the Hunt for the Dragon Reborn [Standard Mafia] Game Over town wins

[Darthe]

It is.

[Calder]

That works. Just making sure I was following you. Which I am not.

[Calder]

That is not exactly true. People that have never played with me before always turn on me by Day 2.

[Cory Caboose]

:popcorn:

 

ISOing dice now, just got back to PC

[Cory Caboose]

The first thing I get from ISOing dice is he clearly had no idea what was actually going on between Zander and Sooh.

Zander doesn't vote Sooh because he doesn't like her opinion; Zander votes Sooh because he doesn't think she's being genuine. I don't think that's necessary correct, but Zander has the right to think that.

Dice's high horse might literally have been a high horse.

 

That doesn't help now, but amusing that Dice got himself lynched for that whole thing, especially when his stance was stuff like:

 

ure bromance annoys me as well   you gonna vote me now?

 

Spoiler: he did.

[Darthe]

Lol ueah. And it confirms he didnt have the inside track on any of that so they are clear.

[Darthe]

That is not exactly true. People that have never played with me before always turn on me by Day 2.

Fascinating and not helpful for you. Not to diss laine but I happen to think shad was an interesting choice of NK and that she wouldnt have made it with a weak player as her teammate.

[Zander?]

First part of Turin's ISO on me:

 

I don't see any misrepping here at all, frankly. It just reads as someone interpreting data in a consistent and utterly foreign manner from how I do and being unable or unwilling to consider it from other POVs. Everything that he says happened really happened as he says, his conclusions just only make sense in a world where everyone agrees that Zander was dead serious about locking Cory town via a soul read.

 

Zander wasnt serious atp.

 

 

Laine: i did reply to Turins questions. You'll find that in my iso, I'm pretty certain

 

 

 

well, i'll try to have a good nights sleep and will see you all in the morrow.

 

Current feeling: gonna stick with the reads i had, we seem to be having a solid town core at this point.

 

 

one last thing: Keep it civilized, in-game and fun, people.... didn't really like reading through the past couple of pages.

Seriously, this is "I can't wait for a flip so I can start making reads" Thane we're talking about.

 

umm... nope. I am quite confident in the people i have townread and there's actually very little that could make me change that. The main focus should still be the grey/orange people i had pointed out. For once, I am happy with a D1 because we did manage a solid towncore and we will wreck some wolves this game. As for my reads not evolving.... how can they evolve if they don't change?     

 

Please make a full reads list with reasoning.  Theres more then enough to go off of atp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Right now what are your snap reads of everyone? Just say who.you legit think is town or mafia. Feel free to leave out the nulls. I'm curious.

 

Right now I will say I am suspicious of all the people that say things like "hopefully we will read each other right" or things like that.

 

Hallia, Shad, Thane jumping into the 4 v's.

 

I actually lean town on Sooh for the controversial post. I just don't see her making that post as mafia. Too likely to draw negative attention.

 

I think rest null. But only on phone so might have missed something.

 

I think Sooh drew negative attention by accident and the 'controversial' post came later, so I'm intensely null on it.  I have some silly gut thoughts that certain people are town, and they really aren't worth sharing atp.

 

Why not share your "silly thoughts"? 

You seem to be locked in about the one post questioning too early town reading/buddying/"backslapping". I still don't see why Sooh questioning the early interaction is so troubling. Explain please?

 

 

 

Because I (and Zander) felt she should have known better.  If she's town, then hey, she didn't and I can pocket that information for future games.

 

But like, when was the last game Zander as either alignment did not call Cory or Laine lock town or Lenlo lock scum within the first 5 minutes?

 

I expect Sooh to recognize that, to a degree that I'm wary she might have been faking but not prepared to call her scum for it.  I don't necessarily expect you to.  But why were you so concerned with me yet seemingly pretty comfortable with Zander when he was the one you thought had been dead serious about soul reading Cory lock town?

ditto

 

 

Double Ditto'd

 

 

 

 

 

Shad has a bit of an "eager puppy" vibe going on right now, and he hasn't to my knowledge taken any stances on anyone. This makes me suspicious of him.

Why?

 

Mafia want to hide amongst the town. If it can be accomplished early and for little to no game related reason it is easier.

Mafia also like to not have to take stances because then they need to make up reasons to change them if it is needed.

 

Well, he's not just answering for Dice.

 

 

Interesting.  What did you make from this?

[Darthe]

He's dead Jim

[Calder]

 

That is not exactly true. People that have never played with me before always turn on me by Day 2.

Fascinating and not helpful for you. Not to diss laine but I happen to think shad was an interesting choice of NK and that she wouldnt have made it with a weak player as her teammate.

Ok. I appreciate this post. Your stance makes way more sense if you think we are both scum.

