[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

[Sili Quirrels]

 

a 15 player game lol, and was it a 3-3 wagon between kivam and hallia? how was the lynch decided? if it was rng kivam is probably town all considered.

RNG because Bessie unvoted to vote Turin because she believed Hallia and Kivs claims seconds before EoD. Just read it.

 

was there a possibility turin was going to get lynched?

[Lenlo]

 

 

a 15 player game lol, and was it a 3-3 wagon between kivam and hallia? how was the lynch decided? if it was rng kivam is probably town all considered.

RNG because Bessie unvoted to vote Turin because she believed Hallia and Kivs claims seconds before EoD. Just read it.

 

was there a possibility turin was going to get lynched?

 

Not really no. Her vote put him at 2, and it was literally seconds before deadline that she switched.

[Lenlo]

Bessie was on Kiv btw.

[Sili Quirrels]

bessie was one of the main proponents of people grouping, so that's ironic. what were her reads of hallia and kiv, and was her intent to rng between them?

[Sili Quirrels]

i would check this out myself if you don't know off the top of my head. i'm just asking because the information would inform my read of bessie.

[Eldrick4221]

Bah! Bed time.

This is why I thought Turin died. I have no idea why I read his name in the actual lynch.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

People who never expressed interest in voting Kiv, like me and Turin, did not cause Hallias lynch. Thats like saying the doc caused the NK because the protected the wrong person.

 

No, of the people on Hallias train I dare say Besie is one of the most accountable as she had been voting Kiv, had secured Kivs lynch effectively, but then said no.

You could have moved your votes.

 

Im not saying that you are but this line of reasoning we can argue balls and strikes over all day,

Could have, but I made it very clear I wasnt voting Kiv. Made that clear hours before hand. No one could reasonably expect me to move. Besie though had been voting him for hours. 10 seconds before deadline? Unvote go random. Its not just the unvote Z its the timing.

Sure. Blame me for Hallia's VT flip.

 

I trusted her VT claim. Are hou ignoring Kiv's? Do you think he's lying?

You trusted Her VT claim? So you unvote Kiv? Or are you saying to trusted Kivs claim, which was an expected claim btw I dont know why you believe it when its something you should have been expecting him to say the entire time he was being run up.

I dont understand why a VT claim is so easy for you to just trust. You went from lynching him to trusting him completely in 1 second flat.

This.

 

I don't get at all how you went from sussing people to trusting them from a VT claim, the most common fake claim by far.

[Sili Quirrels]

Oh did kivam claim? They both claimed? she didn't l ike the wagons cause they claimed vanilla?

 

Wow wow.

[Eldrick4221]

Oh did kivam claim? They both claimed? she didn't l ike the wagons cause they claimed vanilla?

 

Wow wow.

Pretty much.

[Eldrick4221]

Besie was sussing Kivam. I think she was also sussing hally.

 

She was advocating consolidating on whoever was mentioned the most in wtl (Kivam) to avoid random.

 

Hally and Kivam both claimed vt.

 

Besie stopped sussing both of them because of the vt claims.

 

Seconds before eod, she moves off of Kivam, putting him and hally at a tie for the lead, and onto Turin, who didn't have time to happen.

 

If besie is scum, Kivam probably isn't, and turin could be.

[Sili Quirrels]

good prognosis eldrick.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Lol'd at the triple response to the claim btw. I don't know why.

[Darthe]

Anyone wanna give Darthe a quick refresher on the main events of the game?  It'll affect who I doc tonight so.. your call.

[Darthe]

I can't find the post where I said Eldrick was town because of it...  Anyone?

[Zander?]

Z, did you apologize? I didn't see it.

 

Bess, fair enough. It always pings cause it feels like guilty conscience and that you really knew she would be town. Or that you just want to lynch everyone.

 

And now really off to bed.

 

Not likely rereading until Monday if alive

 

I did the  <3 <3 <3 as well.

[Darthe]

Zander, who are your reads?  You've the most posts so I kinda wanna sheep you though that's awful play.

[Zander?]

All of the arguments your using to justify it are bending the truth and ignoring the facts of how EoD went down. You switched seconds before EoD, securing a random. Your saying I should have moved off my top wolf read to secure a lynch on someone I wasnt wolf reading. Your trying to shift the blame.

 

I wish you were more invested in Meta cause this would make it easier.

 

But this is not her Scum game is all I can say.

 

Im not saying you cant be suspicious of her or her actions or whatever I really think she's just feeling her way through her first Town game,

 

Do with that what you will.

