Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

Zander? · December 3, 2016

What has Sooh done to make you feel good about her thus far?

Floated through the thread on a feather being happy to be here and saying whatever comes to her mind.

Scum!Sooh is cautious and it's tonally obvious.

If she's a wolf who just had a great early game it will come out when she has to start making more reads, but she's probably a villager.

ANYONE SEE SOOH'S LAST READS LIST?!?!!?!?!?!

ZANDER!

When you have an open mind.

Let's dig in a little? FTR - THIS IS NOT ME SHADING YOU. THIS IS ME WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT STUFF AND TRYING PROPER COMMUNICATION TO FIGURE YOU OUT.

I'm Town. Let's do this!

I liked:

The initial question/fact that there's interaction between you and Shad

The excitement

I see differences in our reactions to Shad's answer that I want to explore.

I read the line of Shad's you've highlighted as him giving himself space to flip a view on Sooh either way. To me, the part where he says 'but she's probably a villager' is the key.

The whole thing effectively suggests 'I know how to read her, trust me, I'll catch her if I need to, but you don't have to worry about that'

1. Thoughts??

Could be Shad placing a teammate irt Sooh or it could be an easy read on a Towny.

Darthe · December 3, 2016

Btw,it's really odd that you want to go on me for last game Dice when Zander was really gunning for you too, he just didn't make it on thread first. Can't decide if that's salt or just convenient for you.

@Darthe what is your read on zander?

I have him as town.

Zander? · December 3, 2016

What Zander wrote:

What has Sooh done to make you feel good about her thus far?
Floated through the thread on a feather being happy to be here and saying whatever comes to her mind.

Scum!Sooh is cautious and it's tonally obvious.

If she's a wolf who just had a great early game it will come out when she has to start making more reads, but she's probably a villager.

ANYONE SEE SOOH'S LAST READS LIST?!?!!?!?!?!

ok lmk when youre caught up

start being villagery

really wanna hear your take on Sooh/Eld

*blink*

lolololololololol

@Shad - where are you getting your Sooh meta from?
I'm not sure I even understand this question but I've played/spectated quite a few games with her. I've struggled to read her more in some games than others but I've never been dead wrong.

I dunno Im thinking I may wanna test this....

I don't know if this is a nitpicky word choice thing, but do you think that Random's choice to defend his read on me is an overreaction? The phrase "jump into your defense" seems very strong for what he did which in my opinion was more an explanation of a read.

Is anyone else noticing the random/sock/nyce triangle of town reads on each other since I called out Eldrick's connections post?!??!?!!?

Likely town

Nyce

Random

random hasnt done anything scummy really yet. thats all. nyn had him and zander as light town

she also was leaning town on sock tho i wasnt so sold on sock but that ones a watch and see spot.

Dice: It's surprising that my posts this game haven't drawn the scrutiny from Dice I faced last time, which could be a bad sign for him, or could mean my play's been a bit more solid this game. I've got a slight town vibe from him for the moment

Sock: Sooh hasn't really posted much substance in my opinion either way. Eldrick is doing a good job seeming like he's looking for scum, but I felt a bit weird about how he was so quick to vote manbat after our interaction, and seemed to agree with everything I said. This could be paranoia - I'm not used to being agreed with frequently in mafia. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but that just equals a null read

They're all trending positively on one another to some degree, but I'm not sure what you're getting at with red unless you think scum!Eldrick kicked off the game by informing us that if scum!Nyce is a wolf then scum!Random is too.

The only thing that really sticks out here to me is Random calling Dice town while saying mostly negative things about him, which doesn't say anything about Dice's alignment but leaves me wondering about Random a bit.

@Random can you/did you explain this town vibe?

Ya this pretty much confirms to me theres a Wolf in Sock/Dice/Cass

The only person he really takes issue here is the guy who is like almost confirmed Town Cop.

He's not gonna remove like a quarter of the starting roster from being able to be pushed as ml's imo

What I actually see:

Nudge

Nudge

Nudge

Looking at Pral only for now.

If Zander Villa this looks bad.

If Zander Scum we can't discount light bussing.

Them going hammer and tongs now ITT is a good

Lol

Then why aren't you voting me?

Because she wants to distance herself from you first?!?!!?!?

Darthe · December 3, 2016

I'm at:

Marsh

Random

Zander

Cass

BFG

Laya

Dice

Sock

Those are ordered and I struggled most with switching Zander and cass, but I don't think Zander is ever a wolf with shad considering all that he has done to pick at Shad over RL stuff, and that whole spat.

