[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

[Shad_]

Zander 1.0 WTL EoD 1 was Kiv Darthe Hallia.

I mean you know this is irrelevant to the point and I don't see why you would go down these paths unless you don't have a good answer.

[Zander?]

 

 

I get credit for voting her over Besie yesterday. You and everyone on Besie at the end of the day do not. Today doesn't matter. Day 2 does.

 

But I dont?

 

 

 

This has been explained a dozen times.  Just like with the post count debacle the other day I feel like you're avoiding points that don't suit you.

 

Zander 1.0 was hard defending Besie and scum reading Celeste.  You know that scum!you has no choice but to vote Celeste there.  Put yourself in my shoes.  Why should I give you town credit for voting Celeste over Besie at EoD2?

 

 

If you want to tell me this Zander would have hesitated to lynch Celeste over Besie I don't know how to respond expect with my vote.

 

Shad FFS Zander 1.0 DIED NIGHT 1.

[Zander?]

WTF am I missing?

[Shad_]

Oh god I'm looking at your Dice progression and you're so outed right now brother.

 

I'm sorry you had to sub into a scum spot after being such a solid town.

[Thane Vakarian]

it's time for night to end imo... 

[Zander?]

Oh god I'm looking at your Dice progression and you're so outed right now brother.

 

I'm sorry you had to sub into a scum spot after being such a solid town.

 

What baffles me the most is you think Id ACTUALLY sub into a Scum slot.

 

Whats the issue with Dice?

[Thane Vakarian]

 

Oh god I'm looking at your Dice progression and you're so outed right now brother.

 

I'm sorry you had to sub into a scum spot after being such a solid town.

 

What baffles me the most is you think Id ACTUALLY sub into a Scum slot.

 

Whats the issue with Dice?

 

subbing in from town to wolf is possible. Town to town is possible. wolf to town in general unlikely (known that didn't happen here). Just my 2 pennies

 

Oh god I'm looking at your Dice progression and you're so outed right now brother.

 

I'm sorry you had to sub into a scum spot after being such a solid town.

 

What baffles me the most is you think Id ACTUALLY sub into a Scum slot.

 

Whats the issue with Dice?

 

subbing in from town to wolf is possible. Town to town is possible. wolf to town in general unlikely (known that didn't happen here). Just my 2 pennies

[Thane Vakarian]

lol, i got the dice posting syndrome too 

[Thane Vakarian]

it's contagious, RUN!!!

[Zander?]

Im not saying its impossible ffs

 

Im saying do you really think ZANDER would?

[Shad_]

These are your posts irt Dice since you subbed in, qfr:

 

 

 

 

that line takes that post from answering her question to insinuating that she knew that in a bad way. the tone of that line is sneering.

 

kinda like but you ALREADY knew that DIDNT YOU!!!???

Are you sussing Turin Dice?

 

I dont know if youre just picking a bone here or not,

 

 

 

Ive asked this more then once now.

 

Did you sus Nyn at all before me subbing in for her?

not really. but she didn't do much. I gave you my thoughts on dice, and I am currently re reading the others

 

I seen the Dice stuff.

 

Im just wondering cause it kinda seems like you just pulled this slot out of a hat.

 

 

Hey Shad can you get on this Dice/Darthe thing for a moment? Does it look interesting?

If by interesting you mean pointless then sure,

 

 

 

This is a bad argument.

Didnt you use the same thing against Dice Darthe....?????

 

Dice has seemed pretty Dice like besides the sheeping Thane parts.

 

@ turin i asked him because of his who am i going to doc tonight comment. If i was mafia i probably would have shot him because of it

If this is who I think its about its the only reason Ive been holding back pushing him real hard.

 

But on the other hand he could make a post like this as either alignment and even a VT imo.

 

Ya what I was getting at.

 

I dont know really what it says about Dice tho. Hes seemed fairly Dice like with the exception of his sheeping Thane.

His tone and thoughts processes seem normal.

 

He's not digging into mechanics.

 

Jokey but not overly jokey.

 

Other then the sheeping Thane and Darthe comment he seems ok to me.

 

And no he didnt claim Doc that I saw.

Grumpy is not jokey to me.

 

Ive commented on this. It along with the sheeping is why Dice isnt a solid Town read only a light one.

Why cant they be w/w?

 

I have Dice as slight Town but I wouldnt say they couldnt be tho.