[Eldrick4221]

 

First of all, no. I don't want you to link me to another game. I'm not gonna look. I go on my personal experiences with people. If I wasn't in the game, it doesn't matter to me.

 

Secondly, you agree that understanding where people are coming from is useful. I wanted to know why you said what you did about seph, and your response was "why not". This is me trying to understand you, and you are blowing me off.

The above post alone practically guarantees town elrick. Havent read up yet, just saw that and wanted to comment.

Can you elaborate some on this Darthe?

My post. Your response. Zander's question. All wrapped up together. Needs a bow.

[Zander?]

Still reading up. Checked who the flip was before I posted this, but otherwise not current.

 

I'm keeping my Kivam vote.

 

I hope he flips scum. Then it'll be fun to see what everyone makes of you, Len.

If Kivam had been the flip, and flipped scum, I wouldn't have had an issue with lenlo's logic.

 

I agree with him that you are giving away responsibility for your actions by voting someone because they are the most popular choice in wtl. The flip itself doesn't matter. It's the concept that stinks.

 

It's good to look and see if who you want to lynch is getting support. It's not good to base your choice on said support.

 

 

Im confused.

[Zander?]

That quote is where I stopped reading, fyi. I need to go shopping with my mom, then I'll be back to finish catching up.

 

Also, it's probably been discussed, but how did Turin die? The vote was randed between hally and Kivam fwict

 

Turin isnt dead Eld....lololololololol

[Zander?]

 

I don't think he's very with the game... (eldrick)

 

Well, Len, if you're town like I thought you were, then we're in the same team and we can win together. Or try to.

 

Cause I still don't know what to do when nobody sees people who can clearly be scum.

If everyone disagrees, then find out why they disagree and hash it out until enough people see the same way? Dont just drop off then unvote and force us to random between two people you apparently believed to be VT?

 

 

Do you think she's more likely to do what she did as Scum?

[Eldrick4221]

 

All of the arguments your using to justify it are bending the truth and ignoring the facts of how EoD went down. You switched seconds before EoD, securing a random. Your saying I should have moved off my top wolf read to secure a lynch on someone I wasnt wolf reading. Your trying to shift the blame.

I wish you were more invested in Meta cause this would make it easier.

 

But this is not her Scum game is all I can say.

 

Im not saying you cant be suspicious of her or her actions or whatever I really think she's just feeling her way through her first Town game,

 

Do with that what you will.

The only way for you to know this isn't her scum game is if you are scum.

 

She could be scum and playing differently.

She could be trying to change her scum game to not get caught.

Her team would probably be different people and that affects scum play.

 

Or she could be town, and is therefore playing differently.

 

Can you really look at EoD and say it doesn't look bad for her?

[Eldrick4221]

 

Still reading up. Checked who the flip was before I posted this, but otherwise not current.

 

I'm keeping my Kivam vote.

 

I hope he flips scum. Then it'll be fun to see what everyone makes of you, Len.

If Kivam had been the flip, and flipped scum, I wouldn't have had an issue with lenlo's logic.

 

I agree with him that you are giving away responsibility for your actions by voting someone because they are the most popular choice in wtl. The flip itself doesn't matter. It's the concept that stinks.

 

It's good to look and see if who you want to lynch is getting support. It's not good to base your choice on said support.

Im confused.

About what?

[Zander?]

Just want to apologize again for being a dick when I came on today. I wasn't/still am not thinking straight and it was 100% me, not any of you.

 

I will only be angry at you if youre lying about the Masons claim!!!!

 

lololololololol

[Darthe]

 

 

First of all, no. I don't want you to link me to another game. I'm not gonna look. I go on my personal experiences with people. If I wasn't in the game, it doesn't matter to me.

 

Secondly, you agree that understanding where people are coming from is useful. I wanted to know why you said what you did about seph, and your response was "why not". This is me trying to understand you, and you are blowing me off.

The above post alone practically guarantees town elrick. Havent read up yet, just saw that and wanted to comment.

Can you elaborate some on this Darthe?

My post. Your response. Zander's question. All wrapped up together. Needs a bow.

 

Flat out sexy, thank you.  That post has a trifecta of townie awesome in it.  It's standoffish without being an attack (townies sometimes get that screw you I do what I want mentality but wolves don't like to stand out that much in general), second the tone is good (it doesn't look edited or thought out, Eldrick just punched out some words here and hit post, only really good wolves do that so that's another probabilities thing), and third Eldrick is trying to see things from another persons pov to better understand them (do i need to explain?).  All three together and you've got a really really really hard post for me to imagine coming from a wolf.