Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Darthe]

 

 

I am not very sure about that

If I'm in your lowest 2, why are you saying things like this?

There is one scum in BFG

 

There is one scum in sock/dice/darthe

 

So, I am not very sure if darthe is right

Is it because im an option that you say this?

[Darthe]

 

Nothing. Just night things.

 

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

[BFG]

 

Darthe ISO still isn't posting :/

 

TLDR version is that it left me underwhelmed

 

he's playing more cautiously than last game, but I could see that as either alignment

 

Tone is straight forward, but there's nothing in what he posts that I don't think he could post as mafia and I don't see anything from his interactions with Shad that screams m/m or m/t

 

I need to look at Nyn/Dice again and will try to read through some of Sooh/Eldrick, Zander - but I think Zander, Sock are town and I don't see Dice as mafia with Pral or Darthe, so I think it's just Pral/Darthe

This reasoning doesnt lead up to this conclusion irt me.

 

I believe you to be more capable of faking your passive town play then I do Zander or Sooh replicating high effort play as mafia. Dice is a weaker town read, but I don't see him as partners with you or Pral, so that leaves the two of you.

 

I will admit that I don't have a 'case' as such, I feel this would be much easier if I did

[Darthe]

I think my biggest mistake this game was town reading Darthe because of him consistently going after sock and basically noone else, and for his response to my hypothetical post.

 

The first reason is null and a bad reason to Town read someone.

 

When Darthe took my words out of context the second time, it made me realize the first one wasn't towny.

 

With that in mind, I haven't thought Darthe was town all game before these happened. He was null or lower. He convinced me he was town, and I'm realizing that was a bad read.

 

I think Darthe is scum.

 

I've spent most of the game thinking dice is town. I've had to reconsider when the poe shrunk and I thought I might be wrong. I looked for connections for him to make sense as scum, with varying success. He was in my poe so I compared him with every one that was possible scum to me (Pral and bfg). Neither made enough sense. The reason for town anger makes a lot more sense than scum anger. I was just blinded by my tunnel.

 

I think dice is town.

 

As I said before, BFG has been spending a lot of energy pointing out how dice is town. How his list doesn't make sense to put both his teammates as early town reads. Bfg doesn't make sense to be scum if dice is town.

 

I think bfg is town

 

Zander is the towniest player in the game. Will not be voting there.

 

I think Zander is town

 

CONCLUSION:

 

SCUM IS DARTHE AND PRAL

Look, theres the flip flop! Holy hell man, you went from laya js a wolf with cass, idc who I vote to laya is town, to me questioning it so now we are both wolves?

 

Am I stupid? I cant be the only one who sees this and thinks it's never coming from a townie. Hell, he even bolded for effect to give some urgency.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Wolf me would want to create a thread environment that made it impossible to vote me, to harass and belittle anyone who read me wolf until everyone was afraid to place their votes. I've simply not done that this game.

 

I could give a ton of self meta, but that's pointless. Just think about the above. You guys have played with me so much, how do you not know by now? I'm not a wolf. I'm just not doing the dog wolf me does.

This is a joke Darthe, no one is scared of you,

Some definitely are, but that isn't my point. I'm just explaining how wolf me would want to shape the thread.

Your self Meta talk is like psychiatrist talk imo.....

You see what you want to see. Figure it out Z, im not game to lose this because you wanna be rigid.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

I sense that we aren't collectively going to vote sock today still :/

 

Zander, as w player you're so wasted by your own rigidity. You got your lynch and it was wrong, you got your evidence, but you can't let go of your biases enough to figure it out. Like I said, a waste.

Aren't you playing similar w.r.t sock?

Maybe, but the difference is im gonna be right.

Just like you claimed in PoTC you were right about me!?!?!

 

Cause youre doing the same thing here irt Sock imo.

Oh look a past game, I'm sure that will man something to me.

 

Different games make different situations and it is balony to try and invalidate my read based on "well youve been wrong before". Ironic given yesterday.

My point is i was wrong on Cass right on Shad what are you at thus far?

 

Thats my point.

 

Just because I was wrong on Cass dont mean im wrong on my other reads man.

It doesnt make me wrong that ive not caught a wolf yet either. How often am I this adamantly set on a read, and that read never take off? Its not happened in my memory (faulty though that may be). Theres a reason for that, and it isnt just your opposition. Eldrick is being carried and that needs to crack.

[Darthe]

Go ahead with whatever you think

Well this wont link us at all :/

[Darthe]

 

I think my biggest mistake this game was town reading Darthe because of him consistently going after sock and basically noone else, and for his response to my hypothetical post.

 

The first reason is null and a bad reason to Town read someone.

 

When Darthe took my words out of context the second time, it made me realize the first one wasn't towny.

 

With that in mind, I haven't thought Darthe was town all game before these happened. He was null or lower. He convinced me he was town, and I'm realizing that was a bad read.

 

I think Darthe is scum.

 

I've spent most of the game thinking dice is town. I've had to reconsider when the poe shrunk and I thought I might be wrong. I looked for connections for him to make sense as scum, with varying success. He was in my poe so I compared him with every one that was possible scum to me (Pral and bfg). Neither made enough sense. The reason for town anger makes a lot more sense than scum anger. I was just blinded by my tunnel.

 

I think dice is town.

 

As I said before, BFG has been spending a lot of energy pointing out how dice is town. How his list doesn't make sense to put both his teammates as early town reads. Bfg doesn't make sense to be scum if dice is town.

 

I think bfg is town

 

Zander is the towniest player in the game. Will not be voting there.

 

I think Zander is town

 

CONCLUSION:

 

SCUM IS DARTHE AND PRAL

You may be right Eld.