So Dice... I'm underwhelmed with you pretty badly. You don't seem to have fire. GLGL D4.

Can you talk about Dice/Pral?

Dice is staying under the radar and isn't mad about anything, even when prodded. Dice usually gets mad, and usually is sort of ornery as town as he figures things out, but that hasn't shown up in 150 pages.

Laya I've seen good arguments for him being a teammate, but tbh in my list he is mostly PoE and that I don't read the dude well.

Both are quiet players, and that affects my read too, but I've got a way stronger level of certainty on sock.

Darthe · December 3, 2016

I'm at:

Marsh

Random

Zander

Cass

BFG

Laya

Dice

Sock

Those are ordered and I struggled most with switching Zander and cass, but I don't think Zander is ever a wolf with shad considering all that he has done to pick at Shad over RL stuff, and that whole spat.

So Dice... I'm underwhelmed with you pretty badly. You don't seem to have fire. GLGL D4.

Nevermind. Found it.

Reason I asked.

Zander and I are both seeing the same things in Cass. Why is my case bad and scummy if he is seeing the same thing? Why are you giving me crap about it and not him?

Because of this, because Darthe is treating me like scum and zander like town even though we are making the same cases, seeing and pointing out the same things, I am thinking Darthe might be scum. He has to stick to his scum read of me, but has decided to town read Zander.

Honest to god how do you all not see this JV attempt to try and spin a reads list and just immediately vote this guy? There's well over 200 posts of me talking about things such as my read of zander and it's development due to his tone, some meta that I have on him, and his casework and the exact same thing for Sock and it's getting entirely ignored here just so Eldrick can find a way to say I'm inconsistent so a wolf? Moreover, his point that they are making the same case with a different result isn't even accurate, and he didn't quote any example of his point because he really doesn't have one.

Eldrick, are you lolcatting me? Gr8 b8 m8 try harder.

FFs kill it now, why are we dicking around with a bunch of maybe slots when this great golden ham has been plattered for us?

Zander? · December 3, 2016

I'm at:

Marsh

Random

Zander

Cass

BFG

Laya

Dice

Sock

Those are ordered and I struggled most with switching Zander and cass, but I don't think Zander is ever a wolf with shad considering all that he has done to pick at Shad over RL stuff, and that whole spat.

So Dice... I'm underwhelmed with you pretty badly. You don't seem to have fire. GLGL D4.

Can you talk about Dice/Pral?

Dice is staying under the radar and isn't mad about anything, even when prodded. Dice usually gets mad, and usually is sort of ornery as town as he figures things out, but that hasn't shown up in 150 pages.

Laya I've seen good arguments for him being a teammate, but tbh in my list he is mostly PoE and that I don't read the dude well.

Both are quiet players, and that affects my read too, but I've got a way stronger level of certainty on sock.

hmmmm.

I recall you giving a pretty good Meta assessment on Pral recently that helped me nail him in Overwatch iirc

Darthe · December 3, 2016

As of page 155 I've decided Zander is nuts if he thinks anyone actually either remembers or actually rereads other games just to provide context for a wolf read in a current one. Who has time for that?

On a more serious note, Cass you keep telling Z to shut up and stop and etc, but you should know by now that he doesn't stop a tunnel like this. I don't get why you're trying to tackle that here instead of just casing others and doing your own thing.

Darthe · December 3, 2016

I don't understand where Nyn's irritation comes from (page 25)

As mafia in FF she got irritated with me for questioning her work ethic, so I can't say that human emotion is outside her scum range, but I don't understand in this case why she was irritated.

Probably going to chalk this as null, but liked Dice in thread earlier so lol!me?

Also don't know what to make of Manbat through this, he's more rational/less emotional(?) than I would expect for town!Manbat, but more excited early game than I'd expect from mafia!Manbat

Should we expect 100 pages of these from you? You're still null in my list.

Zander? · December 3, 2016

As of page 155 I've decided Zander is nuts if he thinks anyone actually either remembers or actually rereads other games just to provide context for a wolf read in a current one. Who has time for that?

On a more serious note, Cass you keep telling Z to shut up and stop and etc, but you should know by now that he doesn't stop a tunnel like this. I don't get why you're trying to tackle that here instead of just casing others and doing your own thing.

