[Basic]Spirited Away Mafia - Game over mafia wins

[Sili Quirrels]

 

no offense taken as long as you concede that it's your fault.

I honestly don't think it's either of our fault... I think it's just differing personalities.. I try to be aware of it and not let it sway me but sometimes I can't help myself.. that is my fault lol

 

k. apology, after a fashion, acknowledged and accepted.

 

really i'm quite loveable. no one should find me annoying.

[Sili Quirrels]

i'm just poking fun at myself btw.

[Sili Quirrels]

if wifi's a wolf it wouldn't be so unbelievable that aj pushes wifi because back then wifi was always deaded day 4 or 5.

[Sili Quirrels]

if aj thought he'd get credit for wifi's flip (which maybe others would give) then I think he tries to lynch his partner.

 

it's a questionable gambit but I've seen it done a lot.

[Hallia]

I like you the person, Sili.  Sometimes your play makes me bonkers.

 

 

 

And I DIDN'T GET TIME TO REREAD THEM BECAUSE IT GOT HAMMERED.

 

To be fair I likely would have voted Zalanna.

 

Vote: Kat

 

I'm not moving today.

Of course not I'm your only viable option of staying alive. of course when I flip town there's a good chance you die anyway unless we're fighting each other for nothing and it REALLY is Wifi. 

 

Hallia, IF YOU ARE TOWN. I want you to listen to me. If you're a wolf I hope you die... lol (not for reals just in this game) I really am Town. Right now I feel you are the one, if you're town that I need to talk to. I feel good about Cory. I mean if he's wolf I'm going to give it to him. (and never ever in my life ever trust him again) 

 

Right now I'm doing my best to get a read on you. Looking back at stuff you look really scummy. But some of my stuff looks scummy as well.. we both can't be scum. I do think it's unusual how Wifi seems to just be sitting back waiting. Which makes me wonder if she's jsut gonna let us go at each other and let sili and Cory sort it out because we all seem to be semi clearing her. I really want you to be town, but I just got burned by AJ. I think it's very possible that two of the people that I put in my top two town slots at the beginning of the game are Scum :sad; Help me solve this. If you're town it's wifi. We can only have one mislynch if we're going to win this. And if we go at each other right now and IT IS WIFI there's a good chance she wins. Lets talk this out. 

 

(of course not for reals.  ILY ) 

I'll talk to you.  Because that's how we were able to get past it last time.  

 

Don't even tinfoil on Cory, there is literally no way it is him.  For one, I think he would have killed me by now because as wolf he will typically not push me out of love

 

And just look at his play.  I know in my heart that's not wolf Cory.

 

So we both think it's each other, with the outside chance of Wifi.

[Sooh]

Official vote count:

 

Katiora (1): Hallia

 

Not voting (4): Katiora, Wildfire Sedai, Sili, Cory

 

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. 

 

[Sili Quirrels]

do i really need to convince you two to vote wifi.

 

that's pretty lol all  considered.

[Sili Quirrels]

i think with all this wuplah we forgot how wolfy she was.

 

now, i'm all for considering everyone, but 'outside chance' of wifi? nah. i think wifi's more likely than that. let's consider all our options today free of bias.

[Katiora]

i think with all this wuplah we forgot how wolfy she was.

 

now, i'm all for considering everyone, but 'outside chance' of wifi? nah. i think wifi's more likely than that. let's consider all our options today free of bias.

I swear if you're wolf I hunt you down in RL and... shake your hand lmao

[Sili Quirrels]

I'd heavily guess Kat is a villager. The differences between her scum and town games are pretty distinct. She's more indirect and a lot more fluffy as mafia. Her posts here are sharp and that's something her wolf game tends to lack.

 

Obviously I'd VASTLY prefer more content from her, but I understand that's going to take time. I'm very willing to allot her that time.

 

can you elaborate on this now corbear?

[Sili Quirrels]

Cory my beef with you atm is that for someone I know is very aware of the effects of thread environment to the performance of the village I am consistently finding you in arguments/making comments that are making for a bad one. I know that you're the type to wear your emotions on your sleeve and I am taking that into consideration as well but right now I'm having a hard time getting over the hump.

 

Please assist.

 

Is your read on Zander changed?

 

More evidence that Corbear is not a wolf - though probably unnecessary at this point.

[Hallia]

It's like a tennis match in my head and the ball is bouncing between the two, Sili.

[Cory Caboose]

 

I'd heavily guess Kat is a villager. The differences between her scum and town games are pretty distinct. She's more indirect and a lot more fluffy as mafia. Her posts here are sharp and that's something her wolf game tends to lack.

 

Obviously I'd VASTLY prefer more content from her, but I understand that's going to take time. I'm very willing to allot her that time.

