[Basic]Spirited Away Mafia - Game over mafia wins

[Cory Caboose]

The power of COMPARATIVE ISO might help me IRT: Kat because she was scum in a recent game IIRC?

 

Has made my to do list for when I get home

[Clovdyx]

I didn't say I was reading anyone FIRMLY as town. I JUST SAID I don't do that d1. I don't know how ANYONE can read someone FIRMLY as town D1. unless they know who's mafia already. Then you can make some pretty good educated guesses. 

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

FWIW I felt her confusion was genuine, but I don't think that's a strong reason to make a read so I'm not going to go gung-ho about it

But I've definitely seen her need some time to digest a game before as a villager

[Cory Caboose]

Getting WalterFootball flashbacks Chris? 

[Clovdyx]

Getting WalterFootball flashbacks Chris? 

 

No.  She said "D1", not "ever".

[SiRReN]

 

Yeah that's what I was guessing :P

 

It's fine, d1s are the hardest to "get right" and it takes a lot of false machismo and risk-takng to make reads with confidence early. Take your time Kat, there's 24+ hours left in the day phase :P

If I ever say anything with confidence d1 I'm scum and lynch me... 

 

 

 

I don't know what to think about Kat's recent post but I don't like it. Everyone is either null or scummy to her.

Welcome to my day 1... I don't like it either... i have a hard time vetting anyone town d1. but i did give 3 town leans so I'm not exactly sure how you say that?? that's 1/4 of the players... 

 

Who are you reading firmly as town? Because you go back on yourself and say things like "I'm not sure though".

 

 

I didn't say I was reading anyone FIRMLY as town. I JUST SAID I don't do that d1. I don't know how ANYONE can read someone FIRMLY as town D1. unless they know who's mafia already. Then you can make some pretty good educated guesses. 

 

FWIW after her more recent posts I feel Kat is trending away from null and into scum territory.

And could that be because I'm questioning you and think that you may be scum?? Or is it because of something scummy I'm doing (because if I am, PLEASE point it out)? Ya'll wanted me to talk more and now that I do I'm scum... Very original... And when I quit posting because I'm at work and I get busy you'll say I stopped posting because i'm scum... 

 

Fine, so you aren't reading anyone firmly town. But don't play coy word games with me, you claim you've given 3 town leans but I don't see them, so who are they?

[Katiora]

No need to be so testy about it Kat

 

I just think your reads post wasn't great and could be fake/intended to further the mafia cause and keep you in the game

I'm pretty sure I posted on my reads list that I didn't love it... it was just my first thoughts. And this isn't me being testy... this is me being slightly annoyed(mostly at work I will admit.. I'm probably going to go walk around without my work phone so I can chill for a few minutes before I bite off a doctor's head and get fired lol) But I don't like someone nitpicking my posts and scouring them for 1 thing, taken out of context, and trying to make me look bad for it. It's quite annoying. And stuff that Sirren is saying isn't really true... it's PARTIALLY true.. but the jist of it isn't quite right. And it's annoying me more than your posts probably are... but every time I try to say something about it Clov agrees with Sirren... 

[Cory Caboose]

Had to bite my lip to stop from laughing in the office and it might be bleeding

 

Jerk

[Katiora]

 

 

Yeah that's what I was guessing :P

 

It's fine, d1s are the hardest to "get right" and it takes a lot of false machismo and risk-takng to make reads with confidence early. Take your time Kat, there's 24+ hours left in the day phase :P

If I ever say anything with confidence d1 I'm scum and lynch me... 

 

 

 

I don't know what to think about Kat's recent post but I don't like it. Everyone is either null or scummy to her.

Welcome to my day 1... I don't like it either... i have a hard time vetting anyone town d1. but i did give 3 town leans so I'm not exactly sure how you say that?? that's 1/4 of the players... 

 

Who are you reading firmly as town? Because you go back on yourself and say things like "I'm not sure though".

 

 

I didn't say I was reading anyone FIRMLY as town. I JUST SAID I don't do that d1. I don't know how ANYONE can read someone FIRMLY as town D1. unless they know who's mafia already. Then you can make some pretty good educated guesses. 

 

FWIW after her more recent posts I feel Kat is trending away from null and into scum territory.

And could that be because I'm questioning you and think that you may be scum?? Or is it because of something scummy I'm doing (because if I am, PLEASE point it out)? Ya'll wanted me to talk more and now that I do I'm scum... Very original... And when I quit posting because I'm at work and I get busy you'll say I stopped posting because i'm scum... 

 

Fine, so you aren't reading anyone firmly town. But don't play coy word games with me, you claim you've given 3 town leans but I don't see them, so who are they?

 

town leans are Zander, Hallia, AJ LEANS purely. They are more town than null. 

 

then I have a big null pile. BFG and Darthe were at the very bottom because I don't have a place to put them because they're not even null. PFB should be there too.. honestly I forgot about her. And you would be the one playing word games. changing what i'm saying JUST a little... 

[SiRReN]

 

No need to be so testy about it Kat

 

I just think your reads post wasn't great and could be fake/intended to further the mafia cause and keep you in the game

I'm pretty sure I posted on my reads list that I didn't love it... it was just my first thoughts. And this isn't me being testy... this is me being slightly annoyed(mostly at work I will admit.. I'm probably going to go walk around without my work phone so I can chill for a few minutes before I bite off a doctor's head and get fired lol) But I don't like someone nitpicking my posts and scouring them for 1 thing, taken out of context, and trying to make me look bad for it. It's quite annoying. And stuff that Sirren is saying isn't really true... it's PARTIALLY true.. but the jist of it isn't quite right. And it's annoying me more than your posts probably are... but every time I try to say something about it Clov agrees with Sirren... 

