[Advanced] Salem Mafia - GAME OVER - MAFIA WIN

[seph]

 

 

A lot of my trust of Hallia was honestly based on her seeing what I was seeing irt Thane. 

she didn't really contribute, just said you made good points

 

 

I talked to her in whisper briefly.  She claimed to be tracking what I was saying and was willing to go there, but wanted to use the rest of the day to prod elsewhere first.

 

really wasn't much prodding, and wish you would of engaged me earlier.

 

im pretty lost here because i dislike thane and you from earlier. anyways im heading out. only5 mins left

[Eldrick4221]

Day 2 is over.

Nobody was lynched.

 

 

It is now Night 2

You have 24 hours to submit your actions.

 

[Eldrick4221]

Night is over.

 

Seph - Town Vigilante committed suicide from guilt.

 

Thane - Town Doctor was killed by Mafia.

 

Mafia have voting majority to eliminate the remaining opposition of BFG - Serial Killer

 

Congrats to Turin and Shad!

[Eldrick4221]

Apologies to everyone for the mistakes I made. I hope you guys at least had some fun.

[Eldrick4221]

Dead Thread:

 

http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/akL4uFkJm7S?m1=-1&mN=-1

[seph]

Gg everyone

[Eldrick4221]

Night Actions:

 

N0

 

 

BFG - Serial Killer  - Targeted Dice

Hally - Bodyguard - Targeted BFG

Lily - Vigilante - N/A

Shad - Janitor - Targeted Darthe

Dice - Transporter - Targeted Sili and Turin

Zander - Witch Targeted Sili > Darthe

Sili - Escort - Targeted BFG

Thane - Doctor - Targeted Shad

Darthe - Spy - N/A

Turin - Godfather - Targeted Darthe

 

Redirect:

Dice swapped Sili and Turin as targets - affected Zander

Control:

Zander controlled (Turin) to target Darthe

Block:

Sili blocked BFG (SK)

Protect:

Hally guarded BFG - Nobody attacked her

Thane protected Shad - Nobody attacked him

Kill:

BFG was blocked. Attacked her blocker. Sili died.

Turin was controlled to kill Darthe (original target lol)

Clean:

Shad cleaned Darthe - Successful

 

 

 

N1

 

 

BFG - Serial Killer  - Targeted Turin

Hally - Bodyguard - Targeted Shad

Seph - Vigilante - Targeted Hally

Shad - Janitor - Targeted Dice

Dice - Transporter - Targeted Dice and Hally

Thane - Doctor - Targeted BFG

Turin - Godfather - Targeted Dice

 

Redirect:

Dice swapped himself and Hally

Protect:

Hally guarded Shad - Nobody attacked him

Thane protected BFG - Nobody attacked him

Kill:

Seph attacked (Dice) - Killed a townie

Turin attacked (Hally)

Clean:

Shad cleaned (Hally) - Successful

 

 

 

N2

 

 

BFG - Serial Killer  - Didn't submit

Seph - Vigilante - N/A

Shad - Janitor - Didn't submit

Thane - Doctor - Targeted BFG

Turin - Godfather - Targeted Dice

 

Protect:

Thane protected Seph

Kill:

Turin attacked Thane

Clean:

N/A

[Eldrick4221]

Thane should be recognized for having spot on reads. Shame they didn't pan out.

 

Darthe and Sili had the game pretty much solved Day 1. If there was a medium, they would have wrecked the game.

[Shad_]

wtf BFG didn't shoot me?

 

You silly goose. Did I fool you with my PM or were you just afk?

 

Thane how in the bloody hell did you know the mafia team like seconds into the game? I thought for sure you either got a Lookout peek on Darthe's death or were the SK making stuff up. Those were some GOAT reads my friend.

 

I didn't realize BFG had high SK equity until late in the game when I reread her role description and saw that she redirects onto roleblockers, but by then Thane had claimed Doc and I was 100% convinced he was SK or an investigative role so I didn't know what to believe.