Because shes a Wolf imo

Zander? · December 3, 2016

Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Cass · December 3, 2016

It looks like I'm missing stuff from Cass at the least which is good to know

Can you explain what you mean about Darthe? There's been some town rally posts from him since start Night 2, but not much actual stuff from him, I don't really know what to make of it Tbh, the timing is good, but the lack of action is eh?

I've been thinking about this. The lack of specific action bothers me because I've seen Darthe attempt to directly rally in previous games so I know he has the capacity. Imo it surfaces when he's having fun/enjoying himself.

He specifically stated earlier he's been chill and happy, focused on the peek going right N1, so you'd think he'd be motivated to pump everyone forward as Town, but the 'rally' attempts feel indirect.

TLDR the amount of effort he puts in isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's harder to work out his actual alignment when he's not giving his all.

@Darthe

I don't wanna debate about whether or not your rallying was Towny.

@Zander - where are you at on Darthe?

@Darthe - where are you at on Z?

How do you explain the fact you haven't wanted to kill each other (from the things I've seen) ?

Has this happened before?

Darthe · December 3, 2016

Ok. Stepped away from my NEED TO SOLVE ZANDER (AND THEN LDO THE ENTIRE GAME) to move on. I'm too conflicted on him right now.

Moved to BFG ISO. Thoughts came in.

Feel less lost in circles and my pep is returning. Apologies for the fizz. Aiming for an approach of healthy rather than rampant paranoia from here.

Deal with it Zander

Ok, I've read maybe 60% of the thread

Marsh

Random

Sock

Zander

Pral

Cass

Darthe

Dice

I can't necessarily explain any of them very well

Sooh is outside the mafia range I have for her, but that's difficult to judge fairly as they've been under pressure for most of the game and it's messing up my read. Eldrick seems to have no filter, but I'd have to look through old games to see if that means anything

Zander's paranoia looks good for him

I think if Pral/Shad were m/m that Pral would have voted with his read Day 1

I remember a lot of questions from Cass but no opinions? I don't remember much from Dice or Darthe outside their pushes on Zander/Sock

First content post. (Posts to here were happy in tone and a breath of fresh air to my brain. Intros, smilies etc). They're objectively null.

No real problems with this at present. Bold above highlighted as additional stuff that goes either way.

Sock

- What is the mafia range you have for Sooh, how was she outside it at this point, how does the pressure they've received mess up the read?

- What, if anything, has changed from then til now?

Sooh

Already highlighted the Calder-quote thing.

Found it possi-scummy reading it initially. Find it scummy on deliberate re-read.

Biggest sticking point on the handling of it is the way she almost simultaneously dropped it and maintained - with attitude- that she wouldn't accept Calder's explanation for the way it appeared. I see no genuine Towny motivation for this given the way the situation unfolded.

The fact that I repeated the experiment and got the same result as Calder puts more focus on WHAT Sooh actually said during the whole thing.

I do not understand her argument, or what she was saying she thought Calder had done. She simply said/repeated that you would get the same results if you copy QTs. My current take on this is HELL NO.

There should be more discussion about this if there hasn't been already.

It alone is enough for me to vote them this phase, but I'm not going to until close to deadline. I'm advocating we use all the time we have to pull together.

Call for more time before Shad's lynch was objectively the Towniest thing I remember from her, regardless of her alignment. It would have benefited Town to hash out everything like the above and be more across things.

I think any 'scum want to use this time' comments would probably be related to fearmongering. Can't remember who said them?

Sooh's call to use the time itself got labelled null, and the 'why do I even bother' type posts read scum to me for possibly deliberate defeatist attitude.

Is vocal frustration like this alignment indicative for Sooh?

She sheeps Pral on a (undeciphered) comment they don't think I'd defend Shad if WW coming into the thread D2. Is this likely Towny consideration, or TMI?

Eldrick's pushes at me read scum to me. Something also feels off about him understanding everything from my perspective until I posted a serious push.

Shad had the slot Town early on too, but was hedgey with it - effectively split his read as Sooh Town, Eldrick probably Town but occasional ? Could be setting them up or giving himself leeway to get around them. I lean toward leeway given the above.

