[Basic]Spirited Away Mafia - Game over mafia wins

[BFG]

Hi Cory <3

[Clovdyx]

I think BFG/Seph/WiFi contains at least 2 wolves.

 

And I don't think Kat is a wolf with Seph so if Seph's a wolf and Wifi does turn out to be a villager I have this terrible feeling #3 could be potentially be Hallia.

 

I hope I am proven wrong.

 

I'm mostly inclined to agree with this.  If that list of three doesn't solve it, I probably go after Kat next.  If THAT doesn't solve it, but the game's going on, I either

 

-kill you/Darthe if BFG flipped town.

-definitely kill Darthe over you if BFG flips mafia.

 

 

If Hallia or AJ are just deepwolfing the hell out of me, I commend them on their strong games and take the loss and move on.  If Sili is deepwolfing me, I get drunk and remember why I hate certain types of people.

[Cory Caboose]

You caught up?

If you aren't you might want to skip the me/Darthe stuff, nothing relevant happens there and it's not good and goes on for ~6 pages or so

 

The thread recovers afterwards

[BFG]

I did indeed do something like that once, and what happened changed my game permanently from then on

 

Would I do again with her, driving it myself? Absolutely never

 

Sorry if you feel otherwise because that just isn't me

 

There's also the fact that have you been reading my posts? 

This is part of it :/

[Sili Quirrels]

Alright I'm back and recharged. We have 100 pages to go through. We've still got AJ and Regy and Clov and we have time to flip this around and make it right.

 

The question I want to answer: is there ANY possibility that Sili is a wolf? I want to figure that out first

But I'm town for a 'bazillion reasons'.

[Clovdyx]

You caught up?

 

If you aren't you might want to skip the me/Darthe stuff, nothing relevant happens there and it's not good and goes on for ~6 pages or so

 

The thread recovers afterwards

 

If I end up failing at everything else this game, at least I did that right.

[BFG]

You caught up?

 

If you aren't you might want to skip the me/Darthe stuff, nothing relevant happens there and it's not good and goes on for ~6 pages or so

 

The thread recovers afterwards

Me? Reading through

[Cory Caboose]

Sili there's a difference between a solid townread and being 100% sure on someone.

 

You're sort of cuckoo bananas, so I need to eliminate any idea you could choose to play the way you've played as a wolf. That's a lot of work. You are not an easy clear in a hard game.

[BFG]

 

You caught up?

 

If you aren't you might want to skip the me/Darthe stuff, nothing relevant happens there and it's not good and goes on for ~6 pages or so

 

The thread recovers afterwards

 

If I end up failing at everything else this game, at least I did that right.

 

Much appreciated

[Clovdyx]

Here for half an hour

 

Hi you.

 

I'm keeping the finger.

[BFG]

 

Here for half an hour

 

Hi you.

 

I'm keeping the finger.

 

Happy to hear that :)

[Cory Caboose]

This is part of it :/

 

I'm sorry that I felt I needed to point that out because it's something I would've kept to myself in a less crazy game

 

Sorry if the game has caused you any anxiety.

[Sili Quirrels]

TBH I am much less concerned about finding a wolf and much more concerned about finding a villager in

 

Hallia

Sili

BFG

WiFi

Seph

Kat

 

Just need one. Feel like Sili and Hallia are the "picks" but not confident enough in either to really go there. Closer to Sili than Hallia to be perfectly honest

can you elaborate on why you dropped me 7 or so players?

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Here for half an hour

 

Hi you.

 

I'm keeping the finger.

 

Happy to hear that :)

 

 

I got this for you.

 

 

 

Cutting out parts that aren't related to you.  <3

 

 

 

How does this come down to me 'trying to outplay you'?

 

 

Because I assume - and perhaps wrongfully - that you haven't basically roadmapped your entire thought process on how to formulate reads against Cory/other strong, similarly metaed players to the majority of people.  That means people aren't necessarily going to read your take and recognize that's EXACTLY how you think.

 

Contrast that to me, who you've had the conversation with on more than one occasion.  I'm not going to pretend to be so inside your head that I know what's a genuine thought or not, but I'd like to think I have a pretty good idea how you approach things...and I think you would agree to that.

 

When I read the post, it just seemed completely honest because it's basically what you've told me.  Not a word for word copy, but at least a very nice paraphrase.  One that might not sway others to townreading you, but it would do one hell of a number on me.  And that's really only significant if you were concerned with how I, specifically, read you - and getting me to townread you.

 

 

 

 

BFG can you give any kind of opinion on Clov? Just based on one read I know, but I want to know what you think.

Chris owned me pretty badly the last game we played, so I'm back to null reading him till eternity.

 

Gun to head town. Last couple of games he's been mafia he's been more assertive (not sure that's the word I'm looking for) with his vote and when I looked back, I didn't believe his pushes regardless of the fact I quickly dropped the read. Was hoping I could read him through similar methods this game, and I don't know what to make of the fact that he hasn't pushed anyone yet, but I think it's more likely from town him since he wouldn't need to try to control the lynch.