 

Still gotta give Turin the mvp for staying out of the suss pool pretty much all game and for that clutch shot on Thane at the end when I was telling him to holster. You earned this one bro. Thane GOAT of GOAT reads though, I have no idea wtf sparked in your head to solve this so fast.

[Shad_]

Eldrick I loved this game and thank you guys so much for modding.

 

Like there was so much mechanical tinfoiling going on and so much RNG and it just tripped my brain. It didn't play out like a good old scum hunt at all but god did I have fun speculating and being caught off guard by the goofy mechanics every phase.

[Shad_]

Seriously seriously clutch play by Turin shooting Thane in spite of me. I was completely convinced I'd see "Game Over - SK Wins" next time I clicked on this forum.

[Shad_]

I'll read DT in a couple days when I have some semblance of a life again.

 

I can link the mafia QTs if people want but it's really just a hundred posts of me rambling embarrassingly misguided mechanics speculation while Turin drilled it home.

[Shad_]

Oh and Zander we always mindmeld when we're on the same team bro.  I knew what you were.

[BFG]

 

I arrived back a few hours ago, between opening your ISO to check something and submitting I fell asleep

 

Well played mafia, I didn't deserve a win so I'm happy with this.

 

Thanks for modding Eldrick and sorry I was afk so much at the end

[Eldrick4221]

Well I'm glad the non-townies had fun :P

[Eldrick4221]

And there will be a sequel if you guys will allow me. 15 players next time. Not messing with that again.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

I arrived back a few hours ago, between opening your ISO to check something and submitting I fell asleep

 

Well played mafia, I didn't deserve a win so I'm happy with this.

 

Thanks for modding Eldrick and sorry I was afk so much at the end

You couldn't have won unless the night actions from all three parties went perfectly in your favor... because mafia had a gf who was immune to your nk.

[Eldrick4221]

If BFG has shot Shad, she would have won.

 

SK wins the tie against GF.

[Sili Quirrels]

If BFG has shot Shad, she would have won.

 

SK wins the tie against GF.

I would count that as a tie and I think everyone else would as well. Neither party would be able to achieve their win condition, and labeling one party the winner for an arbitrary reason such as difficulty is silly.

[Eldrick4221]

I asked Turin for his opinion, because he knew of the existence of both roles. He said the SK would deserve the win in that situation.

[Eldrick4221]

It's really the only situation where it comes up.

 

Roles with Night Immunity

GF, SK, Arso, Exe, BG (once), Survivor (4 times)

 

Arso's ignite ignores Immunity, and wins any tie

 

BG and Survivor wil eventually lose. Limited vests.

 

Exe has a seperate wincon. If they got their target lynched, the only way they would still be Exe at F2, then the other one would win too.

 

GF and SK are the only ones that have a grey area.

[Sili Quirrels]

I asked Turin for his opinion, because he knew of the existence of both roles. He said the SK would deserve the win in that situation.

 

Well if mafia is willing to concede the win then sure SK can win, but this is silly. The question of who deserves the win more is completely arbitrary and pointless. Fact is it is a draw, and you want to rng who get's the 'victory'? No, how about this, I say mafia deserve the win more. They clearly tried harder, and they clearly had a harder job. Turin is wrong.

[Eldrick4221]

Actually Survivor shouldn't even be on the list. If the F2 is Anyone* + Survivor, they both win.

 

*Besides Jester. They would lose by living to endgame :P

[Eldrick4221]

 

I asked Turin for his opinion, because he knew of the existence of both roles. He said the SK would deserve the win in that situation.

 

Well if mafia is willing to concede the win then sure SK can win, but this is silly. The question of who deserves the win more is completely arbitrary and pointless. Fact is it is a draw, and you want to rng who get's the 'victory'? No, how about this, I say mafia deserve the win more. They clearly tried harder, and they clearly had a harder job. Turin is wrong.

 

 

Both sides have merit. I was unsure how to play it out.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

I feel like this entire conversation is pointless.

 

Maybe you should hold a vote and whoever is most popular can win the game in that sort of situation. Seems completely fair.