[Basic] Pirates of the Caribbean (Curse of the Black Pearl) Game Thread - D2

dyachei · October 10, 2016

Tiink, I've been commenting on it since yesterday when I thought I was gonna die overnight.

If you look at my pralaya post from yesterday, you should know where I stand. But I'm going to go over things again

Tiinker · October 10, 2016

Link it to me?

dyachei · October 10, 2016

Well, I started the pralaya ISO.

if he's scum, he deserves the win. Early suspicion on Besie and defense of tiink. reads list later looks bad - full town on sooh and null to town on besie despite earlier suspicions. Gets back to besie scum on d2. his ISO on sooh also leads to the besie conclusion. And he pushed her from that point on

you've played with him before, correct, monstr?

here, tiink

Tiinker · October 10, 2016

and lol you commented on her not voting that lynch that's hardly commenting on her voting patterns through the game at all. It seems clear as day to me just from looking at that that Pral is town and WiFi isn't. if it's not to you then point out why and let's talk about it but it's a waste of time to no lynch and what was said in the past 4 days holds 10x the weight of anything said today. Let's discuss what's happened previously.

dyachei · October 10, 2016

Tiink, you do realize I think it's wifi, right? And that I'm just rereading things because I don't like to rush into things?

Pralaya · October 10, 2016

Well, I started the pralaya ISO.

if he's scum, he deserves the win. Early suspicion on Besie and defense of tiink. reads list later looks bad - full town on sooh and null to town on besie despite earlier suspicions. Gets back to besie scum on d2. his ISO on sooh also leads to the besie conclusion. And he pushed her from that point on

you've played with him before, correct, monstr?

here, tiink

To clarify it, I have not played a proper game with Besie (there was one in which I had some personal problems and didn't interact much in the game). I don't know her meta and in any case, I am a player who relies on vote patterns to make reads. After D1 lynch, I had Besie as scum mostly because of her being on the Calder lynch and my surmise that scum had to be divided to create v/v trains.

Tiinker · October 10, 2016

Official Vote count

Tiinker (1): Besie

Besie (1): Tiinker

Not voting (4): The rest of you lot.

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Official Vote count

Besie (2): Tiinker, monstr

Tiinker (1): Besie

Not voting (3): Wifi, Pral, dyachei

Official Vote count

Besie (1): Tiinker

Not voting (5): Wifi, Pral, dyachei, Besie, monstr

Official Vote count

Besie (2): Tiinker, Pral

Tiinker (1): Besie

Not voting (3): Wifi, dyachei, manbat

Official Vote count

Tiinker (2): Besie, Wifi

Besie (2): Tiinker, Pral

Not voting (2): manbat, dyachei

Official Vote count

Tiinker (3): Besie, Wifi, manbat

Besie (2): Tiinker, Pral

Not voting (1): dyachei

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

If scum wanted to try and win yesterday then it's WiFi. Pral could've hammered here. Even if he was going to be asleep/not around for deadline he wouldn't have placed a vote on Besie to hit his teammate and left it there knowing he wouldn't be around for deadline.

[v]WiFi[/v]

I hate it when people jump into a lynch tiink. You're lucky you're probably clear because from anyone else I would be scumreading it.

Also lolwolves for killing manbat over me.

Then what is the point of this post lol just to voice your annoyance at me?

Tiinker · October 10, 2016

Eyebrows raised. Guess we'll just have to wait a few hours for WiFi and her scum pals to come up with something.

dyachei · October 10, 2016

my point was that it is a scummy move, tiink. And if shes not a wolf for some reason, we could have a hammer happen quickly

Wildfire Sedai · October 10, 2016

Official Coin count

Besie (2): Darthe, Zander

Believer (1): dice

dice (1): Believer

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (9): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

So here we have wolf:Besie w/ 2 votes right from get go. Yet she somehow manages to get Darthe and zander to vote elsewhere and Is not thought of for a lynch for the rest of D1.

Official Coin Count

Believer (2): dice, Zander

dice (1): Believer

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (10): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Now its a v/v train and remains v/v to v/v/v to v/v/v/v trains throughout the day. :dry: I am including Nolder as a "v" just to make things easier to figure out.

Official Coin Count

Believer (2): dice, Zander

dice (1): Believer

Darthe (1): Besie

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (9): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Nothing important here. Besie votes darthe. Does she think he's the cop?

Official Coin Count

Believer (2): dice, Zander

dice (1): Believer

Darthe (1): Besie

Zander (1): Calder

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (8): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

nothing here either....continuing on...

