Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Pralaya]

We should No Lynch today, btw. It is very likely that we are all goons and vanillas.

[Eldrick4221]

The importance of figuring that out is what are we looking for.

 

If there have been 3 town PRs, out of a possible 4.

 

There has also been 1 Goon flip.

 

With 3 PRs, there are 2 scenarios.

 

1. The traitor was recruited. They are all goons.

 

2. The traitor wasn't recruited. The remaining mafia is roled.

 

If there are 4 town PRs, we KNOW the traitor was recruited. There isn't any other way it would work since we have a Goon flip.

 

 

So.

 

If anyone has a role left, please say so now. If you have a role, we will know the traitor was recruited. We will know that the remaining 2 scum know each other.

[Eldrick4221]

-the 'if' in the second line.

[Eldrick4221]

Also what would no lynch accomplish other than make the number of town votes needed for lynch 1 less?

[Eldrick4221]

If Zander or Darthe are scum, I think we already lost. I don't see myself voting either of them.

 

Bfg/Pral doesn't make sense BECAUSE bfg is fighting so hard to prove that dice is town. Why would scum!bfg cut off a mislynch this late in the game?

 

So either dice and bfg are both scum, or bfg is town and dead wrong. That dice did put both his scum mates at the top of the list.

[Pralaya]

Also what would no lynch accomplish other than make the number of town votes needed for lynch 1 less?

It reduces the pool by one. It is mylo, a mislynch today would lose anyway.

[Eldrick4221]

I might be talked into Darthe, because his word twisting is annoying. That he is blatantly ignoring context of my posts to make them sound scummy.

[Zander?]

 

Second

 

 

Im not the only one who thinks theres Wolves in there so thoughts on that?!?!?

 

So it seems like you think im a wolf, can you lay out the case on me please?

 

Also would be my partner in that case?

 

And assume for a moment Im confirmed Town somehow, who are the Wolves then iyo and why?

You have basically said scum is in sock/cass/dice and has also said I may have bused Shad. Who is remaining?

 

You do realise that except Darthe and Amega and the other known town, you are calling everyone a scum suspect, right? And, I am casing you and showing where I am thinking you are scum.

 

If you ask me, neither of those 3 are likely to be scum. My thoughts say Zander > Amega > Darthe as the likely scum remaining. I confess though, I haven't read Darthe in detail - this is just from POE based on my town reads

This is a really weak point to make in the midst of so many laya arguments.

 

 

It hurts my brain when i agree with Darthe....

 

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[Zander?]

Hey so if I snap voted dice come morning do you think he'd be mad?

 

FML

[Zander?]

Dice/Pral

I think that dice moving his vote at eod is a scummy move. There have been people saying that scum!dice doesn't do that, but it still makes sense to me for Dice to save his teammate (pral) by moving to Cass right at the end.

 

BFG/Pral

Pral is known for bussing his teammate. Pral and bfg going at each other could very well be w/w.

 

BFG/Dice

If dice is bfg's scum mate, her trying to explain that dice doesn't bus and move his vote like that as scum makes complete sense. She's trying to dissolve the suspicion by saying scum!dice doesn't do that.

 

I'm at a loss at which one makes more sense.

 

Replace Dice with Darthe imo

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<3 Dice (I think you're the only player that fears me when scum though )

 

What's your read on me?

 

i like the questions ure asking. sounds like town solvey bfg to me. youre isoing away. tho you arnt coming up with firm thoughts out of them. wish you were here more.  town lean is about as far as i will go atm

 

Dice can you talk about Pral?

 

Has barely been here. i dont really remember a lot of what he has said and i cant get rid of the feeling that i should be voting him but as he didnt say what i thought he did i have no reason for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok this is from CASS but i messed it up

 

 

 

because they are good fairly non committal ways to give someone a town lean. easy to flip on if their town easy to make if their ure scum buddy without being tied to it in bands of steel

 

I was going to respond to Cass' post, but I think Dice nails it here.

 

 

I agree with the start but don't understand how the bold works. @Both of you, how is a 'definitely Town' type read easy to flip on?

 

@Dice, how many times did I use this exact play as scum with Town!you? "Dice is definitely Town!Dice!" You also know that it's a thing.