 

She already admitted to voting Besie for self pres iirc.

Dices vote on Penny means nothing to me.

 

I dont tend to let other peoples reads effect my own.

 

I dont know if youre logic is flawed it just doesnt add up to me because I think Penny is Scum.

Also you drop your Dice Scum read pretty quickly.

 

Not a good look im.

It doesnt make sense for you to ask a question dont wait for a response, flip from your Scum read on Dice and vote me imo.

 

if celeste hasnt answered me or not a good one by 7pm my time i will hammer

Not a fan of either of these tbqh.

 

Agreed

 

But I still cant shake the sheeping part.

 

Thats really uncharacteristic of him imo.

Wait why is Sili in your PoE?

 

Didnt you switch him and Dice cause you were sussing Dice......

 

[Thane Vakarian]

Im not saying its impossible ffs

 

Im saying do you really think ZANDER would?

At this point in the game, seeing the remaining players, I can't fully exclude it, bro. You know I you 

 

ps: not game related: some Canadian exchange students will prepare poutine at Chae's work in 2 weeks, I said I wanna come to have some too!

[Shad_]

What baffles me the most is you think Id ACTUALLY sub into a Scum slot.

 

Whats the issue with Dice?

Second part, getting there. First part, this was brought up in QT and basically I'm not going to bank the game on speculation as to whether or not Sooh as a mod would spoiler a slot to potential sub candidates prior to acceptance.

[Zander?]

These are your posts irt Dice since you subbed in, qfr:

 

 

 

 

that line takes that post from answering her question to insinuating that she knew that in a bad way. the tone of that line is sneering.

 

kinda like but you ALREADY knew that DIDNT YOU!!!???

Are you sussing Turin Dice?

 

I dont know if youre just picking a bone here or not,

 

 

 

Ive asked this more then once now.

 

Did you sus Nyn at all before me subbing in for her?

not really. but she didn't do much. I gave you my thoughts on dice, and I am currently re reading the others

 

I seen the Dice stuff.

 

Im just wondering cause it kinda seems like you just pulled this slot out of a hat.

 

 

Hey Shad can you get on this Dice/Darthe thing for a moment? Does it look interesting?

If by interesting you mean pointless then sure,

 

 

 

This is a bad argument.

Didnt you use the same thing against Dice Darthe....?????

 

Dice has seemed pretty Dice like besides the sheeping Thane parts.

 

@ turin i asked him because of his who am i going to doc tonight comment. If i was mafia i probably would have shot him because of it

If this is who I think its about its the only reason Ive been holding back pushing him real hard.

 

But on the other hand he could make a post like this as either alignment and even a VT imo.

 

Ya what I was getting at.

 

I dont know really what it says about Dice tho. Hes seemed fairly Dice like with the exception of his sheeping Thane.

His tone and thoughts processes seem normal.

 

He's not digging into mechanics.

 

Jokey but not overly jokey.

 

Other then the sheeping Thane and Darthe comment he seems ok to me.

 

And no he didnt claim Doc that I saw.

Grumpy is not jokey to me.

 

Ive commented on this. It along with the sheeping is why Dice isnt a solid Town read only a light one.

Why cant they be w/w?

 

I have Dice as slight Town but I wouldnt say they couldnt be tho.

 

She already admitted to voting Besie for self pres iirc.

Dices vote on Penny means nothing to me.

 

I dont tend to let other peoples reads effect my own.

 

I dont know if youre logic is flawed it just doesnt add up to me because I think Penny is Scum.

Also you drop your Dice Scum read pretty quickly.

 

Not a good look im.

It doesnt make sense for you to ask a question dont wait for a response, flip from your Scum read on Dice and vote me imo.

 

if celeste hasnt answered me or not a good one by 7pm my time i will hammer

Not a fan of either of these tbqh.

 

Agreed

 

But I still cant shake the sheeping part.

 

Thats really uncharacteristic of him imo.

Wait why is Sili in your PoE?

 

Didnt you switch him and Dice cause you were sussing Dice......

 

 

OK how does this out me as you say.

[dicetosser1]

 

Oh god I'm looking at your Dice progression and you're so outed right now brother.

 

I'm sorry you had to sub into a scum spot after being such a solid town.

 

What baffles me the most is you think Id ACTUALLY sub into a Scum slot.