 

What did I say that isn't true? And Clov has agreed with me once, so I guess you're right about saying "every time" because 1 out of 1 times he agreed with me, but you're making a bigger thing out of it than I am

[Cory Caboose]

Kat/SiRReN I think you guys are miscommunicating so why not step back a back and re-approach this later when we have more to go on

 

I don't think either of you are going to make progress IRT to reading eachother at this point

[Clovdyx]

 

No need to be so testy about it Kat

 

I just think your reads post wasn't great and could be fake/intended to further the mafia cause and keep you in the game

I'm pretty sure I posted on my reads list that I didn't love it... it was just my first thoughts. And this isn't me being testy... this is me being slightly annoyed(mostly at work I will admit.. I'm probably going to go walk around without my work phone so I can chill for a few minutes before I bite off a doctor's head and get fired lol) But I don't like someone nitpicking my posts and scouring them for 1 thing, taken out of context, and trying to make me look bad for it. It's quite annoying. And stuff that Sirren is saying isn't really true... it's PARTIALLY true.. but the jist of it isn't quite right. And it's annoying me more than your posts probably are... but every time I try to say something about it Clov agrees with Sirren... 

 

 

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I've made one post agreeing with her, and I don't understand why my opinion of her alignment or her posts would stop you from putting your thoughts in the thread.  If you need time, whatever...that happens.  Nobody is asking you to lock the game today, but I was similarly unimpressed with your reads list and I'm not going to hide that.  If you think Sirren's portrayal of you is unfair, put it out there.

 

Or don't.  But don't act like I have something to do with it.

[seph]

I actually like kats recent posts though

[Cory Caboose]

Clov can agree with SiRReN about a point she made IRT: Kat and Kat can still be a villager

 

Mafia is not a zero-sum world when it comes to who you think is thinking honestly

[SiRReN]

@Kat I agree that the word firmly was me - you never said you've got anyone firmly town. 

 

I have another question now, when you say that Darthe is a gut read, what are you reading him? Because you wrote that he is non-existent, so I don't see how that translates to a gut read unless you meant to type someone else's name.

[SiRReN]

For the record to everyone, I can be a very aggressive town player. I don't needlessly tunnel, I pursue a point of interest until I am satisfied. Kat has almost satisfied me, so before you all tell either of us to take a step back (I personally feel we've been nothing but civil to each other) just let her answer and let me get to the bottom of my unease.

[Clovdyx]

Clov can agree with SiRReN about a point she made IRT: Kat and Kat can still be a villager

 

Mafia is not a zero-sum world when it comes to who you think is thinking honestly

 

Seems unlikely.  

 

On a more serious note, if Kat and Sirren are both villagers, mafia is either going to sweep or have the worst game ever.  I'm basically out of names for 'uncleared' villagers in my POE after the two of them.  And while I'd love to say I figured everything out D1, that's pretty damn unlikely.

[Clovdyx]

/inb4Cory/Hallia/SephorRegyscumteam

[SiRReN]

I was thinking Cory/Hallia/Sili lmao

[Katiora]

@Kat I agree that the word firmly was me - you never said you've got anyone firmly town. 

 

I have another question now, when you say that Darthe is a gut read, what are you reading him? Because you wrote that he is non-existent, so I don't see how that translates to a gut read unless you meant to type someone else's name.

I'm reading him based on his inactivity... it's not very darthelike... therefore my gut

[SiRReN]

 

@Kat I agree that the word firmly was me - you never said you've got anyone firmly town. 

 

I have another question now, when you say that Darthe is a gut read, what are you reading him? Because you wrote that he is non-existent, so I don't see how that translates to a gut read unless you meant to type someone else's name.

I'm reading him based on his inactivity... it's not very darthelike... therefore my gut

 

And so you are reading him as scum?

[Katiora]

 

Clov can agree with SiRReN about a point she made IRT: Kat and Kat can still be a villager

 

Mafia is not a zero-sum world when it comes to who you think is thinking honestly

 

Seems unlikely.  

 

On a more serious note, if Kat and Sirren are both villagers, mafia is either going to sweep or have the worst game ever.  I'm basically out of names for 'uncleared' villagers in my POE after the two of them.  And while I'd love to say I figured everything out D1, that's pretty damn unlikely.

 

I don't see how that's true. I don't inherently think that Sirren is Mafia. Thoughts lately  have led me to think she could honestly be trying to figure things out. I'm not an unreasonable person and I don't normally let one argument in a game skew my thoughts of a person completely. Unless that person is Lenlo... but he's not here so we're all good 

[Katiora]

 

 

@Kat I agree that the word firmly was me - you never said you've got anyone firmly town. 

 

I have another question now, when you say that Darthe is a gut read, what are you reading him? Because you wrote that he is non-existent, so I don't see how that translates to a gut read unless you meant to type someone else's name.

I'm reading him based on his inactivity... it's not very darthelike... therefore my gut

 

And so you are reading him as scum?

 

I'm reading him as more scum than everyone else but not scummy enough to vote for because i have absolutely nothing to back that up with 

[SiRReN]

Last question. You also had Cory as a gut read - what is your gut telling you he is? 

[Clovdyx]

I was thinking Cory/Hallia/Sili lmao