Official Coin Count

Believer (2): dice, Zander

Zander (2): Calder, manbat

dice (1): Believer

Darthe (1): Besie

Tiinker (1): Sooh

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (6): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Here we have sooh voting tiink. Now I know she gave some reasons why she thought him scum, but hey SHE was SCUM and KNEW he was town IF he is town. She had FOUR TOWN trains she could have voted on yet she chose to vote tiink. WHY??? To DISTANCE herself from him.

Official Coin Count

Zander (3): Calder, manbat, Darthe

Believer (2): dice, Zander

dice (1): Believer

Darthe (1): Besie

Tiinker (1): Sooh

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (5): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Both besie and sooh have not moved as of yet. Trying to show that they are town by staying on their "lynch" candidates.

Official Coin Count

Zander (4): Calder, manbat, Darthe, Sooh

Believer (2): dice, Zander

dice (1): Believer

Darthe (1): Besie

Calder (1): Tiinker

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (4): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Here sooh moves to zander giving him the most votes so far. Besie sticks to darthe so far and tiink has finally voted, calder. Hmm...he was NK'd N1 and he's the first person tiink votes D1.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Zander (4): Calder, manbat, Darthe, Sooh

Believer (2): dice, Zander

dice (2): Believer, Nego

Darthe (1): Besie

Calder (1): Tiinker

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (4): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

count stays same that I am looking at.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Zander (5): Calder, manbat, Darthe, Sooh, Tinker

Believer (2): dice, Zander

dice (2): Believer, Nego

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (4): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Here tiink goes onto zander from calder, giving zander 5 votes. besie unvotes.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Zander (4): Calder, Darthe, Sooh, Tinker

Calder (2): Besie, Zander

dice (1): Nego

Believer (1): dice

Nolder (1): Believer

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (4): The rest of you wankers.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

besie votes calder, sooh and tiink stay on zander.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Zander (4): Calder, Darthe, Sooh, Tiinker

Calder (3): Besie, Zander, Pral

dice (1): Nego

Believer (1): dice

Nolder (1): Believer

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (3): monster, Hellian, Nolder

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

same. continuing on...

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Calder (4): Besie, Zander, Pral, monstr

Zander (3): Calder, Sooh, Tiinker

Nolder (2): Believer, Darthe

dice (1): Nego

Believer (1): dice

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (2): Hellian, Nolder

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Alot of people unvoted and voted again but sooh and tiink stayed on zander and besie stayed on calder.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Calder (4): Besie, Zander, Pral, dice

Zander (3): Calder, Sooh, Tiinker

Nolder (3): Believer, Darthe, monstr

dice (1): Nego

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (2): Hellian, Nolder

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

same

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Zander (4): Calder, Sooh, Tiinker, Darthe

Calder (4): Besie, Zander, Pral, monstr

Nolder (2): Believer, dice

dice (1): Nego

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (2): Hellian, Nolder

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

D1 FINAL VOTE COUNT:

Zander (5): Calder, Sooh, Tiinker, Darthe, monstr

Calder (4): Besie, Zander, Pral, dice

Nolder (1): Believer

dice (1): Nego

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (2 ): Hellian, Nolder

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

So as far as D1 is concerned I think it shows that the wolves on zanders train were sooh and tiink cause aorn you all say monstr is confirmed townie...I was not here to vote D1.

OR There could have been 2 wolves on Calders train Besie and Pral. Just saying.

Wildfire Sedai · October 10, 2016

Savvy Vote Count

Believer (2): manbat, Darthe

Darthe (1): Believer

Waiting for the opportune moment (8): The rest of you lot.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

So nothing interesting here. two townie trains. no scum on them or current players.

Savvy Vote Count

Tiinker (3): Besie, Nolder, Believer

Besie (3): manbat, Tiinker, Pral

Believer (2): Darthe, Sooh

Waiting for the opportune moment (3): dice, Wifi, Nego.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

Okay here we have 1 confirmed townie and 1 confirmed scum train, then we have tiink. I think tiink could be scum, WAIT JUST LISTEN FOR A MINUTE, I will explain as I go. So I think besie and tiink planned this whole "fight" right from the get go and kept it up to get one of them as deep wolf, it ended up being tiink. I so believe they would bus each other and I know sooh busses.

Savvy Vote Count

Believer (1): Darthe

Darthe (1): Believer

Sooh (1): manbat

Waiting for the opportune moment (8): The rest of you lot.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

So like everybody switched up their votes or so it seems. Except for darthe.