Zander

- I am split on whether it's Town or Scum Zander paranoia from ISO. To early to tell if you're easy-reading him but the thought is there. There were moments in his ISO where I went YES! to what he's thinking but there are times where I go at the way he says/approaches it and historically that has meant he's scum. Concerns for me are wording type stuff and that he occasionally comes across as placating in places TownZander might not. The bits I remember standing out include interactions with Shad and Pral and Darthe and I mostly, IIRC. I mostly skipped setup-discussion stuff. When we hydra'd he generally had a better understanding than me for setup but he missed the fact the BPV we received was only 25%. I've done worse as Town. Put that as null.

Pral

I like it in general, can't remember it in context - sticking point is that Pral himself mentioned in defence against Zander after Shad flip that he's more cautious with his bussing when people who know his meta are around. He quoted Sooh for reference. Sets off alarm bells for me wrt Zander-him. Can't tell yet if it's valid.

Darthe

Biggest concern with Darthe, as ever, is this game I'm reading his non-committal involvement overlayed with Town cheer as false and that it's talk that looks towny on a shallow level but lacks active Town action/leadership on a deeper one. Spooks me out with the Sooh vote.

Dice I haven't looked at specifically over anything. The only things I noticed he mentioned wanting to post a gif for me at some point and hedging that he reads me 0000000% for gif comment is only reaction.

Yey thoughts!

Cheer is kind of overstated. I had a moment when we actually got a wolf in this clusterbang of a game, but does this look like an enthused face to you? :|

Your dice read is amazingly telling for anyone who knows town Dice. Which you should know.

Vote sock? Just do it. You'll see me smile.

Darthe · December 3, 2016

Side note:

Hi all :D

On mobile at work. Have read along to page 5 last night and this page here.

No idea what else is going on yet, let's go!

So...fluff.
And Darthe not willing to do any work.

And img fluff.

Whoa now, im totally working, im just not digging backwards. Thats the past, and I wanna look ahead.

Not willing to go back and read, to develop reads on people, while asking said people what has happened.Not only not counted as working, but actually scummy. That you are willing to accept someone's answer without having a clue if they are town or not.

Without having read anything but this page since I said I was gonna go read, bold feels reachy if serious.

Darthe will walk all over this accusation as either alignment imo, Eldrick are you serious?

What do you mean by 'accept someone's answer' etc? Possibility for spin there seems off.

How else would you expect someone to approach a newcomer here?

Yes, yes I would if I thought that grass needed beating.

I stand by the fact this looks off for Eldrick. The initial suss over something that really doesn't make sense, and then continuing it. The first time I played with Eldrick the thing that triggered me to his scum play was that he perpetuated illogical gaps. I see that here.

@Darthe - The game would move faster if you weren't always so ambiguous :P

Why was beating grass there unnecessary in your opinion?

What was your interpretation of the motivation behind me beating it at the time?

What's your interpretation of the motivation behind me beating it now?

With explanations why please.

idk this was like a hundred pages ago

Zander? · December 3, 2016

It looks like I'm missing stuff from Cass at the least which is good to know

Can you explain what you mean about Darthe? There's been some town rally posts from him since start Night 2, but not much actual stuff from him, I don't really know what to make of it Tbh, the timing is good, but the lack of action is eh?

I've been thinking about this. The lack of specific action bothers me because I've seen Darthe attempt to directly rally in previous games so I know he has the capacity. Imo it surfaces when he's having fun/enjoying himself.

He specifically stated earlier he's been chill and happy, focused on the peek going right N1, so you'd think he'd be motivated to pump everyone forward as Town, but the 'rally' attempts feel indirect.

TLDR the amount of effort he puts in isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's harder to work out his actual alignment when he's not giving his all.

@Darthe

I don't wanna debate about whether or not your rallying was Towny.

@Zander - where are you at on Darthe?

@Darthe - where are you at on Z?

How do you explain the fact you haven't wanted to kill each other (from the things I've seen) ?

Has this happened before?

If Im wrong on you or Pral its Darthe imo but I feel hes been pretty much his normal Town!Darthe self thus far.

Again tho Im not the best Darthe reader

Darthe · December 3, 2016

It looks like I'm missing stuff from Cass at the least which is good to know

Can you explain what you mean about Darthe? There's been some town rally posts from him since start Night 2, but not much actual stuff from him, I don't really know what to make of it Tbh, the timing is good, but the lack of action is eh?

I've been thinking about this. The lack of specific action bothers me because I've seen Darthe attempt to directly rally in previous games so I know he has the capacity. Imo it surfaces when he's having fun/enjoying himself.

He specifically stated earlier he's been chill and happy, focused on the peek going right N1, so you'd think he'd be motivated to pump everyone forward as Town, but the 'rally' attempts feel indirect.