 

can you elaborate on this now corbear?

 

 

Was an early read on low content when I was trying to get into the game

Ignore it

[Sili Quirrels]

Darthe trending down from null for me. With Sili chilling a bit I'm gonna

 

[unvote]

[v] Derf [/v]

 

I think this post shows Hallia's progression.

[Cory Caboose]

I'm very obviously not a wolf so why even discuss it

Think of yesterday alone - the remaining wolves would have been me & AJ

I love Regy but Regy needed my confidence in order to actually lynch AJ. If I had told him no, we would have lynched Kat

I don't just lynch AJ as a wolf with him there when I could win basically effortlessly by lying Kat and then almost anyone at f5

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

I'd heavily guess Kat is a villager. The differences between her scum and town games are pretty distinct. She's more indirect and a lot more fluffy as mafia. Her posts here are sharp and that's something her wolf game tends to lack.

 

Obviously I'd VASTLY prefer more content from her, but I understand that's going to take time. I'm very willing to allot her that time.

 

can you elaborate on this now corbear?

 

 

Was an early read on low content when I was trying to get into the game

Ignore it

 

kay

[Sili Quirrels]

I'm very obviously not a wolf so why even discuss it

 

Think of yesterday alone - the remaining wolves would have been me & AJ

 

I love Regy but Regy needed my confidence in order to actually lynch AJ. If I had told him no, we would have lynched Kat

 

I don't just lynch AJ as a wolf with him there when I could win basically effortlessly by lying Kat and then almost anyone at f5

at the end of the game i always turn over all the rocks.

[Cory Caboose]

That should be enough to turn over the rock :P

[Sili Quirrels]

She's definitely different than the game that just ended.

 

I still don't think the reasoning behind the Sili vote was that good. That's my biggest hang up currently.

 

[Katiora]

Ok I am semi caught up.....I read up to page 53 and then since its close to EoD I read from where I posted on 70 to here. Going back to reread hopefully will be done before dl.

 

 

 

I'm only on page 60 now but felt I had to post before EoD. I am going to post a VERY LOOSE leans list, just as a starting point...in no particular order...well in order of appearance on OP....no substance cause I am running out of time...will elaborate later if I have enough time.

 

 

 

1. Sili Quirrels: town

2. Wildfire Sedai (PrincessBFlea): town

3. Zalanna: town

4. Andrej: town

5. Hallia: town

6. Katiora: town/mafia

7. Cory: town/mafia

8. Clovdyx : mafia

9. BFG: mafia

10. Darthe: town/mafia

11. Regy Rusty: town

12. Sirren: town

13. Seph: town

 

Her list... weird... 

 

Okay...now that I have more time, though I am still not fully read through (i've had a lot of interruptions today):

 

1. Sili Quirrels: town - he's not as aggressive as he was the last time we played together and he was mafia then.  Also he has been itt more than in the other game, answering questions and making statements.

2. Wildfire Sedai (PrincessBFlea): town - tis me, I know I'm town.

3. Zalanna: town - hasn't been posting crazy amounts in thread (z) , they both have been answering questions afaict from what i have read so far

4. Andrej: town - has been asking questions and answering them when asked

5. Hallia: town/mafia as I was going to give a reason for her being town, it occured to me that she might just be on the edge of being mafia....low post count and not that much investigating going on.

6. Katiora: town/mafia - Kat was mafia in the last 2 games I was in with her, only 2 games to be exact.  She has posted more here than she did then atp in game.  However she "always" seems to get into a "ruckus" with someone during the game play, coincidence??

7. Cory: town/mafia - town because he takes the time to quote things and give explanations, mafia because of all the "ruckus" that was happening around him.

8. Clovdyx : mafia - am going to wait till after supper to do this one cause I can't remember off the top of my head why.

9. BFG: mafia -  am going to wait till after supper to do this one cause I can't remember off the top of my head why.

10. Darthe: town/mafia - town because he is proactive in responding to posts about his alignment and asking/answering questions. Mafia because of low posts...when I was in HIS game he thanked me for being active but he's not active here...it just doesn't add up

11. Regy Rusty: town - asked/ answered questions in a good manner

12. Sirren: town - Kept her cool when she felt hurt and continued playing the game.  Asks good questions and answers them.

13. Seph: town/mafia - I know I originally had him as town but then been thinking on it and he hasn't posted that much so thinking might be mafia "Lurking?" Just a thought....other than that though town for questions/answers.

The two people she thought was scummy were the two she couldn't remember why..... lol almost like she just randomly chose two out of the group and said "hey let's go for them" and the reasons she gives for her towns are not great. 

 

Its my inexperience that caught me...I thought masons were town also...thats why the town claim in my post...

This whole conversation was weird but this post.... Could just be verbage though... 