Savvy Vote Count

Believer (1): Darthe

Darthe (1): Believer

Nego (1): Tiinker

Besie (1): manbat

Waiting for the opportune moment (7): The rest of you lot.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

Besie got back on the board with manbat. No wolves voting now...

Savvy Vote Count

Believer (1): Darthe

Nego (1): Tiinker

Besie (1): manbat

monstr (1): Believer

Waiting for the opportune moment (7): The rest of you lot.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

still no wolves voting...

Savvy Vote Count

Besie (2): manbat, Tiinker

Believer (1): Darthe

monstr (1): Believer

Tiinker (1): Besie

Waiting for the opportune moment (6): The rest of you lot.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

Here we finally have tiink and besie voting each other again. Real surprise.

Savvy Vote Count

Besie (2): manbat, Tiinker

Tiinker (2): Besie, Nolder

Believer (1): Darthe

monstr (1): Believer

Waiting for the opportune moment (5): The rest of you lot.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

same: sooh hasn't voted since first VC.

Savvy Vote Count

Tiinker (3): Besie, Nolder, Believer

Besie (2): manbat, Tiinker

Believer (2): Darthe, Sooh

Waiting for the opportune moment (4): The rest of you lot.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

finally sooh votes again...

Savvy Vote Count

Tiinker (3): Besie, Nolder, Believer

Besie (3): manbat, Tiinker, Pral

Believer (2): Darthe, Sooh

Waiting for the opportune moment (3): dice, Wifi, Nego.

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

Pral decides to vote again also. otherwise the votes stay the same.

Savvy Vote Count

Besie (3): manbat, Tiinker, Pral

Tiinker (2): Besie, Nolder

Believer (2): Darthe, Sooh

Sooh (1): Believer

Waiting for the opportune moment (3): dice, Wifi, diachei

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

Pral moves over to besie, besie still on tiink and vise versa. sooh still on believer.

Savvy Vote Count

Besie (3): manbat, Tiinker, Pral

Believer (3): Darthe, Sooh, Wifi

Tiinker (2): Besie, Nolder

Sooh (1): Believer

Waiting for the opportune moment (2): dice, diachei

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

same..

Savvy Vote Count

Believer (5): Darthe, Sooh, Wifi, Tiinker, dice

Besie (2): manbat, Pral

Tiinker (2): Besie, Nolder

Sooh (1): Believer

Waiting for the opportune moment (1): diachei

With 11 players alive, it take 6 to lynch.

I finally vote. I voted for believer cause he was the only one besides sooh who I had at the time who was scummy and had more than 1 vote on him. Tiink moves from besie to believer because she was getting high votes and he doesn't want his scummate to get lynched.

Final D2 Savvy Vote Count

Believer (6): Darthe, Sooh, Wifi, Tiinker, dice, Besie

Besie (2): manbat, Pral

Tiinker (1): Nolder

Sooh (1): Believer

Waiting for the opportune moment (1): diachei

It's a lynch.

Here besie switches from tiink to believer for the lynch. very convenient. but wait Pral is still on besie. I know Pral likes to bus. and would all three wolves go on believers train?? Maybe. Maybe not. *thinking* I still think tiink COULD be last mafia. I am setting up possibilities. Possibilities where I am NOT mafia, cause I know I am NOT. AND I think its tiink cause of his rush to lynch me. dya said it herself, it looks scummy. OR Pral because he is the deeper wolf and has been sliding under the radar...will show that too if I have enough time.

Wildfire Sedai · October 10, 2016

Official Vote Acount

Tiinker (3): Nolder, Wifi, dyachei

Nolder (3): Darthe, Pral, Besie

Not voting (2): manbat, Tiinker

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

So we have the possibility of a wolf and a 3p lynch. Besie and Pral know that nolder is atleast not wolf so he must be town. They would not know he is 3p, it would screw up game mechanics. However do notice that besie who has been on tiink throughout the whole game is not on him now? why is that? Because before he was never in danger of a lynch. Here he would be.

Official Vote Acount

Nolder (4): Pral, Besie, manbat, Tiinker

Tiinker (3): Nolder, Wifi, dyachei

Not voting (1): Darthe

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Here darthe comes off of nolder in order to be hammer. Pral, Besie and tiinker are on again. (which of Pral/tiink are the wolf??) that is the ultimate question.

