[Basic]Spirited Away Mafia - Game over mafia wins

[Cory Caboose]

[v]cory[/v]

 

[Cory Caboose]

Damnit Sili 

[Sili Quirrels]

i was previously self voting so i had to unvote first, but then i thought - i don't want to vote cory until i've finished rereading and can summarize my thoughts on him.

[SiRReN]

There is no big case, because I'm crap at but long WoT, so if that's what you want, i can't help you

No no, I don't need WoT :) I just want to figure out where everyone's heads are at, especially those who aren't the big posters.

[Sili Quirrels]

And already the accusations flow............ hmmmmmm 

similar to laine, i don't like this.

[SiRReN]

Gm gm.

 

@Sirren - just to clarify are you not voting Cory because you're town reading him or uncomfortable with the situation?

 

@Darthe - can you clarify what you meant with your read on me?

I'm definitely uncomfortable and its making me want to just shelve concerns I have for Cory until next Day Phase. I think his emotions are all over the place and he seems genuine, but he's also done some things I don't agree with and don't usually associate with him. There are a lot of people comments on his outbursts, and its possible everyone doing so is town, because considering how genuine he feels, I couldn't see his scummates bussing him in such a way. So he's either scum and everyone pointing out his frustration is town, or he's town and we're all town, or he's town and some scum don't mind prodding him like that. So I want to look elsewhere right now.

[Cory Caboose]

Villagers probably:

 

Sili Quirrels

Regy Rusty

 

SiRReN

Hallia

Andrej

 

Seph

 

Problem spots:

 

Zalanna

Katiora

Clovdyx

 

BFG

Wildfire Sedai

Darthe

 

 

[Katiora]

Ok someone please tel lme exactly what they don't like about my posts? honestly I'm tired of everyone bashing them like they are doing so much better than me. Right now we have no idea who to lynch. Some are saying Cory, some are saying Darthe, one likes me. But no one can give any reasons why... I mean Lainey's thing for me is " Kat is a good option even though my other head disagrees. She's had very few posts I actually like "

 

That's not a good reason to put someone out there for me. She doesn't like a lot of my posts because a lot of what I've said hasn't exactly lined up with what she said, but that's not my problem. Just because I think differently than her doesn't mean that I'm wrong or that she's right. I'm pretty sure she sussed me the last game we played in nearly the entire game even though EVERYONE ELSE pretty much said I was town. That would have been the 90s Music Game. 

 

Let me explain to ya'll how I play mafia, so it'll take a little confusion away from my posts. I normally don't post a lot. I don't ask a lot of questions. I don't attack people. I do respond to questions most of the time if I see them, but I'm very rarely on at night and on weekends. Usually at night I try to keep read up but I rarely actually comment unless there is something I REALLY need to say because I honestly don't have time, I hate responding to DM on my phone, and I have no internets at my house. I'm a quiet player most of the time. When I do post it's normally mega posts that are extremely wordy that I'm pretty sure are a waste of time because no one reads them, but I continue to do it because it helps me to actually type my thoughts out and then read them. I can be thinking something really hard and I type it  out... post it... then re-read and think... now that's not really happening. And I also do get a few comments usually on at least bits and pieces of stuff. If you go back and look at my games my post count is low, so me not posting is null. Also, me not offering a lot of content D1 is null. I don't do good D1. I hate d1. I have said that in almost every game I've played. D1 is full of pointless accusations based on the barest of reasonings with often no more than a "that's just the way I feel" to back it up. 

 

 

Now saying that. *sighs* 

 

I still stand by my reads list with just a few changes, but now I'll give a bit more thoughts on why.... once I find it. 

 

Zander/Laine - still feel the best about them. Though only because Zander. I think Lainey just refuses to believe she can't read me. 

AJ -still feel good about. I find that he's much more obnoxious and "leaderish" as mafia. He is constantly trying to steer things his way. In this game he's involved and giving thoughts, but not trying to badger people. I think this is good. 