 

Brings me to Dice. You are suggesting that he is such a bad wolf that he only separates his wolfmates as neutral reads? I find that hard to believe.

[Zander?]

I slept a lot last night. I´m almost not tired today. Yay! I have been too little involved in this game and now I´m way behind. I´ve read the thread but there is so much that I can´t follow. I will try to do some work after day starts. Or I will just sheep Cory. :D

 

Give us your currents thoughts Tina please.  You wanna just sheep Cory now but you wouldnt vote with us yesterday on Dice.  Why the change in heart now?

 

 

 

 

 

Right now what are your snap reads of everyone? Just say who.you legit think is town or mafia. Feel free to leave out the nulls. I'm curious.

 

Right now I will say I am suspicious of all the people that say things like "hopefully we will read each other right" or things like that.

 

Hallia, Shad, Thane jumping into the 4 v's.

 

I actually lean town on Sooh for the controversial post. I just don't see her making that post as mafia. Too likely to draw negative attention.

 

I think rest null. But only on phone so might have missed something.

 

I think Sooh drew negative attention by accident and the 'controversial' post came later, so I'm intensely null on it.  I have some silly gut thoughts that certain people are town, and they really aren't worth sharing atp.

 

Why not share your "silly thoughts"? 

You seem to be locked in about the one post questioning too early town reading/buddying/"backslapping". I still don't see why Sooh questioning the early interaction is so troubling. Explain please?

 

 

Because I (and Zander) felt she should have known better.  If she's town, then hey, she didn't and I can pocket that information for future games.

 

But like, when was the last game Zander as either alignment did not call Cory or Laine lock town or Lenlo lock scum within the first 5 minutes?

 

I expect Sooh to recognize that, to a degree that I'm wary she might have been faking but not prepared to call her scum for it.  I don't necessarily expect you to.  But why were you so concerned with me yet seemingly pretty comfortable with Zander when he was the one you thought had been dead serious about soul reading Cory lock town?

 

Noting that several people, jokingly or not, called Cory town straight from the get-go was something I wanted a response to. If that response is "It was a joke." then I will note that response and work with the information accordingly. If the answer is "you should know better", I'm not liking that response. That requires me to make assumptions about people, assumptions which they later can refute. I don't want to assume in mafia. I want to know.

 

 

But Sooh YOU KNOW how me and Cory interact.  Like I dont see any world where you dont get that was a joke.  And that bothers me.

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

I'm not staying up until 3 AM, so we're gonna hammer before that :P

 

Poor baby is a deadline awkward for you?  Shall I play you the worlds smallest violin?  Welcome to my mafia life

 

Actually I no longer feel bad about Dice's little rant.

 

If he wanted to be a jerk over me making a tongue-in-cheek aside about how I'd prefer a hammer, that's his deal. He clearly had a problem understanding what people were saying this game, so he can go be upset over nothing all he wants.

 

Petulant and childish.

[Cory Caboose]

Zander going for the derpclear.

 

Application processing.

 

Doing some stuff with dice's ISO and cataloging a few things.

[Calder]

Insubordinate and Childish.

[Darthe]

 

 

That is not exactly true. People that have never played with me before always turn on me by Day 2.

Fascinating and not helpful for you. Not to diss laine but I happen to think shad was an interesting choice of NK and that she wouldnt have made it with a weak player as her teammate.

Ok. I appreciate this post. Your stance makes way more sense if you think we are both scum.

Brings me to Dice. You are suggesting that he is such a bad wolf that he only separates his wolfmates as neutral reads? I find that hard to believe.

This could all be due doligence or could be game cracking. I dont know which yet but after looking back im significantly less impressed with you than I thought I was. That damn tone really covers for a lot.

[Darthe]

Churlish

[Darthe]

Shallow and pedantic

[Calder]

 

 

 

That is not exactly true. People that have never played with me before always turn on me by Day 2.

Fascinating and not helpful for you. Not to diss laine but I happen to think shad was an interesting choice of NK and that she wouldnt have made it with a weak player as her teammate.

Ok. I appreciate this post. Your stance makes way more sense if you think we are both scum.

Brings me to Dice. You are suggesting that he is such a bad wolf that he only separates his wolfmates as neutral reads? I find that hard to believe.

This could all be due doligence or could be game cracking. I dont know which yet but after looking back im significantly less impressed with you than I thought I was. That damn tone really covers for a lot.

I dont agree with your assessment of when I came in against Dice, since only Cory came out against him with a vote prior to me entering the thread. Other than that its fair game.

 

A friend of mine likes to discuss my flute playing. Its a tone thing.

[Calder]

Shallow and pedantic

If you really want to know how I feel about Hallia, flip her name around and re-read the posts regarding the mafia note I uncovered.