:/

[Darthe]

 

 

Vote Count 4.01

 

Not voting: Everyone

 

Votes are locked as the game is in MyLo.

Dont forget this!!!!!

 

I dont think ive ever played a game with locked votes.

Oh, you didn't play in the game where Darthe was scum and me and sooh were in lylo with locked votes and we lost?

 

You know, maybe you should read it. To see how scum darthe plays

Yeah, that would be relevant. Zanders a reader anyhow. Which game is it?

[Darthe]

I won't ignore you pral.

 

Give me a reason why Darthe is town, and who is bfg scum with.

I could give fifty, but youd call them self meta and say I can fake it apparently.

 

It should be so so telling that you can read anyone either way at a moment's notice and it makes sense itt.

[Darthe]

 

I won't ignore you pral.

 

Give me a reason why Darthe is town, and who is bfg scum with.

Darthe is not putting a lot of effort pushing anyone else other than you. Even with you, he is not that aggressive - just saying that he will vote you and such. This doesn't feel like scum darthe at MYLO. He likes to control things at this point, and he is certainly not doing that

No, im not. Im just talking and am mostly low wim.

[Darthe]

 

Darthe ISO still isn't posting :/

 

TLDR version is that it left me underwhelmed

 

 

he's playing more cautiously than last game, but I could see that as either alignment

 

Tone is straight forward, but there's nothing in what he posts that I don't think he could post as mafia and I don't see anything from his interactions with Shad that screams m/m or m/t

 

I need to look at Nyn/Dice again and will try to read through some of Sooh/Eldrick, Zander - but I think Zander, Sock are town and I don't see Dice as mafia with Pral or Darthe, so I think it's just Pral/Darthe

Unlike what BFG says. That's definitely not something as either alignment. Darthe is not cautious as scum. That's not how he plays and BFG also knows it, I bet

This is true, bfg should def know me better and I didnt get that read at all

[Darthe]

Dice, input on this.

 

Bfg is already where I am. I think zander's on board too.

 

Darthe and pral? Yea or nay.

 

If nay, why?

Yes, darthe and laya just openly defending me on thread. Perfect sense.

[Darthe]

I will admit bfg clearing dice is my weakest point. Scum!bfg only needs 1 mislynch.

Eldrick bfg?

[Darthe]

Show me your thought process for them/us being scum together. Why dice. Why me. Why not darthe.

I didnt realize wolves were found based on why not. Ffs come on

[Pralaya]

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

All I am waiting for us if we are deciding no lynch. Else I will vote BFG in an instant

[Darthe]

 

Btw dice, your reason for wanting to vote Pral was terribad. His vig soft claim wasn't scummy in the slightest.

I have a reason it can be but Ill let Dice answer it.

Me too actually, but its sorta out there.

[Darthe]

 

 

Darthe ISO still isn't posting :/

 

TLDR version is that it left me underwhelmed

 

he's playing more cautiously than last game, but I could see that as either alignment

 

Tone is straight forward, but there's nothing in what he posts that I don't think he could post as mafia and I don't see anything from his interactions with Shad that screams m/m or m/t

 

I need to look at Nyn/Dice again and will try to read through some of Sooh/Eldrick, Zander - but I think Zander, Sock are town and I don't see Dice as mafia with Pral or Darthe, so I think it's just Pral/Darthe

This reasoning doesnt lead up to this conclusion irt me.

I believe you to be more capable of faking your passive town play then I do Zander or Sooh replicating high effort play as mafia. Dice is a weaker town read, but I don't see him as partners with you or Pral, so that leaves the two of you.

 

I will admit that I don't have a 'case' as such, I feel this would be much easier if I did

Calling sooh high effort here is a stretch. She has bursts, and then she is gone. Thats not a point against her, bit i dont think it's in her favor either. I find your lack of case... Disturbing after isoing me, then tossing me as your wolf read. Thats just useless this late in a game.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

All I am waiting for us if we are deciding no lynch. Else I will vote BFG in an instant

Ive been really zoned in on sock, whats your case here? Tldr it please

[Darthe]

Btw, and this is also something that should clue folks in. Eldrick began the whole string of four or five pages talking about being low wim and then proceeded to recase and reestablish a read on me that pulled the person outside of his PoE back in it.

 

This is a bit gamey but that is WIM, and I think town him really wouldnt have it.

 

How am I expected to take that ever as townie? Someone tell me, where in my position you can ever imagine eldrick not being a wolf. Youre gonna have a hard time.

[BFG]

 

 

Calling sooh high effort here is a stretch. She has bursts, and then she is gone. Thats not a point against her, bit i dont think it's in her favor either. I find your lack of case... Disturbing after isoing me, then tossing me as your wolf read. Thats just useless this late in a game.

 

this better post this time

 

Pretty much every time I read the thread pre_sub Sooh was in the game talking to people and trying to solve, most telling was when she was obviously frustrated and still in game

[BFG]

Darthe why didn't you vote Pral last night?

[BFG]

 

Unlike what BFG says. That's definitely not something as either alignment. Darthe is not cautious as scum. That's not how he plays and BFG also knows it, I bet

This is true, bfg should def know me better and I didnt get that read at all

 

Spooooooky was the last game we played when you were mafia, you were inactive while I was alive and I don't recall you being particularly aggressive after I died (I will admit I didn't follow that closely after I died so may be wrong). I don't think being relatively passive would be out of your mafia range

[BFG]

I am getting really fed up of the 'this page can't be displayed' page

 

10 to 1 this doesn't post

[Andrej]

Vote Count 4.05

 

BFG (1) - Pralaya

 

Not voting: Darthe, Zander, Dice, Sock, BFG

 

4 to lynch

 

DL in 7.5 hours.