TLDR the amount of effort he puts in isn't necessarily alignment indicative, but it's harder to work out his actual alignment when he's not giving his all.

@Darthe

I don't wanna debate about whether or not your rallying was Towny.

@Zander - where are you at on Darthe?

@Darthe - where are you at on Z?

How do you explain the fact you haven't wanted to kill each other (from the things I've seen) ?

Has this happened before?

Well, it's hard to not talk about something you make a paragraph about but sure.

Yeah, Zander and I occassionally get on the same page early and what usually happens is we turn on each other later. This games just lasting longer than others do on average, probably because we both have tunnels elsewhere that aren't on top townies for one another.

Believe me, if we get to tomorrow and either of us gets our suspect lynched which flips town? That's very likely a war-zone.

Cass · December 3, 2016

What Zander wrote:

What has Sooh done to make you feel good about her thus far?
Floated through the thread on a feather being happy to be here and saying whatever comes to her mind.

Scum!Sooh is cautious and it's tonally obvious.

If she's a wolf who just had a great early game it will come out when she has to start making more reads, but she's probably a villager.

ANYONE SEE SOOH'S LAST READS LIST?!?!!?!?!?!

ok lmk when youre caught up

start being villagery

really wanna hear your take on Sooh/Eld

*blink*

lolololololololol

@Shad - where are you getting your Sooh meta from?
I'm not sure I even understand this question but I've played/spectated quite a few games with her. I've struggled to read her more in some games than others but I've never been dead wrong.

I dunno Im thinking I may wanna test this....

I don't know if this is a nitpicky word choice thing, but do you think that Random's choice to defend his read on me is an overreaction? The phrase "jump into your defense" seems very strong for what he did which in my opinion was more an explanation of a read.

Is anyone else noticing the random/sock/nyce triangle of town reads on each other since I called out Eldrick's connections post?!??!?!!?

Likely town

Nyce

Random

random hasnt done anything scummy really yet. thats all. nyn had him and zander as light town

she also was leaning town on sock tho i wasnt so sold on sock but that ones a watch and see spot.

Dice: It's surprising that my posts this game haven't drawn the scrutiny from Dice I faced last time, which could be a bad sign for him, or could mean my play's been a bit more solid this game. I've got a slight town vibe from him for the moment

Sock: Sooh hasn't really posted much substance in my opinion either way. Eldrick is doing a good job seeming like he's looking for scum, but I felt a bit weird about how he was so quick to vote manbat after our interaction, and seemed to agree with everything I said. This could be paranoia - I'm not used to being agreed with frequently in mafia. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but that just equals a null read

They're all trending positively on one another to some degree, but I'm not sure what you're getting at with red unless you think scum!Eldrick kicked off the game by informing us that if scum!Nyce is a wolf then scum!Random is too.

The only thing that really sticks out here to me is Random calling Dice town while saying mostly negative things about him, which doesn't say anything about Dice's alignment but leaves me wondering about Random a bit.

@Random can you/did you explain this town vibe?

Ya this pretty much confirms to me theres a Wolf in Sock/Dice/Cass

The only person he really takes issue here is the guy who is like almost confirmed Town Cop.

He's not gonna remove like a quarter of the starting roster from being able to be pushed as ml's imo

What I actually see:

Nudge

Nudge

Nudge

Looking at Pral only for now.

If Zander Villa this looks bad.

If Zander Scum we can't discount light bussing.

Them going hammer and tongs now ITT is a good thing

Lol

Then why aren't you voting me?

1. Because I'm not sure of your alignment and I don't often play with votes.

There exist possibilities you might be Town, those are open to interpretation, and I'm not caught up/decided on you yet.

Zander? · December 3, 2016

What Zander wrote:

What has Sooh done to make you feel good about her thus far?
Floated through the thread on a feather being happy to be here and saying whatever comes to her mind.

Scum!Sooh is cautious and it's tonally obvious.

If she's a wolf who just had a great early game it will come out when she has to start making more reads, but she's probably a villager.

ANYONE SEE SOOH'S LAST READS LIST?!?!!?!?!?!

ok lmk when youre caught up

start being villagery

really wanna hear your take on Sooh/Eld

*blink*

lolololololololol

@Shad - where are you getting your Sooh meta from?
I'm not sure I even understand this question but I've played/spectated quite a few games with her. I've struggled to read her more in some games than others but I've never been dead wrong.