[Cory Caboose]

Doing my own little thing here. Colors are for his reads as per http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/97594-the-hunt-for-the-dragon-reborn-standard-mafia-night-1/?p=3623742

 

And he drops a town lean on Kat later as well for "tone". http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/97594-the-hunt-for-the-dragon-reborn-standard-mafia-night-1/page-49?do=findComment&comment=3623748

 

People dice quotes directly:

 

Zander 6

Cory 7

Shad 1

Hallia 1

 

People dice talks to without quoting:

 

Zander 2
Calder 1

Hallia 1

Thane 1

Turin 1

 

People dice mentions without interacting with:

 

Sooh 7

Hallia 2

Turin 2
Thane 2

Cory 2

Zander 2

Tina 1

Darthe 1

Kat 1

[Darthe]

Dice tells zander off in QT if they are teammates

[Cory Caboose]

Calder hummed in on Dice after my vote, but before my serious push or Shad's push IIRC.

 

Zander was there as well doing stuff.

[Cory Caboose]

Dice tells zander off in QT if they are teammates

 

This is very, very likely correct.

 

Dice and Zander went at it in QT in the Matrix game as w/w over some things IIRC and it never really leaked into the thread.

[Darthe]

Doing my own little thing here. Colors are for his reads as per http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/97594-the-hunt-for-the-dragon-reborn-standard-mafia-night-1/?p=3623742

 

And he drops a town lean on Kat later as well for "tone". http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/97594-the-hunt-for-the-dragon-reborn-standard-mafia-night-1/page-49?do=findComment&comment=3623748

 

People dice quotes directly:

 

Zander 6

Cory 7

Shad 1

Hallia 1

 

People dice talks to without quoting:

 

Zander 2

Calder 1

Hallia 1

Thane 1

Turin 1

 

 

People dice mentions without interacting with:

 

Sooh 7

Hallia 2

Turin 2Thane 2

Cory 2

Zander 2

Tina 1

Darthe 1

Kat 1

Its really odd how many greens got so little attention. Thats a focus area

[Zander?]

I think people just don't understand Thane's villager game.

 

It's so hilariously different from his wolf game because he doesn't even try to emulate his wolf game as a villager because doing so would probably get him mislynched fairly often (lol).

 

I could think of a bunch of words, but it's as simple as this:

 

Thane's wolf game, he's just a guy at the party laughing with everyone else.

 

Thane's villager game, he's a guy at the party who laughs with the group but goes outside to smoke and chat with the bad kids.

 

It's really almost as simple as "Thane doesn't really even bother to emulate his thought process as  a wolf", not that he does a bad job mimicking it.

 

His conversation with dice is exactly something that is straight from his villager game that also probably is the sort of thing why he gets mislynched. Everyone thinks dice is a wolf. Thane goes "IDK, let's talk to him", gets a relatively eh response from dice and goes, "I think he's frustrated, maybe a villager".

 

You might not like it, but those are the things he looks for and finds as his impetus for making reads.

 

He did surprise me (us?) in Supernatural tho.  Till the triple cop claim anyways lolololol

 

 

Shad almost stalked out of the Sitters meeting, serenity almost forgotten. The other 2 Blue sitters parted ways quickly, novices leapt out of his path and even the Accepted stepped sharply when they saw his face. Cairhien was still unsettled following Laman's death and that fool of a girl had run away. The Blues should be walking tall, but instead she had to deal with the mocking silence from the other Ajahs.

 

Shad turned a corner, this corridor mysteriously empty. He didn't hear the footsteps behind him. He felt the fireball that incinerated him though

 

Shad has been killed he was:

 

 

 

Eadyth, Vanilla Town

 

 

 

RIP ShadGOAT

 

 

[v]Turin[/v]

[V] alannalynn [/v]

 

Idc if he is 3p, we lynching wolves today

 

 

Darthe correct me if Im wrong on this.  But in Heart's Pokemon game (i think thats what it was)  didnt you push to have whoever claimed 3rd party lynched?

 

I dont recall your alignment that game tho, what was it?

 

 

 

Wheres tina

 

I´m actually reading the thread right now. I don´t know how to move on but I guess I have to ISO some people. It will have to be later though and I really hope that I´ll get the time.

 

Just a gut feeling but I´m not interested in Turin or Thane. (= I think they are town). I wonder if we should just lynch Verbal. The thing is he could have a pr and won´t be able to defend himself. Let me think about that. It´s usually not very popular to lynch people that isn´t here.

 

I will probably take a look at Sooh first. Not that I´m that good at reading her but at least I understand what she is saying. lol

 

 

Can you give us a reads list with reasoning please?  Id like to see you lay out all your thoughts.