your hunt.  Your meta is no different D1 this game than D1 last game.  You do this on purpose to hide.  It's obvious. not very flattering.

I was town D1 last game lol

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

I like you as scum cause I don't like your hunt.  Your meta is no different D1 this game than D1 last game.  You do this on purpose to hide.  It's obvious. not very flattering.

I was town D1 last game lol

 

 

But you are scum D1 this game...lol

[Andrej]

Looking at Snow's ISO I see nothing obvious that indicates why/when he started scum reading Lenlo

 

There's just a one-liner that says Snow is putting Lenlo into his WTL

[Shad_]

For real though we should talk about this more post game

 

You've probably seen me say it multiple times myself that this is the hardest part of my town game to copy because deep down I know that I'm just a filthy scum so the edge is taken off.

 

Don't go getting any ideas though. This game is much larger than usual here so it will take longer to really start pinning down reads. I'm not gonna be surprised barring peeks/other mechanical means we are probably going to be lynching into null reads a lot

Bleh it's not like we haven't lynched down the line in large games before.

 

Mechanics are probably a lot more complex than usual in this one though.

 

I'm thinking your play this phase will be more informative for me moving forward post-game than it's going to be here and now. 

[Shad_]

 

 

I like you as scum cause I don't like your hunt.  Your meta is no different D1 this game than D1 last game.  You do this on purpose to hide.  It's obvious. not very flattering.

I was town D1 last game lol

 

 

But you are scum D1 this game...lol

 

 

  You're a weird cat.

 

Null at worst, but weird.