D3 Final Vote Count

Nolder (5): Pral, Besie, manbat, Tiinker, Wifi

Tiinker (2): Nolder, dyachei

Not voting (1): Darthe

IT'S A LYNCH.

I switched do to nolder's wishes: he didn't want darthe to be the one to hammer. otherwise I would have stayed on tiink.

Wildfire Sedai · October 10, 2016

So I think tiink and besie orchestrated their "fights" throughout the game so, that they cleared each other if one of them was lynched. Just like what happened. I know that tiink likes to bus. I have never played with besie but I figure if she likes wolfin as much as she says she does then she probably likes to bus as well. And as I've shown in my vote reviews, they've only bussed each other just enough to lay a foundation. When it came close to one of them getting lynched they backed off and voted someone else.

more to come....

Tiinker · October 10, 2016

my point was that it is a scummy move, tiink. And if shes not a wolf for some reason, we could have a hammer happen quickly

No because basic math says three people need to vote and she's not going to vote for herself. Basically if you don't vote her she doesn't get lynched so yes it is pointless.

Wildfire Sedai · October 10, 2016

ISO on Pralaya:

I haven't played with Besie before. Just modded a game she was in. Looks like she was wolf in all except one. Does she AtE like this in her wolf games?

Here distancing from Besie.

I haven't played with Besie before. Just modded a game she was in. Looks like she was wolf in all except one. Does she AtE like this in her wolf games?

What AtE?

"You always get me lynched :(", kind of posts

More distancing from besie.

Ok, caught up from yesterday. Thankfully not as much pages as I expected !

I do not have experience with a lot of people in this game. Haven't played with Besie, Nego. Played just a handful of games with manbat and calder, don't remember much how they play.

That said, I wanted to know how Blesie played because I kinda saw some kind of appealing tone in this game. I know that she has only played one town game so far and I went ahead and checked it (Lost Mafia- notice her tone. She sounded similar as she is here - excited, analyzing etc. She got mislynched D2 in that game.

I don't see anything that has stood out from her so far this game.

Basically saying he likes her game so far (Paraphrasing)

Sooh and Zander are looking like I have always seen them D1. Never been able to read them right. I like sooh better of the two. She looks more focused and reasoning.

Likes sooh. sooh is wolf.

So, Besie, want to hear from you. What did you do different in your town game as compared to your wolf games?

Asking besie about her meta, when he professes that he is not a meta player??

So, Besie, want to hear from you. What did you do different in your town game as compared to your wolf games?

Lol, as scum I lived in the fake impression of trying to be town even when I was scum. So when I was town I just attempted the same.

The biggest difference is that I actually don't know who the scum were in that game, as this game - and that should come out in my posts.

Whilst we're talking: You haven't really said much at all this game. Have you formed an opinion? Who do you think the scum are?

So, a problem of TMI. Good to know.

I gave my thoughts a couple of pages back. Nothing much has stood out as scum so far and i am getting my town reads away.

Something that slightly pinged me during my read is manbat.. Especially this post/ It looked like he was trying to take advantage of sooh's read of Tinker, while not calling it out explicitly. It stood out as odd to me.

says manbat slightly pinged him about a sooh post on tiink.

Before I go to sleep, below is what I think so far. Still a bit to catch up, will do tomorrow.

Tiinklove - I mentioned about how he plays it safe when he is scum. I have played with him as scum and it definitely is not the same tone here. Yes, he went aggressive on Zander. He was dismissive when asked for reads. I dont see him do these things that would get him attention if he was scum. Townie

Sooh - Has been active and reasonable in her reads. There are some posts that I liked - for example, her response to Zander when she talked about low posters or the way she was rethinking her reads as the game progressed . I had her as scum in Black Metal game when she was town and I see some bit of that impulsiveness in her play. Townie

Monstr - I liked his responses when I mentioned about a few suspicion I had on him. Based on others who have played with him, he gets emotional sometimes and that it is normal for him. When my argument with him ended, this post looks like it is coming from a villager. I would have expected scum to take advantage but that was good response.

Darthe - He is more enthusiastic, inquisitive that I think he is mostly town. I think it could be for the fact that a lot of players in this game are known to him already. He has commented pretty much on all players. But, he is also someone who can mask well as scum and I have bitter, personal experience of that. For now, he is town.

Zander - I have never been able to read him right. He has been less active this game - presumably because of the other game we are playing which is more critical. I see him getting heat for it. I am just seeing the same tone he has in all the other games I have played with him. Nothing specifically stands out from him. Null to town.