 

 

I DO know its a thing but you and I are not Shad. Hes trickier then we are. As for how to get away from it??  a post like "i liked when cass was doing this and this  but now shes doing  x  which i dont like and is making me reevaluate

 

flip done

 

 

Dice who you gonna vote for today and why?

 

Its the weekend and your activity level still hasnt really perked up any.

 

Why is this?

 

 

 

 

you realise i asked for a hydra for a reason right? Im in 2 games on 2 sites and its the busy end of year at work so im getting slammed and im still a bit crook. thats why i wanted a hydra cause i wasnt sure id be able to be active enuff..

 

im gonna follow my gut. Vote Pral  dont ask me for good reasons for it because i honestly dont have any its just my gut screaming.

 

i MIGHt be able to be here a tiny bit before DL but lunch is over so i dont know for sure. depends on the calls.

 

Does Dice ever bus??

 

 

yep if i need to

 

 

 

 

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

 

 

how so?

 

Eldrick told me about Darthe's reaction to his post earlier. With Darthe's slip reaction, this Dice reaction might just as well be a slip.

 

 

what are u talking about here @sooh?

 

 

Dice, what? Volume makes it easier to fake what?

 

it is easier for you to fake ure town game when u havent been high volume at least to me when reading you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Come on Dice if youre a Villager smarten the hell up. 

 

Im Town,

 

Do you really think Scum!Zander drives and leads an lynch on a Townie like that?!!?!?

 

I said why I was off earlier in the game, its the truth.

 

 

youre kidding right? after i whinged about ure activity and not doing things town zander does?  i think thats totally possible and if its not then u need to get better.

 

 

I figure that at this point z isn't even worth tinfoiling on, so its two wolves in sock, dice, laya, and bfg.

 

Im only confident in sock. The rest of you I really dont know where to go. Can everyone rank the other players? All of them, thank you.

 

 

my heads a mess  the more eldrick posts the more i want to vote him but a part of that is that hes frustrating me.

 

i seriously cant shake a sus of zander. he can scream at me that hes town all he likes but i just cant.

 

i have no idea what to make of you. i could see you sitting on one person all game as scum just to try it but i dont know. you arnt on the block for me tomorrow

 

bfg has been towny but the volume is giving me a worry cause that makes it easier for her to fake.

 

pral i still want to lynch but im also gonna factor in this supposed action of his come day

 

 

 

That's not how Dice thinks

 

No way he'd equalise a vote on his partner in the first place then switch

 

Dice/Pral isn't m/m

 

 

bfg gets it. id bus prals ass there if i was scum. i moved purely to stop random. i wasnt HAPPY about it but i dont like random. either no lynch or make a lynch happen imo

 

 

 

"my heads a mess  the more eldrick posts the more i want to vote him but a part of that is that hes frustrating me.

 

i seriously cant shake a sus of zander. he can scream at me that hes town all he likes but i just cant.

 

i have no idea what to make of you. i could see you sitting on one person all game as scum just to try it but i dont know. you arnt on the block for me tomorrow

 

bfg has been towny but the volume is giving me a worry cause that makes it easier for her to fake.

 

pral i still want to lynch but im also gonna factor in this supposed action of his come day"

 

This is like hedging on EVERY read.

 

 

How DARE i be confused about who the scum are. lets see why.

 

we have a hydra who cant even get on the same page as each other and who has one head thats crazy scummy and one thats more towny but has done somethings that pinged me.

 

we have zander who is not in his normal town madness.

 

we have bfg who subbed in for someone who didnt bother to show but hasnt been super dooper active yet

 

we have pral who shows occasionally  is having more presence now 

 

and Darthe. enuff said.

 

and im not active enuff and lost my other head.

 

yeah no reason to be confused at all right?

 

 

Hey so if I snap voted dice come morning do you think he'd be mad?

 

Guaranteed.

 

Dice/Pral

I think that dice moving his vote at eod is a scummy move. There have been people saying that scum!dice doesn't do that, but it still makes sense to me for Dice to save his teammate (pral) by moving to Cass right at the end.

 

BFG/Pral

Pral is known for bussing his teammate. Pral and bfg going at each other could very well be w/w.

