[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Sili Quirrels]

Gtg.

[BFG]

BFG - you mean like I did earlier, when I pointed out why I thought he might be 3P and got "ok" from you and a decent reply from Sili, and jack from anybody else?

 

Or did you mean the massive post I made three pages ago where I showed he was lying, and nobody - at all - replied. Pretty sure the only person to acknowledge Darthe lying through his teeth about my Lenlo read was Lenlo, himself.

 

Ok regarding Darthe, I'll hopefully get there in my read/reread

 

Now I will take another look at Lenlo when I get home, for the reason YOU asked me. I still think you're town, and I'm hoping I'm right so this can be 'that' game. But if you are, take a look at what I said about Lenlo today and tell me where you apparently thing Im wrong.

If I recall it's to do with his response to Dice?

 

I agree he sounds good in defence. I can't argue your logic about his vote shifts, BUT I don't remember him doing anything to push his suspects. The timing and belief in his votes doesn't look good to me.

[Lenlo]

Lenlo didnt care towards the end cause he was peeked and game was essentially solved.

 

I never thought he was lacking bwfore the game was over

Dude... you did that game what your doing this game. 

[Sili Quirrels]

Dont plan on comtinuing this. i made my decision.

[Sili Quirrels]

Lacking in the same sense lol.

 

U guys need to read inbetween lines rn. I dont have time

[BFG]

 

 

And that isnt because ive been sussed literally this entire game, for varying degrees of reasons, most of them poor?

 

You want something counter to your post about my games BFG? Look at my last game. Sili was in it to.

Which one?

 

Lost, actually. It was a piss poor game. There was no WiM there. No conviction your saying I have in 20 posts thats more then ive had this game. Only failure. And I was town.

 

You'd voted Celeste (mafia) and addressed points to Besie, Nyn and Seph in a way that may help you determine alignment. Maybe not the strongest ouch you've made in recent games, but this game, even if you were to randomly go low effort there have been times when you should have been pushing Sili and instead tried to deflect him, you voted him despite thinking he could be town, yesterday your vote on Niniel was late, even though you were positive she was mafia and wanted to lynch her Day 1 (despite not pushing her) - first page of your ISO

 

 

I don't recall anything like that from you this game. I could be missing it because I have sketchy thread recall at this point, but I don't think I am

[BFG]

Ok, my tablets having a fit

 

I'm going to get some food and then I'll be back

[Guest]

 

 

 

I don't like that Darthe keeps bringing up the 3 mafia thing. I'm a new-er player and even to me a 3 mafia in a 16 player game sounds too little - if I'm correct in that the mafia gradually increases as the total players increase.

 

So that, if there's 3 in a 13 player game (other prev games), or 3 and a sk in a 15 player game (lost game), then surely there must be 4 mafia in a 16 player game?

 

It sounds like tmi from darthe, because for some reason, he's not getting to the above conclusion. It feels like he either knows there's only 3 mafia, meaning that he's maf. That, or he did come to the same conclusion but he believes there's only 3 maf because he is sk.

 

 

If we have to guess who is a sk and who is a maf, do we rather lynch the sk or the maf? In this case, I'd rather go for the person that could be either, but please answer the first question (anyone) - I'd like to know.

 

Furthermore, I don't like that he refuses to explain why he thinks I'm scum. I have asked multiple times. Initially I thought he might be faking a claim on me. But then there's been one or two posts where he "doubts" voting me, so, he outed his try at faking to be cop. Maybe it was cop cover. But he could do fake cop cover as well.

 

Typical % is 20-30% non-town depending on roles.

 

In a 16 player game I'd expect a mafia team of 4, with maybe a 3rd party. This is a Basic game, so I wouldn't expect anything wildly different

 

 

Can you explain the bold, I don't follow

Sure. I thought he was cop covering. Which is fine. So I wasn't too bothered. However, he is continuous pushing that I should be lynched, with no reason. In my mind, if I was another player, the only reason for that is that he's cop. But he's not, cause I'm not scum.

[Guest]

... I was defending myself against a possible fake reason.

 

... I think I'm thinking too far ahead.

[BFG]

 

 

 

I don't like that Darthe keeps bringing up the 3 mafia thing. I'm a new-er player and even to me a 3 mafia in a 16 player game sounds too little - if I'm correct in that the mafia gradually increases as the total players increase.