 

 

Okay...now that I have more time, though I am still not fully read through (i've had a lot of interruptions today):

 

1. Sili Quirrels: town - he's not as aggressive as he was the last time we played together and he was mafia then.  Also he has been itt more than in the other game, answering questions and making statements.

2. Wildfire Sedai (PrincessBFlea): town - tis me, I know I'm town.

3. Zalanna: town - hasn't been posting crazy amounts in thread (z) , they both have been answering questions afaict from what i have read so far

4. Andrej: town - has been asking questions and answering them when asked

5. Hallia: town/mafia as I was going to give a reason for her being town, it occured to me that she might just be on the edge of being mafia....low post count and not that much investigating going on.  

6. Katiora: town/mafia - Kat was mafia in the last 2 games I was in with her, only 2 games to be exact.  She has posted more here than she did then atp in game.  However she "always" seems to get into a "ruckus" with someone during the game play, coincidence??

7. Cory: town/mafia - town because he takes the time to quote things and give explanations, mafia because of all the "ruckus" that was happening around him.

8. Clovdyx : mafia - am going to wait till after supper to do this one cause I can't remember off the top of my head why.

9. BFG: mafia -  am going to wait till after supper to do this one cause I can't remember off the top of my head why.

10. Darthe: town/mafia - town because he is proactive in responding to posts about his alignment and asking/answering questions. Mafia because of low posts...when I was in HIS game he thanked me for being active but he's not active here...it just doesn't add up

11. Regy Rusty: town - asked/ answered questions in a good manner

12. Sirren: town - Kept her cool when she felt hurt and continued playing the game.  Asks good questions and answers them.

13. Seph: town/mafia - I know I originally had him as town but then been thinking on it and he hasn't posted that much so thinking might be mafia "Lurking?" Just a thought....other than that though town for questions/answers.

 

RED: I apologize to Hallia. I read the thread in spurts and thought that she hadn't posted that much.  It wasn't until after she took offense and I did an ISO of her that I realized my mistake.  She has been one of hthe more numerous posters

 

GREEN:  Clov: I got him mixed up with someone else.  I don't feel the need to say who because it will bring up old hurts and I don't want to go there. new read: town for trying to keep the peace.

 

PURPLE:  BFG: I am going to continue thinking mafia.  It has been hard to do an ISO and keeping up with thread and yes I know it is way past supper time hallia... here I am just going on gut and what other players have said throughout the thread.  Yes I know it is lazy of me but I have had all sorts of interruptions irl wrt keeping up with the thread that I feel it is needed.  

 

Then here you see the reason she thought clov was scummy was that it wasn't him... lol weird 

 

to continue...it got cut off....

 

Oh and because I never got around to asking you, Kat, why do you think I am scummy? [see below after bolded part] 

 

 

 

 " BFG: I am going to continue thinking mafia.  It has been hard to do an ISO and keeping up with thread and yes I know it is way past supper time hallia...     here I am just going on gut and what other players have said throughout the thread.  Yes I know it is lazy of me but I have had all sorts of interruptions irl wrt keeping up with the thread that I feel it is needed.  " 

 

This sounds like a reason to vote someone when you're coming in and they have said to "bus me so you look better" in the QT honestly... I mean from what she had said when she posted her list she wasn't even that caught up so... BFG hadn't posted that much iirc when at where she had read to, so Null I could have seen but mafia... ehhhhh or am I misthinking this? 

 

You are misthinking this....for in your own words....

 

"Sometime wifi just has to go because RL it's hard to base a vote on that... I have to be honest about that. honestly she's really scummy to me right now but I hate lynching someone that came in so late in D1"

 

cause basically what I posted about BFG was the truth as I saw it...and that is still how I see it....

 

I wanna tell you sumtin...nobody in this game has ever told me do this so you (meaning me) can look better....I was betrayed by lenlo in the last game i played.  I don't trust very easily....though my list was mainly towns Its just hard for me to see the bad in people....or maybe I am playing the game the wrong way like someone suggested...idk all I know is I sometimes have gut feelings....like darthe.....I have a gut feeling that he is mafia....I don't know why I just do.....I know he is basically a confirmed townie for like everyone else but thats just me...anyway.....I know I am town and I am going to fight till the end to prove that...for what thats worth.

 

Kat = mafia - she is trying to pull me into a mafia position with little to null to go on...I know you all already think I am mafia...so here's my question to you....WHY?

 

DISCLAIMER:  I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE DISJOINTED...IT WAS BETTER PUT TOGETHER BEFORE THE SITE ATE IT....  

Now she thinks I'm suspicious for suspecting her. *sighs* Not sure what to think of this. what really gets me is the red. she knows ALL of us think she's mafia, but she choses me to be suspicious of... 