Hallia - Fairly active in the thread, giving thoughts, getting annoyed at people. All things I associate with Towny Hallia. 

 

Sili - has trended up to me. Activity is good. definitely within his town range for me. Don't feel good enough to call him "town" but I don't think I would lynch him today unless he really did something to change my mind

These are the people I'm having a hard time getting a read on

BFG - still hasn't had a LOT of presence in the thread. Always "going" to do something" but I haven't seen her get around to it yet. Makes me doubt her towniness

Sirren - I'm really leaning more towards town but this is the second game I've played with you and I have no idea what to think of your play style yet. I think you were slightly quieter last game? so maybe this is a good look. Probably wouldn't lynch her today either. 

Clov - I always have a bad feeling about clov. He's such a good wolf lol. I started believing him the last game we played together in and he was wolf so I'm just not comfortable with him. He's really good at knowing what questions to ask and when, and then looking righteously angry when we mislynch so idk... hard for me to move him up lol

Cory - ehhh. Part of me wants to believe him, and part of me thinks that his AtE is a little over the top. If it hadn't been for that he'd be up there in black with Sili probably. I did see a couple times yesterday where he was trying to diffuse situations (not including him) which to me is a towny thing, but he also stirred up a good bit of stuff which is pretty null... So I'm really not sure. 

 

Reg - some people are kinda clearing you.. I'm not really sure what to do with you. I was thinking you were kinda scummy based on gut reads but I hate basing a vote after that... I'll feel better about reading you in D2 I think... 

 

Darthe- probably my least favorite. Just hasn't done anything. Came in yesterday after like not posting... Voted zander for reading Cory as scum. Then later yesterday Voted Cory for voting BFG as scum. *headdesk* I jsut don't see a whole lot there. I'm reading his ISO and there's a good many posts, but mostly it's nothing game solving and going back and forth with one person or another. First it was Zander, then it was Cory... And there is SOME content to them... but it's so hard to pick up on them with the back and forth and barely veiled insults at anyone that either votes him or disagrees with his reasoning. Though that could just be Darthe being Darthe... 

 

not even able to put anywhere: PBF/WIFI

 

 

UGh someone tell me what to do *headdesk* Watch me be wrong and Zander/AJ/Hallia be the scum team lol 

[Cory Caboose]

 

Gm gm.

 

@Sirren - just to clarify are you not voting Cory because you're town reading him or uncomfortable with the situation?

 

@Darthe - can you clarify what you meant with your read on me?

I'm definitely uncomfortable and its making me want to just shelve concerns I have for Cory until next Day Phase. I think his emotions are all over the place and he seems genuine, but he's also done some things I don't agree with and don't usually associate with him. There are a lot of people comments on his outbursts, and its possible everyone doing so is town, because considering how genuine he feels, I couldn't see his scummates bussing him in such a way. So he's either scum and everyone pointing out his frustration is town, or he's town and we're all town, or he's town and some scum don't mind prodding him like that. So I want to look elsewhere right now.

 

 

Again, I have felt under attack all game.

 

It's far easier to be calm, rational and react to severe impetus with rationality when you're not under fire. Regardless of whatever else I am, I am human.

 

Nothing that has happened has stopped me from bashing my brain in trying to figure out this game. If anyone doesn't understand that now, they never will understand me.

[SiRReN]

I'm going to do this

 

[v]Kat[/v]

 

I haven't seen anything from her yet this game that makes her stand out or that makes me thing she's defo town. 

[SiRReN]

Christ, ninja'd by Kat of all people making a big post. I'm gonna read it and see if I change my mind.

[Katiora]

btw when Laine said I admitted to lurking in my first post... that wasn't true... I wasn't lurking.. I stated in my first post I had been waiting in the thread, that was for Sooh to open it so I could post. Then I had to work at work (go figure) and I came back and there were 4 pages. That was what got me heated with Lainey... everything about my first post she misread and turned into something slightly scummy and then every post I posted to her was scummy.... I'm still slightly annoyed at it actually... I meant to put that in my other post and forgot... 