 

So that, if there's 3 in a 13 player game (other prev games), or 3 and a sk in a 15 player game (lost game), then surely there must be 4 mafia in a 16 player game?

 

It sounds like tmi from darthe, because for some reason, he's not getting to the above conclusion. It feels like he either knows there's only 3 mafia, meaning that he's maf. That, or he did come to the same conclusion but he believes there's only 3 maf because he is sk.

 

 

If we have to guess who is a sk and who is a maf, do we rather lynch the sk or the maf? In this case, I'd rather go for the person that could be either, but please answer the first question (anyone) - I'd like to know.

 

Furthermore, I don't like that he refuses to explain why he thinks I'm scum. I have asked multiple times. Initially I thought he might be faking a claim on me. But then there's been one or two posts where he "doubts" voting me, so, he outed his try at faking to be cop. Maybe it was cop cover. But he could do fake cop cover as well.

 

Typical % is 20-30% non-town depending on roles.

 

In a 16 player game I'd expect a mafia team of 4, with maybe a 3rd party. This is a Basic game, so I wouldn't expect anything wildly different

 

 

Can you explain the bold, I don't follow

 

Sure. I thought he was cop covering. Which is fine. So I wasn't too bothered. However, he is continuous pushing that I should be lynched, with no reason. In my mind, if I was another player, the only reason for that is that he's cop. But he's not, cause I'm not scum.

 

But if you're town and he's cop 'covering' than you should know that his cover is rubbish. Mafia would also know it's rubbish so as cover it fails and outs him as 'not cop'

 

What are your thoughts on Darthe outside his 'push' on you?

[BFG]

... I was defending myself against a possible fake reason.

 

... I think I'm thinking too far ahead.

Can you share thoughts on where you're at right now? In general?

[Guest]

I can, but it hasn't changed much. When I'm done with work today I'd like to iso darthe (which should help me find the specific reason to why he doesn't feel right - in response to your previous question too), Alanna (something bothered me D1, N1 - I want to find it), lenlo, wish and Kat.

 

Those are the ones I'm thinking the wolves might be in.

 

I'm currently putting my town core somewhere in myself, you, Hallia, and clov.

 

If I have time I want to go separate liz and lily - I know liz posted the most of the two so maybe I'll iso her to get a better feel? Of lily I don't know so maybe an iso too? Basically, im uncertain about them.

[BFG]

Hallia

Niniel

 

 

Sili

Chris

Laine

Wish

 

Besie

 

Lily

Kat

 

Liz

Darthe

 

Lenlo

 

Something like this? But most of my reasoning is super thin :(

[Guest]

Mmm... I think I'm trusting you because you're trusting me, which is prolly a stupid thing to do so I'll look into it.

[Guest]

Well I agree with you on Hallia. Even before she claimed she was posting town

[Guest]

Oh I forgot to add sili. He's also in my probably town core

[BFG]

I can, but it hasn't changed much. When I'm done with work today I'd like to iso darthe (which should help me find the specific reason to why he doesn't feel right - in response to your previous question too), Alanna (something bothered me D1, N1 - I want to find it), lenlo, wish and Kat.

 

Those are the ones I'm thinking the wolves might be in.

 

I'm currently putting my town core somewhere in myself, you, Hallia, and clov.

 

If I have time I want to go separate liz and lily - I know liz posted the most of the two so maybe I'll iso her to get a better feel? Of lily I don't know so maybe an iso too? Basically, im uncertain about them.

Don't hate it, I disagree with Laine/wish but they're the reads that are thinnest for me, so ???

[BFG]

Mmm... I think I'm trusting you because you're trusting me, which is prolly a stupid thing to do so I'll look into it.

It is a stupid reason :p

[BFG]

Now I will take another look at Lenlo when I get home, for the reason YOU asked me. I still think you're town, and I'm hoping I'm right so this can be 'that' game. But if you are, take a look at what I said about Lenlo today and tell me where you apparently thing Im wrong.

Thinking about this

 

This is probably really dirty if you're mafia

[alannalynn]

 

I'm at work right now... Can someone post cliffs for when I get home? I'm probably 80 pages behind right now; I can't promise I'll ever catch up but I can give feels, so hopefully that does something.

 

 

I GOT THE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

AND I put in my 2 weeks today <3

 

 

 

 

 

CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!