I dunno Im thinking I may wanna test this....

I don't know if this is a nitpicky word choice thing, but do you think that Random's choice to defend his read on me is an overreaction? The phrase "jump into your defense" seems very strong for what he did which in my opinion was more an explanation of a read.

Is anyone else noticing the random/sock/nyce triangle of town reads on each other since I called out Eldrick's connections post?!??!?!!?

Likely town

Nyce

Random

random hasnt done anything scummy really yet. thats all. nyn had him and zander as light town

she also was leaning town on sock tho i wasnt so sold on sock but that ones a watch and see spot.

Dice: It's surprising that my posts this game haven't drawn the scrutiny from Dice I faced last time, which could be a bad sign for him, or could mean my play's been a bit more solid this game. I've got a slight town vibe from him for the moment

Sock: Sooh hasn't really posted much substance in my opinion either way. Eldrick is doing a good job seeming like he's looking for scum, but I felt a bit weird about how he was so quick to vote manbat after our interaction, and seemed to agree with everything I said. This could be paranoia - I'm not used to being agreed with frequently in mafia. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but that just equals a null read

They're all trending positively on one another to some degree, but I'm not sure what you're getting at with red unless you think scum!Eldrick kicked off the game by informing us that if scum!Nyce is a wolf then scum!Random is too.

The only thing that really sticks out here to me is Random calling Dice town while saying mostly negative things about him, which doesn't say anything about Dice's alignment but leaves me wondering about Random a bit.

@Random can you/did you explain this town vibe?

Ya this pretty much confirms to me theres a Wolf in Sock/Dice/Cass

The only person he really takes issue here is the guy who is like almost confirmed Town Cop.

He's not gonna remove like a quarter of the starting roster from being able to be pushed as ml's imo

What I actually see:

Nudge

Nudge

Nudge

Looking at Pral only for now.

If Zander Villa this looks bad.

If Zander Scum we can't discount light bussing.

Them going hammer and tongs now ITT is a good thing

Lol

Then why aren't you voting me?

1. Because I'm not sure of your alignment and I don't often play with votes.

There exist possibilities you might be Town, those are open to interpretation, and I'm not caught up/decided on you yet.

Yet you voted Amega without even casing her first!?!?!?!?!?

Darthe · December 3, 2016

Dice made a post about me that I'm missing right now but my hackles were risen. It was all about not liking my slot because of a past game and wanting to policy lynch me before which, I guess if you don't have a real reason to vote me, can work in a pinch.

Darthe · December 3, 2016

I'm at:

Marsh

Random

Zander

Cass

BFG

Laya

Dice

Sock

Those are ordered and I struggled most with switching Zander and cass, but I don't think Zander is ever a wolf with shad considering all that he has done to pick at Shad over RL stuff, and that whole spat.

So Dice... I'm underwhelmed with you pretty badly. You don't seem to have fire. GLGL D4.

Can you talk about Dice/Pral?

Dice is staying under the radar and isn't mad about anything, even when prodded. Dice usually gets mad, and usually is sort of ornery as town as he figures things out, but that hasn't shown up in 150 pages.

Laya I've seen good arguments for him being a teammate, but tbh in my list he is mostly PoE and that I don't read the dude well.

Both are quiet players, and that affects my read too, but I've got a way stronger level of certainty on sock.

hmmmm.

I recall you giving a pretty good Meta assessment on Pral recently that helped me nail him in Overwatch iirc

Wow look, you remember something I don't. That's new.

But seriously, even if you did provide me with that I couldn't trust it in this game since I do not know your alignment.

Zander? · December 3, 2016

Dice made a post about me that I'm missing right now but my hackles were risen. It was all about not liking my slot because of a past game and wanting to policy lynch me before which, I guess if you don't have a real reason to vote me, can work in a pinch.

Town!Dice talks about shooting me hoping Im the Cop for getting him mislynched a whole bunch of times.

If its the ONLY reason then maybe but him mentioning that prolly Null imo.

Sooh · December 3, 2016

Also - you would never unvote here unless you knew this case was bull.
Don't you dare tell me what I would or wouldn't do.

THAT is bull

No it isnt. This game is all about trying to figure out what people would or wouldnt do. Dont act like I am out of line. I'm objectively not.

Well just FYI I'm not backtracking anything here. I believe in my case. Don't try to tell me what I think, because you don't know.