Besie - I have pretty much given my opinion of her earlier. Most of the early votes on her stemmed from people who kind of knew her meta. Especially zander insisted that he knows her very well and this is not her town game. I frankly don't know how she plays but what she posted hasn't exactly stood out as scum. Null to town

Nego - No idea about his meta. First game with him. Has a lot of posts that has seemed fine. Pretty much straightforward type of posts. But, no idea on his game so far without a knowledge of his meta. Null

Believer - He said the same thing about his disinterest in D1 in the other game where he was town. Pretty much the same opening lines, the same tone. . Probably will be able to resolve with more information later in the game. Null

Nolder - Has hardly posted but he seems to be saying that he is catching. Have been in the same position a lot of times, so I understand. I would say, null.

Hellian - He is in this game?

Calder - Something about him, the way he jokes about being scum doesn't sit right with me. Like this, this or his first post. I know it is meant as a joke and I guess he would be doing the same in other games but repeating the same thing in a number of posts looks fake to me. It is something scum can easily hide behind. He has been focused on Tink and zander pretty much the whole game and i feel some sense of nudgniness in his posts. Gut says he is scum.

Dice - He has so far gone on Believer and tink in this game. Both are easy votes - especially given Believer's unwillingness to play D1 a lot and tinker's vote/unvote of zander. Both are easy to latch on to and push as scum. Responses like this seems forced and nudgy. I don't see his game here similar to the other games where I have seen him town.

sooh and besie have town reads from him. If I didn't think game would have been over yesterday, I would think that there were 4 wolves sooh/besie/tiink/pral but I am not sure that is possible mechanically wise along with a 3p. Dya what do you think?

Yeah man, what is going on. Is everyone derping this game or what? Looks like I gotta rely on my boy Pral this game. I think some of you are town but like I genuinely don't follow the thoughts this game.

Pral what do you think about Besie/Nego w/w and Dice? Those are my top 3.

Looking at the trains on D1, I think Besie is wolf. Other than Zander and me, Besie and Dice were the only ones on the Calder train.
Dice is a wild card mostly because of the EoD stuff. If he is wolf, the only reason why he would do all those juggling and gain attention would be to push a Calder lynch assuming him to be PR or something. I didn't notice any Calder post which gave away his PR.So, for now, benefit of doubt to dice.

Nego is likely town. His thoughts and reads match closely with mine. It also doesn't make any sense of him calling out Calder as scum during the night and then NK him.

Pral saying besie wolf. Distancing.

Don't really see Calder train being completely town. She voted Calder casually and didn't even change it till the end. My bet is on her being scum

[v]Besie[/v]

bussing.

Essentially, I see a lot of focus from Sooh on Besie and Tinker both. She votes Tinker but I didn't feel it was serious enough. Because, she votes him with an intention of voting zander sooner or later, which she does. Her parked vote on Tinker is something that intrigues me.

She also flip-flops on Besie throughout D1. She defends her initially when she had heat and then calls her scum and then goes back to feeling her towny. A lot of her interactions on D1 were with Besie.

She also had some minor interaction comments on Darthe, Nolder etc. The main thing that comes out is that manbat is most likely not a wolf with sooh.

I think the scum is in tink/besie - maybe both. Definitely seeing connections there. I am more pressed towards Besie than tink, tbh.

Here Pralaya is saying what I am saying though he is letting tiink off the hook. Why, I don't know??? Pral??

Also, BEsie voting TInker and unvoting immediately is interesting to say the least.

This is a good point.

Ok so dyachei I reread sooh's iso and the funny thing is, sooh says a lot about killing besie d1, but all that's gone d2 when she notably doesn't ever put a vote on besie and even starts talking to her as though her opinions mattered

Besie also had the most notable activity drop d2 I think, she went from one of the top posters to not saying much at all and afaict the trend is only continuing

So idk I'm not convinced she can't be on a team with sooh

Exactly my thoughts.

been there done that. distancing maybe...or maybe townie solving ??

it is definitely Besie. All her votes, all 3 days have been wolfy.

distancing or bingo???

Okay. I'm going with

[v]Tiinker[/v]

Definitely not town. Today is LyLo and I don't see town jumping in without deliberations.

If tink and besie are scum, this is a classic distancing last-ditch effort move.If one of them is lynched, looks like the other is clear but at this point, it doesn't make sense. Besie is kind of a newbie, would totally expect her to do it.

You said it again. either TMI or legitimate townie.

