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I would guess Cory's town.

 

In general the vote switching he did is more likely from town him, I can't remember the Alts game particularly well, but pretty much every other mafia game I've seen from him is characterized (in part) by being focused at end of day on a lynch. If he's mafia then there were 3 town being pushed, there's no need to introduce Sooh.

 

If he did it to mess with us then I'd expect himto be having more 'fun' now

I don't see why. All the three trains were town. There was quite an incentive to switch votes as scum at that point.

But it's something I don't think I've ever seen mafia!Cory do

 

 

Do you see him AtE like this as town? The last 2 pages are full of it. 

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I would guess Cory's town.

 

In general the vote switching he did is more likely from town him, I can't remember the Alts game particularly well, but pretty much every other mafia game I've seen from him is characterized (in part) by being focused at end of day on a lynch. If he's mafia then there were 3 town being pushed, there's no need to introduce Sooh.

 

If he did it to mess with us then I'd expect himto be having more 'fun' now

I don't see why. All the three trains were town. There was quite an incentive to switch votes as scum at that point.
But it's something I don't think I've ever seen mafia!Cory do

Do you see him AtE like this as town? The last 2 pages are full of it.

Yes?

 

Id need to check specific games to see if there are differences in the way he ATEs on alignment

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I don't see myself voting BFG, Nyn, Sooh or Liz today.

 

That leaves Kat, csarmi and Cory. I bet atleast a couple of scum has to be in here.

The only person in that list that Cory could be scum with is Csarmi, Cory/Kat aren't m/m

 

Nyns the only other player in the game that he could be on a team with, extreme out chance of Liz or you

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Let's talk about what AtE actually means and how to apply it to your reads without being a total clown

 

What is AtE? Standing for APPEAL TO EMOTION, AtE is generally a buzzword for when somebody gets frustrated in a mafia game (what a bunch of losers!! all the cool people are robots!!)

 

"But is it villagery or wolfy?"

 

Well I'm imagine it would depend on the situation.

 

"No!! It has to be one or the other."

 

Have you thought about the reasons for their frustration? Are they frustrated they aren't being read a certain way? Are they frustrated with the gamestate? Are they frustrated with an inability to get their suspects lynched? What is the source - analyze the cause and maybe you can glean into their mind and intent

 

"No stfu cory it's either universally wolfy or villagery"

 

Thanks

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One of the things that Cory does as scum is to put people/town down and force them to accept that they are making a mistake. It usually deters people because they don't want to end up wrong. 

 

This are some of the posts from the Alt game that I was talking about (He was playing as Sili). Look how close they are to this game. Do go through that game to see scum Cory. And no, he wasn't exactly trolling till late in the game. 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=&sid=2c68309e05a418eb11b2a2194745909a&search_author=Sili_mafia&search_app_filters[forums][sortKey]=date&search_app_filters[forums][sortDir]=1&cType=topic&cId=96126&search_content=both&search_app_filters[forums][sortKey]=date&search_app_filters[forums][sortDir]=1&search_app_filters[forums][noPreview]=1&search_app_filters[forums][pCount]=&search_app_filters[forums][pViews]=&search_app_filters[forums][searchInKey]=&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=75

 

 

 

 

 

i hve little patience for stupid questions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

im ignoring zander. considering the blatancy of it all there is nothing more annoying than someone who is wrong and he doesnt deserve to wield the zander title for acting the way he does.

 

my reads are strong enough to warrant consideration and ive been reading every post and considering every possible angle i can, but so many players have put a ton of effort into making me a joke bc of i made some jokes about who i randed. what did you expect when you signed up for the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zander you should rly think before you post. Or think at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

it's probably just darthe csarmi. if so my reads were magnificent and you all should be ashamed for doubting me ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

ignore the mass claim thing, that's just lazy play and im better than that and were better than that. let's just lynch the wolves instead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

im trying not to get distracted by zander. eveyr post he makes annoys me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

i stopped emulating sili about 20 posts into my filter. have you actually read anything?

 

like literally anything?

