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John Snow

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Eldrick4221 Master

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NB, give me some thoughts pls

 

 

I'd like some blood in the water, WTL Darthe, Shad or Eldrick.

 

Not surprised by the Darthe mention lol    Why Shad and Eldrick?

 

Shad chases meta and Eldrick adds mud.

 

You scum?

Care to elaborate on this "adding mud"?

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Eldrick4221 Master

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Just iso'd Sooh. Not seeing what you are, aj. Only game-related post I can find is her read on wiffy.

Sooh might be naughty.

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Prove me wrong?

 

It's mostly not game related at all or agreeing with someone.

Eldrick4221 Master

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Ftr, believing her reasons for being busy has nothing to do with alignment. I've seen her post legit reasons for being away as either alignment. When she was scum with me in Clov's game, if I remember correctly, she was ill and said as much ITT.

 

What exactly did you like about her posts? Were any of them outside of her scum range, iyo?

Bold is fair but to clarify I wasn't really using that as a reason to make a read, just more so commenting that I didn't think she was lying about being busy to like actively lurk or something. I tend to take people for their word on that sort of thing.

 

I liked #967, #970 and #972 in particular.

 

As far as being outside of her scum range I wouldn't really be able to say because I don't think I've seen a full fledged naughty!Sooh game before so idk what she could be capable of. I don't think she's particularly a hard townie to spot though. Her analysis is pretty sharp from what I've seen having just modded for her in Hackers.

It annoys me when people do this. I have no idea where those posts are on mobile.

Eldrick4221 Master

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Ok. Responding to the response to my post about Tink irt AJ early in the game.

It was said that the feel of the post was similar to what else was going on. I disagree. The tone of the posts caught my attention, and that's why I brought it up.

I can chalk it up to them knowing each other, as they clearly do, but there was a tone difference.

I liked bop's reason for reading me. I can't give him townie points for it by itself because I'm always wary of town reads of me because scum can easily do that to pocket me, but the fact that others have commented positively on his response is a good sign. Slight Nice read for bop

 

Sooh not wanting to give a read on shad is sketching me out. She was very open about being able to read him easily last game by how he read her. Why has that changed?

 

Still feeling good about shad and adding aj to that list. Nothing concrete for those reads, just feel good tone wise.

And that's where I'm at. Gonna get ready to hang out with my friend now. I'll be back tonight.

 

 

Excuse me? I said I read him based on his read on me. As far as I'm aware he hasn't really said anything about me so far this game. 

 

Like, the entire basis of me scum reading him last game was him hinging on a read on us. I can't believe you've forgotten that already.

  

 

She typically reads me a lot better than she lets herself believe, and not having a feel for me yet isn't bad necessarily, it just fails to woo me with radiant villageriness.

 

Alright then, so far I can say that the joke phase threw me off a little, especially given last game when you were scum. I'm not sure how to read your joke phase. We did mindmeld over Wifi, so that's good, not that I think necessarily scum Shad would need to hedge on her for a mislynch anyway, but it was a good sign. 

 

Generally I hope to have a better idea when I'm done catching up.

  

 

Sooh,

 

if you see this, please let me know what you meant with your reply to my comment about eldrick (the one where you say lol...(and i forget the sentence you say after))

 

did you mean it how DPR meant it or otherwise? 

 

others feel free to chime in as well

 

(in my previous post there was a secondly comment about my thoughts on DPR interpreting it differently than others but if he interpretted it correctly or if others thought the same way he did then i don't think it means as much)

 

I meant that it was a good analysis for someone who doesn't know Eldrick. If people were thinking like that last game when him and I were a hydra we might have had an easier game lol.

 

Andrej Spam Master

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Agreeing with people can be game related.

 

Correcting you on making a false statement is game related.

 

Expressing the beginnings of her read on Shad is game related.

 

It's not like her posts were all fluff in her last catch up. There was some content and opinions stated beyond calling Wifi nice.

Eldrick4221 Master

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Ok.

 

First was because of me thinking shad had already read her and is now null considering correct information. It's explaining why she doesn't have a read on him.

 

Second is further commenting on the wiffy read (the one post I said was game related). Saying shad looks good for also seeing it. While I will count this as a second game related post, it's not a good one. I know from personal experience that shad seeing the same things you do doesn't = shad being town.

 

Obviously biased towards the third one, and only noticed how she's talking about how much trouble we had last time. The observation is a good one.

Sooh Spam Master

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The quips about Shad needing to get out more are probably nothing more than that so I wouldn't take those too highly into consideration. They don't bother me at least, I think that's just his personality to bust balls so null.

The part about him seemingly having no read is my problem currently as well. The back and forth reads more like deflection if he's not actually taking anything away from it. I'll wait for him to respond though.

I agree with the bold. That's how I read it too.

I'm ok with him not having a read yet, though. It's still very early and several reads aren't developed yet.

Not having fully developed reads by now is fine, yeah.

 

What I'm talking about is more like this:

 

I get the impression Shad is focussing on rep more than this game. I say that because we are in d1, barely past (or maybe not even) the shitposting and it would be silly to spec on player's alignments so early because of the high-percentage chance that you'll be wrong.

What's his take away from all that? I can probably assume but what I want to see is the connecting of the dots and follow through otherwise it reads more like he's just deflecting and arguing to counter punch rather than actually try to resolve Shad. It's the progression that matters imo.

 

I kind of agree. I think it's fine not to lock yourself into reads on D1, but this just reads like an excuse. Even if he's not comfortable locking Shad in yet he has talked to Shad and asked questions of him and such. I mean, even saying he's null because reasons stated is better than nothing imo.

 

 

 

 

 

I think it's best if we go ahead and nip this kind of thing in the bud - I won't be playing the way that people recognize or are comfortable with. It's not to be contrary or disruptive - It's because I see no value in it. 

 

I'll give you time. It's just that I read people based on the thoughts and actions in their posts, and when that's lacking it gets difficult. You've recently come back here though, so you'll need some time to settle. 

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