 

Awe why lynch me....I'm telling you its either bfg/seph/darthe or bfg/seph/kat probably the last three...sorry darthe I might have misjudged you...yet I might not....I had forgotten about kat...

 

 

 

AJ if you are a wolf somehow I am legitimately blown away

You and Clov keep saying this

 

Put it to bed bruv

 

just thought this was ironic not part of the ISO

 

AJ gave me townfeels like right from the start and never stopped

 

If he's a wolf he's good

Here's another one.... oh he irony lol 

 

I think Cory is the doctor.

I saw her do this last game... Makes me think more mafia than town, but it's hard to know for sure cause that's the only game where she's been mafia that I've seen her in. But the other two games she was town and I don't THINK she did this. Could be a tell?? could just be a bad idea on her part. 

 

So how much you wanna bet that I get nk tonight? I mean why wait for a lynch when you can just nk me

 

Ha hallia.....so that thing in your siggy was for this game? 

 

darthe: pms are still part of DM....if you can get verbal32 to agree to it sure I will tell you some non pg13 jokes

a little AtE? Why would anyone seriously want to NK her? she's on everyone's sus list.. just like me... they'd have never killed me. I'm too good of a target

 

 

damn....I was so sure......

 

I am vanilla town too....

 

I am telling you....you got some wolves in your confirmed townies.....and you can't even see it.....LOL  I am thinking maybe seph was right...

 

 

Aj was one of the only players who didn't give bfg a significant read d1 when she was super scummy.

 

He refused to vote her, and saved her life Basicly.

He tried tying bfg to me before she even flipped, he was one of the main ones to do this.

And his overall attitude this last day phase.

 

Sili hasn't been town at all but just has been coasting and talking about how town he is.

Day 2 he throws a vote and tried to give a reason when there wasn't any need. Town sili does what he wants when he wants. He wouldn't give a lame excuse like he did. He isn't exactly a transparent player like he said. Since page 14 he has simply coasted and I don't remember him pushing the game or game solving. Town sili would have no problem leading the charge. The only thing I remember was him going at cory for making a bad lynch, upsetting him, and then bringing it back up later.

 

I got t my re read of page 30 last night before I just left, and since people are assuming I'm 90% a wolf they are going to look at this objectively. Since I'm getting lynched I'm not going to read another 50 pages to get ignored and get lynched anyway. But I felt you at least deserved my thoughts from yesterday.

 

I already explained my thoughts on clov and wf is strictly a gut read but I feel confident about it.

 

I'm just ready to die already...

 

So sure of wolves in his townies but He has AJ as one of his wolves lol 

 

I think seph was right.....AJ and Sili : [v] sili [/v]

Then she switches and says he was right, but votes Sili, not AJ who seph had the better case on because with AJ it was voting habits, on Sili it was how he was READING  sili and it's hard to lynch someone like Sili on tone. 

 

 

 

 

I think the biggest question on Wifi is IF she is wolf, WHY does AJ go after her like he does? AJ really needs the mislynch, why her? Why not go ahead and lynch me, I was on the cusp. None of that makes sense unless maybe he was trying to get himself clear? 

 

Him doing it to help me makes no sense because he has NO problem WHATSOEVER bussing as mafia. Ya'll had mostly cleared him with just a shred of doubt probably don't vote him over Me Hallia or Wifi. Let me die. 2 mafia left still. Kill Reg/Sili/Cory, there's (probably) Cory Sili Hallia AJ left... not sure where that goes... *sighs* *bangs head against wall* 

[Sili Quirrels]

@Sili do I need to be worried by your lack of aggressiveness?

 

 

 

@Sili do I need to be worried by your lack of aggressiveness?

i put two people on ignore this game. it makes me a better person (less aggressive)

 

Was this our interaction cory?

[Cory Caboose]

That's the one

[Sili Quirrels]

I think the biggest question on Wifi is IF she is wolf, WHY does AJ go after her like he does? AJ really needs the mislynch, why her? Why not go ahead and lynch me, I was on the cusp. None of that makes sense unless maybe he was trying to get himself clear? 

 

Him doing it to help me makes no sense because he has NO problem WHATSOEVER bussing as mafia. Ya'll had mostly cleared him with just a shred of doubt probably don't vote him over Me Hallia or Wifi. Let me die. 2 mafia left still. Kill Reg/Sili/Cory, there's (probably) Cory Sili Hallia AJ left... not sure where that goes... *sighs* *bangs head against wall*

 

well, yes, we could say your lynch was inevitable back then.

[Sili Quirrels]

That's the one

I didn't know how to reply to bfg's question.

 

The question didn't make a lot of sense to me.

[Cory Caboose]

She tipped her hand by talking a lot about the processes she uses to read people without making a lot of actual reads with them imo