 

 

 

 

 

 

if thats how you make reads i dont know what to tell you.

 

youve probably been fooled by some pretty bad wolves who "dumbtold" enough to get on your good side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[V]Sili I've played this half claim BS myself, I refuse to let someone else get away with it.

 

The way your talking is as if you only care about stopping us lynching you, not winning the game.

 

 

 

 

get away from me.

 

 

 

 

 

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I WAS PRETENDING TO BE SILI QUIRRELS AND WAS HAVING AN OKAY TIME DESPITE NEITHER OF MY WOLFBROS SHOWING AND CONCEEDING AS SOON AS I FELT I COULDN'T WIN

 

WAS RUFFLING FEATHERS

 

LEARN TO UNDERSTAND CONTEXT

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I don't even care about Pral being like this

 

But we might legitimately need his vote to win so if we're not gonna win can we just fastforward so I can gtfo out of this garbage game

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Eh, I'm at work so can't write paragraphs.

 

Short version is that until Matrix saying that Cory ATEs inwards as town and outwards as mafia was a pretty decent difference.

 

Since Matrix Cory has worked really hard (as far as I can tell, I haven't seen him as mafia often) on stopping the ATE outwards as mafia (in particular) and it's no longer a reliable tell (it was one of my main arguments against him in SA, in which we almost got him mislynched (sorry Cory)).

 

I think it's now pretty much situational dependent

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Pral who are you voting

I am voting you

 

[v]Cory[/v]

Hey remember that time in Wind In The Door where I kept telling you I can read monstr and that he was an obvious villager but you refused to vote anyone else

 

Hey remember that time in Ragnarok where I kept telling you Mish was an obvious villager but you kept tunnelling her anyway

 

Hey remember in the last game we played where Sooh was an obvious villager and I cleared her and died and you lynched her at lylo

 

Stop doing stuff like this it drives me fricking nuts

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I am mad at zero of the wolves in SA, they played well. was mad at myself for having bad reads and a lot of the village for chasing the dumbest red herrings all game

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I really generally don't get mad about mafia related things outside of mafia games unless someone is treating someone very poorly which at least hasn't happened too much here or at least in comparison to what I'm used to

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I WAS PRETENDING TO BE SILI QUIRRELS AND WAS HAVING AN OKAY TIME DESPITE NEITHER OF MY WOLFBROS SHOWING AND CONCEEDING AS SOON AS I FELT I COULDN'T WIN

 

WAS RUFFLING FEATHERS

 

LEARN TO UNDERSTAND CONTEXT

Like I said, the "trolling" started late in the game where it was beyond pretending to be SIli. Until people started suspecting you, you were naturally playing the game. It is when you started getting heat that started making posts which is eerily similar to how you are posting in this game.

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I am mad at zero of the wolves in SA, they played well. was mad at myself for having bad reads and a lot of the village for chasing the dumbest red herrings all game

Not really the point I was making :unsure:

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I wish some of you would wise up bc I'm tired of losing every villager game here after my strong witd-dragon reborn run bc nobody wants to work together and uses completely random diagnostics to read people

 

The MU game had a lot of meh behavior but people were making reads for good reasons and that always goes a long way

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I WAS PRETENDING TO BE SILI QUIRRELS AND WAS HAVING AN OKAY TIME DESPITE NEITHER OF MY WOLFBROS SHOWING AND CONCEEDING AS SOON AS I FELT I COULDN'T WIN

 

WAS RUFFLING FEATHERS

 

LEARN TO UNDERSTAND CONTEXT

Like I said, the "trolling" started late in the game where it was beyond pretending to be SIli. Until people started suspecting you, you were naturally playing the game. It is when you started getting heat that started making posts which is eerily similar to how you are posting in this game.

> I was never playing seriously a moment of the alt game. A lot of what I did that game was troll Lenlo (who was on the zander alt) bc I quickly recognized it was Len and I like messing with him sometimes.

 

> it is nothing like my play here at all. Go look at my eod1 of the alt game or most high equity situations or how willing I am to directly communicate or many of the other real tells people have on me

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