 

BFG/Dice

If dice is bfg's scum mate, her trying to explain that dice doesn't bus and move his vote like that as scum makes complete sense. She's trying to dissolve the suspicion by saying scum!dice doesn't do that.

 

I'm at a loss at which one makes more sense.

 

sigh  you dont know me at ALL do you? or are u just scum trying to frame me?

 

If i was scum and both cass and pral were town i would not have moved. i wouldnt care which one died really.

 

if pral was my teammate I would never have been ON him at that point. He wasnt in any danger. He didnt NEED to be bussed.

 

As the town that i am the bunch of you have seen me move my vote to a train to secure a lynch. ive done it heaps.

 

 

ME and BFG    why would bfg try to say i dont bus when it is easily proven that i do?? I GUARENTEE that darthe nows it. Hes seen enuff of me as scum in his games to know. Zander knows cause i was on lenlo with him and was suggesting that he bus ME if need be.

 

Sock SHOULD know as they have played with me enuff.

 

 

I agree with the logic behind Dice's explanations.

 

After I thought about it, it made no sense.

[Eldrick4221]

Darthe and pral?

[Zander?]

I have literally 5 minutes

 

I hadn't noticed the timestamps, but as far as I can tell Pral is saying that his first list should have included Amega because it was obvious due to lack of posts that he would be in it. Town!Pral is more precise/exact(? not sure of correct word) than that.

 

And I know that Dice could fake those posts? The biggest thing I have is that I don't think he'd have placed both partners in his POE Day 1 and unless I'm wrong on you or Sock that's what he must have done.

 

Im starting to think youre not a Villager BFG

 

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[Zander?]

I want to hear what pral did last night

 

lolololol

[Zander?]

 

This is the second time your blatantly twisted what I say to suit your needs.

 

Maybe I'm wrong about you.

If quoting words in context is twisting then sure.  You're making the assertion that Laya is town despite yesterday being adamant that he was a wolf, to the point that you didn't care where your vote went.  You've made dozens, literally dozens, of godawful points throughout this game and have survived solely on the whimsy and arrogance of people who proclaim that your meta is apparently to be terrible at this game, something you've encouraged.

 

I don't think it's even questionable then that myself who doesn't have that background with you is justified in finding it wolfy as all hell.  I think you're scum, and I want you gone.  Plus the bragging rights.

 

 

Darthe you think Town or Scum is more likely to blatantly flip flop reads on basically the drop of the puck so to speak!?!?!?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

I want to hear what pral did last night

Ooh yeah, he claimed vig.

 

 

yep he did. but there was no death

 

Maybe he was just trying to draw an NK, but it is kinda hollow.

 

 

Come on....Scum would know based on what they took if it was even possible or not

[Zander?]

 

Also what would no lynch accomplish other than make the number of town votes needed for lynch 1 less?

It reduces the pool by one. It is mylo, a mislynch today would lose anyway.

 

 

I dont know If i trust you but this may be an option.

[Pralaya]

For the record, I am only voting no lynch or bfg today

[dicetosser1]

and what about ure little claim pral?

[dicetosser1]

 

I want to hear what pral did last night

 

lolololol

 

 

you were sUPPOOSEd to say thats what she said! nyn would be disapointed

[Eldrick4221]

For the record, I am only voting no lynch or bfg today

Why don't you have 2 options? There are 2 scum.

[Eldrick4221]

No lynch is not a good option. Period.

 

All that does is lets mafia narrow how many townies they need before they can pile on and win.

 

If we do no lynch they shoot the consensus towniest player (Pretty sure it's Zander) and then we are back to here, with more of a risk.

[Eldrick4221]

F6 is just mathematically better for town than F5. Majority is 1 larger because of an even number of players.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

Hey Darthe.

If you aren't gonna read the thread how will you develop reads?

Oh I always read, I just generally dont read back of I missed 20+ pages. I can live without them and usually I can show myself enough that people get good reads on me so it works out.

Worst thing that could happen is I yolo vote dice at lylo

Unless he's scum this time.

Lol nah, scum dice never makes it to lylo

Not really reading much into this, just caught my attention because it's LYLO and dice is alive.

 

Does that mean he's town?

[Pralaya]

 

For the record, I am only voting no lynch or bfg today

Why don't you have 2 options? There are 2 scum.

Not confident enough