[SiRReN]

I've got a question for Zander and Cory. I feel like I've been obvious enough because you two have caught what I was throwing - how likely is it for other players to miss that?

[SiRReN]

[unvote] for now.

[Katiora]

Ugh ISO's have become a pain here.... But after re-reading and analyzing I may need to adjust my reads list... and I worked so hard on it *sighs* 

[Cory Caboose]

how likely is it for other players to miss that?

 

I wouldn't be surprised. But the only thing that really matters irt that is if a wolf has noticed - and I'd wager heavily they have.

[Cory Caboose]

@Kat who do you want to vote the most today? Ignore what is or isn't a feasible wagon, just want to know your #1 preference so far. Doesn't have to be confident.

[Andrej]

@Cory - I believe that you'd genuinely feel bad about that stuff regardless of your alignment, but that doesn't really change the fact. I disagree that you've been under serious pressure until maybe yesterday afternoon/last night with Zander and Darthe. And yes, I do think you changed gears yesterday at some point from the first day, which makes me want to think positively but then I can't really ignore the other issues that I don't think fall into your town game. Overall big picture kind of perspective sort of thing.

 

Even now reading your posts I feel bad because they feel real but it's like that saying where you can't negate minus signs because of some pluses.

[Andrej]

I've got a question for Zander and Cory. I feel like I've been obvious enough because you two have caught what I was throwing - how likely is it for other players to miss that?

Not likely imo.

[Cory Caboose]

It's different for me AJ because I'm expected to be a leader.

When I started up I did my usual "try to observe what people do of their own volition" thing that has made me a much better villager in the last 1 - 1 1/2 years and because I didn't feel like I could really involve myself due to some stuff that's been going on irl. People didn't like that so I tried to adjust before I was ready.

 

Besides the SiRReN thing (again, not game relevant, so judge it as you will) I was fine yesterday until basically Darthe, which was more indignation and mockery than fury. I still could not really get a lot of people working with me so I've felt increasingly isolated. I'm at my best as a player when I have a strong team behind me that supports me and I'm at my worst when I'm fighting an uphill battle, which I have this entire game.

Yet I am still here and have not relented in fighting once. If I get mislynched, it is 100% not on me.

[Cory Caboose]

My town range is immensely large because it's heavily dictated by my mood.

 

My wolf range is more narrow, more at me operating at 80% and keeping me and my wolfteam safe.

 

Do you think my general range has been large or small this game?

Would you say I'm operating at 100% in terms of my involvement, interest and attachment to the game or lower?

[Cory Caboose]

Because that's how you read me.

 

Most of the time it goes smoothly, and every now and then I end up with skinned knees and a gap in my teeth but I press on.

 

This has been a weirdly new experience but I'm back here for the beatings every time one comes up and I press on.

[Regy Rusty]

Alright I guess we might as well just lift the veil in case there are any townies who haven't picked up on it at this point:

 

Sirren and I are the masons and have known each other are town from the moment the game started.

 

I didn't really have a plan for the way I handled this but I figured I'd have some fun with it and see if anything interesting happened. We talked in private and couldn't think of any strong mechanical reason not to be obvious with it and definitely didn't want to risk one of us dying night 1 without providing a firm clear for the other. I couldn't see any way to catch mafia by keeping it a secret barring the incredibly unlikely scenario of mafia attempting a fake claim.

 

Worst things I can think of happening is it removes two possible suspects for the doctor and paints targets on our heads but eh. It might even be useful to provide a couple really obvious targets for both sides.

 

If there was a stronger mechanical strategy for this role I couldn't think of it so apologies

[Cory Caboose]

I would imagine most of us knew and just didn't want to discuss it openly

[Regy Rusty]

I know, that was my intention