 

THANKSS I'm super excited, clearly hehe

 

I don't know if I can do cliffs, I'm behind as well.

Uhhh it seems nobody else took me up on the offer either. I don't even know where to start at this point, I'm just so freaking behind right now

 

I can, but it hasn't changed much. When I'm done with work today I'd like to iso darthe (which should help me find the specific reason to why he doesn't feel right - in response to your previous question too), Alanna (something bothered me D1, N1 - I want to find it), lenlo, wish and Kat.

 

Those are the ones I'm thinking the wolves might be in.

 

I'm currently putting my town core somewhere in myself, you, Hallia, and clov.

 

If I have time I want to go separate liz and lily - I know liz posted the most of the two so maybe I'll iso her to get a better feel? Of lily I don't know so maybe an iso too? Basically, im uncertain about them.

Let me know when you do, I think it's going to be easiest for me to respond for a little bit instead of link/quote/comment while I'm still catching up. Hopefully I can start fresh from here..? lol

 

 

Hallia

Niniel

 

Sili

Chris

Laine

Wish

 

Besie

 

Lily

Kat

 

Liz

Darthe

 

Lenlo

 

Something like this? But most of my reasoning is super thin :(

 

I kind of skimmed a few pages on my phone, I can't say I hate this list too much at all. I wouldn't mind a Lenlo lynch tomorrow, but I really need to do some reading to see if that's really a good option. Have there been cases already posted or do I just need to RAFO?

[BFG]

Cliffs

 

Niniel claimed limited Doc, Hallia backed her claim

 

Darthe has been pushing Besie for #raisins

 

Chris tried to switch votes from Dice (who he was pushing all day) to Besie because of #noraisins

 

Dice flipped VT (I lose my GOATDicereadstatus)

 

 

Case on Lenlo is essentially lack of any sort of conviction in his reads.

 

He responded to say that his Lost mafia game was similar, in ISO that's not true, it's possible he believes it though.

 

As to where to start

 

 

GLGL?

 

[BFG]

I would love it if everyone could weigh in on Liz/Darthe

[Niniel]

 

 

 

I don't like that Darthe keeps bringing up the 3 mafia thing. I'm a new-er player and even to me a 3 mafia in a 16 player game sounds too little - if I'm correct in that the mafia gradually increases as the total players increase.

 

So that, if there's 3 in a 13 player game (other prev games), or 3 and a sk in a 15 player game (lost game), then surely there must be 4 mafia in a 16 player game?

 

It sounds like tmi from darthe, because for some reason, he's not getting to the above conclusion. It feels like he either knows there's only 3 mafia, meaning that he's maf. That, or he did come to the same conclusion but he believes there's only 3 maf because he is sk.

 

 

If we have to guess who is a sk and who is a maf, do we rather lynch the sk or the maf? In this case, I'd rather go for the person that could be either, but please answer the first question (anyone) - I'd like to know.

 

Furthermore, I don't like that he refuses to explain why he thinks I'm scum. I have asked multiple times. Initially I thought he might be faking a claim on me. But then there's been one or two posts where he "doubts" voting me, so, he outed his try at faking to be cop. Maybe it was cop cover. But he could do fake cop cover as well.

 

Typical % is 20-30% non-town depending on roles.

 

In a 16 player game I'd expect a mafia team of 4, with maybe a 3rd party. This is a Basic game, so I wouldn't expect anything wildly different

 

 

Can you explain the bold, I don't follow

Sure. I thought he was cop covering. Which is fine. So I wasn't too bothered. However, he is continuous pushing that I should be lynched, with no reason. In my mind, if I was another player, the only reason for that is that he's cop. But he's not, cause I'm not scum.

 

 

Wasn´t it you that didn´t understand what cc meant? (I think it was you. Don´t have time to check now.) And you didn´t understand the basic of claiming at all. But you know about cop covering? Feels weird. 

 

Why didn´t you claim when you had so many votes?

 

 

Kat - you went after me pretty hard but then suddenly you changed your mind. This was before my claim. Why did you change your mind? 

[Niniel]

Liz - had you read the thread when you voted Dice? Why did you vote him? An explanation or a link to your reasons would be nice.

[Niniel]

I agree with BFG about Lenlo. Will take a new look there tomorrow. 

 

I accept that I might have been wrong about Wish. Will think about it some more.