So no response to when I laid out how the code you have an issue with comes from your post?

It can't.

This forum doesn't use html in posts.

I dont think Scum!Sooh would try to push something like that

Why not?

Sooh, why didn't you try quoting it yourself?

From possibly the QT we know your in with your Hydra partner.
Nice try. It doesn't translate to here. Look at the post Zander quoted from BFG.

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="Sooh" data-cid="3732601" data-time="1480543471">Sooh, on 30 Nov 2016 - 5:04 PM, said:<p>Ok g'night Be lovely to each other

Ok g'night

Be lovely to each other <3

test

^^^That is what you get if you quote Sooh's post and then hit more reply options to view before posting.

That blockquote stuff is in your post.

What browser and equipment are you using?

Like seriously, if nobody can recreate this, and you can't explain it so that it happens again, I'm not buying your explanation for how it happened.

I just posted it twice.

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="Sooh" data-cid="3732601" data-time="1480543471">Sooh, on 30 Nov 2016 - 5:04 PM, said:<p>Ok g'night Be lovely to each other

Another problem is if this is from my post, where are the rest of the tags? if this was in my post without closing the tags, all that jibberjabber would be in the original post.

Like seriously, if nobody can recreate this, and you can't explain it so that it happens again, I'm not buying your explanation for how it happened.

I just posted it twice.

Yeah, that's not the same as somebody else recreating it.

Yea obv - But I cant make someone else do that.

Look, if somebody proves to me that it's possible, I'll drop it immediately. I just don't think it's possible without a QT being involved, and I didn't copy and paste a goodnight message from my QT into the thread.

& Sometimes people dont know what they are talking about and angleshoot anyway.

I don't know why my push bothers you so much. clearly nobody else believes me.

I don't have to POST it to TRY it.

EVERYBODY WITH A PHONE

DO WHAT CALDER SAID

GO BACK TO PAGE 87

Click on Sooh's Quote. Click more reply options. See what comes up.

What came up for me was exactly what Calder had posted.

If more people can corroborate this, I believe we have # 2 wolf.

Why, if she's Town trying to figure Calder out, does she insist on talking about QTs instead of trying what Calder did ITT and THEN giving her results/encouraging others to try?

We're back here? Really?

Was I not encouraging ANYONE to do what Calder did to prove it to me? I attempted every option I could think of before accusing him, and even as the discussion was going on. I tend to not post stuff that clutters the thread to test theories when I know full well they'll show if I put them as previews.

Obviously I was wrong, but seriously? This is such a bad push.

Darthe · December 3, 2016

Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Why for the love of all things holy are Dice and Sock not even in your PoE?? I don't get how every player this game has totally different reads and yet no one is discrediting one another for them

Zander? · December 3, 2016

I'm at:

Marsh

Random

Zander

Cass

BFG

Laya

Dice

Sock

Those are ordered and I struggled most with switching Zander and cass, but I don't think Zander is ever a wolf with shad considering all that he has done to pick at Shad over RL stuff, and that whole spat.

So Dice... I'm underwhelmed with you pretty badly. You don't seem to have fire. GLGL D4.

Can you talk about Dice/Pral?

Dice is staying under the radar and isn't mad about anything, even when prodded. Dice usually gets mad, and usually is sort of ornery as town as he figures things out, but that hasn't shown up in 150 pages.

Laya I've seen good arguments for him being a teammate, but tbh in my list he is mostly PoE and that I don't read the dude well.

Both are quiet players, and that affects my read too, but I've got a way stronger level of certainty on sock.

hmmmm.

I recall you giving a pretty good Meta assessment on Pral recently that helped me nail him in Overwatch iirc

Wow look, you remember something I don't. That's new.

But seriously, even if you did provide me with that I couldn't trust it in this game since I do not know your alignment.

WAIT....you wont trust me giving you, YOUR OWN assessment of Pral in a game where YOU WERE TOWN?!!?!?!?!?

Darthe · December 3, 2016

Nicci and I are going to Dr. Strange this evening. Anyone seen it?

Zander? · December 3, 2016

Also if Im wrong on Cass or Pral, its Darthe imo

Why for the love of all things holy are Dice and Sock not even in your PoE?? I don't get how every player this game has totally different reads and yet no one is discrediting one another for them

My PoE only changing once I KNOW if Im wrong about Cass/Pral, I need at least one of their flips before Im gonna be able to look past it.

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