BTW, not totally happy how silent the game went on lylo. Very easy for scum to coast under radar.

If tink or besie is town, this the time to show it.

Darn straight.

I think tink is just lolcatting right now

I am good with lynching tink and go with besie tomorrow.

You are right he is. we lynched besie and she was wolf. remember what you said.

I'm not ready to give up yet. If I was I'd self-vote so that - unless both Dya and Monstrman are both scum, which I doubt - the last scum can swoop in and hammer.

Come on, town.

I don't get it. Why would you self vote even if you are ready to give up? If you are town, you would never, ever even suggest that

She wasn't town, she was wolf.

Sorry, it is a Sunday and kind of busy for me (family time). I am also off to sleep soon

It is what it is. If I am wrong, well played.

[v]besie[/v]

very good vote.

So in conclusion: I really think pral is town. If he is wolf then he deserves the win. I just won't trust him....ugh another darthe... *sigh* I have to let things go. However that is neither here nor there. I really think that TIINK is the DEEPWOLF and that we need to [v] tiink [/v] . It is daytime right?? Oh well. I have laid everything out for you. Any questions??

Tiinker · October 10, 2016

No questions on my end. Goodbye Wifi.

Wildfire Sedai · October 10, 2016

GOODBYE

dyachei · October 10, 2016

Waiting to hear from pralaya.

But I have some thoughts I'd like to wait to share

Nynaeve · October 10, 2016

Official Vote Count

Wifi (1): Tiinker

Tiinker (1): Wifi

Not voting (2): Pral, dyachei

With 4 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline:

Pralaya · October 11, 2016

The thing about wifi's case is that she is trying to paint and cherry pick things as scummy.

For example,wherever tink or me calls sooh/besie as scum - it is because tink/me likes to bus.

Wherever we are having sooh/besie as townish (especially in D1, where the reads are all around the place) - tink/pral must be scum because he is calling a scum townie.

I find this a bit unnatural in its aspect

Pralaya · October 11, 2016

To be frank, even I kind of tinfoiled on tink yesterday after his wifi vote and hence did not want to vote right on the fly. I wanted to read up his interactions yesterday with Besie.

In the beginning of previous day, I thought they could be w/w because Besie was completely absent and tink was all around the place with his posts. He did not have specific answers to what I was asking him. But, during the latter part of the day, tink had better responses when he was talking to dya and Besie was quite active.

Looking at the Tink/Besie interaction, both of them were focusing only on each other and not trying to push the suspicion on others. If it is was distancing, it was weak and unsustainable.

And I don't think that helps me at all. Time wasted.

I don't know what to do. I'm not going to bother with figuring out whether there is or isn't, and who, the deepwolf is until D5.

I can try and figure out who the wolf is between Wildfire and Tiink but I don't know.

I've had Tiink as scummy for a long time - and you can see it in my votes. But the fact that Sooh did the same thing to him as to me means that he's probably town too.

Hellian got a free pass D1 because we wanted him to be active. D2 we gave to Wildfire to catch up, and she voted where everyone was going towards. D3 she voted where it looked like everyone was going, but changed her mind, and changed it back again.

Please can I have some opinions on this? Please.

This imo is the definition of reaching now. You have flip flopped way too much to get to this read.

Especially when Besie was active, she started town reading tink. She was presumably playing safe and wanted to get some townie points. If they were actually distancing, they would have continued their focus on each other once Besie became active. She doesn't even try to shift the focus once she started "townreading" tink.

Tink/Besie are most definitely w/v here.

Pralaya · October 11, 2016

D1 lynch discussion that wifi presented has already been argued and discussed numerous times through the game. In fact, I was talking of the same things with tink yesterday.

D2 lynch is something that unusual because most of the end votes came very late and very close to deadline. Quite likely that wolves would shift given the circumstances.

D3 lynch analysis is a lottery. I mean, who wouldn't vote someone caught in a lie? Could be either town or scum.

Pralaya · October 11, 2016

[v]wifi[/v]

Nynaeve · October 11, 2016

Official Vote Count

Wifi (2): Tiinker. Pral

Tiinker (1): Wifi

Not voting (1): dyachei

With 4 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline:

dyachei · October 11, 2016

Ok well. I got the same impression.

Note that in wifi's vote count posts she skims over the areas where it looks really good for tiink - where he tied it up with his lynch for a wolf. Most wolf-bros don't do that.

I also noticed that she seemed to be more swayed by who she thought she could get killed.

[v]wifi[/v]

let's end this.

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