 

 

....Did I play a different 90's Music than other people?  Because for somebody who didn't "believe my pushes", I'm pretty sure she was on Lenlo most of D1 with me and I know she was pushing Dice with me on D2.  

 

I also find it really, really unlikely she thinks it's more likely I haven't pushed anyone as town than mafia, given that I'm pretty sure one of her big reasons for suspecting me when following along in Mafia Karts was the disconnect between say and do (e.g., my arguments looked okay, but did they go anywhere?)

 

If this was the only post I've seen from her this game, I would kill her on the spot.  Had I been around, it might have actually made me vote her, ironically.

 

[BFG]

Ok, regarding the 'didn't believe it' thing

 

Page 30 is interesting in as much as I 'understand' and mostly 'agree' with everything Chris says, I just don't know if I believe it

 

It's all small stuff, but Lenlo points out and disagrees with early reads every game, the bigger point that Lenlo didn't really say anything in his catch up post is true, but :pulls face:

 

I need the bigger picture to read Chris though

I know I agreed with you about Lenlo very soon afterwards, which is what I meant by regardless of how quickly I dropped it, but when I was looking back it was one of the few things I felt bad about you early on (and in fact pretty much until the night I died), even if I couldn't/didn't quantify it. It's not too dissimilar to how I felt about what I saw of your your Celeste push in Mario Karts.

 

I also know you push people as town, I've played with you before do I think you're less likely to need to control the lynch as town than mafia, yes - how well this bears up I don't know

[Clovdyx]

 

TBH I am much less concerned about finding a wolf and much more concerned about finding a villager in

 

Hallia

Sili

BFG

WiFi

Seph

Kat

 

Just need one. Feel like Sili and Hallia are the "picks" but not confident enough in either to really go there. Closer to Sili than Hallia to be perfectly honest

can you elaborate on why you dropped me 7 or so players?

 

 

Oh, that reminds me!

 

Cory - Why does Darthe have to be a townie this game?

[Cory Caboose]

Well you were never above Regy or SiRReN

 

AJ is someone I read well and I'm hilariously confident he's a villager

Clov, I just feel like I know

 

Darthe and I had the "Darthening" and I don't think that ever happens if Darthe is a wolf

 

I am basically 100% sure on all of these now.

 

But not on you.

[Sili Quirrels]

Sili there's a difference between a solid townread and being 100% sure on someone.

 

You're sort of cuckoo bananas, so I need to eliminate any idea you could choose to play the way you've played as a wolf. That's a lot of work. You are not an easy clear in a hard game.

...

 

cuckoo bananas for thinking you doing wolfy things makes you suspicious. hm.

 

 

no. i'm voting you tomorrow and nightfalling. i'm done with this.

[Clovdyx]

Ok, regarding the 'didn't believe it' thing

 

Page 30 is interesting in as much as I 'understand' and mostly 'agree' with everything Chris says, I just don't know if I believe it

 

It's all small stuff, but Lenlo points out and disagrees with early reads every game, the bigger point that Lenlo didn't really say anything in his catch up post is true, but :pulls face:

 

I need the bigger picture to read Chris though

I know I agreed with you about Lenlo very soon afterwards, which is what I meant by regardless of how quickly I dropped it, but when I was looking back it was one of the few things I felt bad about you early on (and in fact pretty much until the night I died), even if I couldn't/didn't quantify it. It's not too dissimilar to how I felt about what I saw of your your Celeste push in Mario Karts.

 

I also know you push people as town, I've played with you before do I think you're less likely to need to control the lynch as town than mafia, yes - how well this bears up I don't know

 

 

Why does this conflict basically everything you've ever said about me?

[Cory Caboose]

Cory - Why does Darthe have to be a townie this game?

 

I just don't think he's capable of going that far as a wolf. It's so much his villager game and his wolf game is more compliant and he doesn't get that razor sharp edge that sometimes comes out when he's a displeased villager.

 

I am not always great at identifying his wolf game but I can tell when he's a villager very reliably.

[Cory Caboose]

no. i'm voting you tomorrow and nightfalling. i'm done with this.

 

you are going to feel very alone.

[Sili Quirrels]

Well you were never above Regy or SiRReN

 

AJ is someone I read well and I'm hilariously confident he's a villager

 

Clov, I just feel like I know

 

Darthe and I had the "Darthening" and I don't think that ever happens if Darthe is a wolf

 

I am basically 100% sure on all of these now.

 

But not on you.

 

  right.

 

so i get the masons.

 

sort of get darthe.

 

clov and aj not so much, but whatever.

 

but i'm nightfalling anyways. i don't have the energy to fight through all your nonsense tomorrow. nightfalling makes everything simpler for me.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

no. i'm voting you tomorrow and nightfalling. i'm done with this.

 

you are going to feel very alone.

 

alone until we lose perhaps. all the same.

[BFG]

Because we've recently had conversations about 'what' constitutes you being the 'best' as either alignment. Am I wrong?

[Cory Caboose]

Me during this Chris/BFG conversation:
 

 

 

Vos would be so mad