 

Whats the issue with Dice?

 

 

yeah shad get it RIGHT!  he would sub into a MINORITY TOWN role  not a scum one

 

lolololololololololol

 

lol, i got the dice posting syndrome too 

 

glad im not the only one

[Shad_]

Z1 on Dice. I initially mistook that vote as something more serious, so I need to reevaluate this a bit:

 

 

 

Need to see more from you brother.

Talk to me about your Dice read my dear.

 

Vote: Thane

 

also wtl Shad, Dice, Sili.

Either my reads are really off

 

or Turin prolly Town,

 

 

i am making no promises about DL thats like 5am for me

 

vote seph

 

absolutely following thane

Why?

 

 

hey zander!

 

guess what?? my pm says im Town!

 

 

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[unvote]

 

[v] Dice [/v]

 

Get rekt wolf

 

 

lmao

 

 

i thought of doing that to you last night

 

 

like the response tho u can be town dont let me down like thane did last time

Zander never disappoints....

 

Now you be Town as well and all will be well.

 

I really dont wanna [unvote] you for doing that tho....

 

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Thoughts on Derf and Kiv?

 

[v] Kiv [/v]

 

Turin were you voting Dice then unvoting him while sussing him still?????

we need a vc!!!!

 

dice are you voting anyone?

 

[Sili Quirrels]

y does it feel like turin is taking stuff very personally?

[Shad_]

Ok so here's the thing. Z1 doesn't have terribly much to say about Dice, but he's engaging him to try and solve him. There's feeling to it. He jokes around and gauges his tone and he's starting to get good vibes but it leaves off clearly a work in progress.

 

Z2 Dice drops off the radar almost entirely for four days except for one question that does continue the trend from Z1. He talks to Dice exactly three times in total post-sub, the first being that continuation. The second isn't about Dice but to comment on his Darthe point, where he makes the awkward statement I mentioned earlier that he's not pushing Darthe because of a soft claim that he thinks Darthe would make as either alignment. The third is recent, to say he didn't like Dice's vote-pending post irt Celeste. There's some indirect mentions "I don't like your move irt Dice" type stuff that doesn't pass any judgment on Dice directly.

 

But he does share his current thoughts on Dice, quite frequently. They are the following. Ahem:

 

Dice has seemed pretty Dice like besides the sheeping Thane parts.

Ya what I was getting at.

 

I dont know really what it says about Dice tho. Hes seemed fairly Dice like with the exception of his sheeping Thane.

His tone and thoughts processes seem normal.

 

He's not digging into mechanics.

 

Jokey but not overly jokey.

 

Other then the sheeping Thane and Darthe comment he seems ok to me.

 

And no he didnt claim Doc that I saw.

Grumpy is not jokey to me.

 

Ive commented on this. It along with the sheeping is why Dice isnt a solid Town read only a light one.

Why cant they be w/w?

 

I have Dice as slight Town but I wouldnt say they couldnt be tho.

 

She already admitted to voting Besie for self pres iirc.

Agreed

 

But I still cant shake the sheeping part.

 

Thats really uncharacteristic of him imo.

This is utter stagnation on a read. He literally just makes the same point over and over and over again drawing slightly more negative conclusions about it down the line. This is not how he treated Dice on D1 and this is not town Zander.

[Shad_]

I have a long day in the city tomorrow and I can't stay up long enough to be fully caught up. I won't be at my PC again until after phase ends. But Zander is outed and if I f'd up royally on Celeste at least I can offer my village this much.

[Shad_]

To be clear, those posts were all made across two days. He doesn't really talk about Dice at all until Dice becomes a general subject of conversation.

[Thane Vakarian]

well, I think, unless someone has a better idea (besides Zander) that a lynch on ZZtop is viable. Pending Night Actions

[Sili Quirrels]

im going to bet that if zander flips wolf turin reads into that and thinks dice is scum. could just as easily mean dice is town though.

[Shad_]

If it was anyone but Zander I'd say it spews Dice pretty lock clear tbh.

[Shad_]

The whole gradual trending down without any adjustment to the reasons.

[Sili Quirrels]

The whole gradual trending down without any adjustment to the reasons.

 

Hm. The behavior could reflect the increasing thread tendency to view Dice in a negative light and Zander is reacting to that. Wolf Zander probably doesn't feel like he needs to advance his wolf read on a scumbro though.