[Standard] Chrono Trigger Mafia - Town wins Day 5!

[Andrej]

It's not about knowing 'how to play' the role.

 

It's about you claiming to have me a caught wolf for the entirety of D2 and then letting anyone but me get lynched

 

lolololololol

 

At one point you even told Thane that if it came down to him or Nolder you'd vote Nolder, this would've been the PERFECT opportunity for you to reiterate that lynching me was better if you were for real.

 

Ironically, Nolder and Thane were the two wagons but I guess that's when you fell asleep before you could vote Nolder, right?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

I'm having Monster Energy, sugar free and plenty of caffeine. Boring paperwork ain't helping.

 

Game related: Verb, Turin, Hallia... who'd look worse when I flip town?

Verb>Turin>Hallia

What does this mean?

 

 

Hallia looks best. I meant equal for the other 2.

 

 

Coming back to this, in your opinion, Zander, who looks worse on this lynch and why? Did you ever go back and look at Turin? 

 

 

 

I didnt go back and read fully no but iirc

 

Verb more or less voted him for pressure and that was the end of it.

 

Turin tried to build a case against Thane that wasnt all that strong but just saying Thane wasnt really doing anything and was just a wolf..

 

Neither really looks all that good tbqh.

 

The pressure vote at the time from Verb comes off more sincere then not imo.  People were calling out for Thane to get back in and were starting to get scummy vibes from him not.  The area I dislike was that he didnt come back but RL things can happen.

 

Turin at least tried to build a case albeit a weak one but what concerns me about it was the fat it didnt have really any solid substance to it and he seemed to kinda cheer-lead Thane's lynch on.

 

So Turin looks worse imo.

[Leelou]

Nolder, do you still have your vest? 

[Leelou]

Lenlo said he was either going to target AJ or Nolder. Lenlo ended up getting shot. AJ isn't dead, nor is Nolder. 

[Leelou]

AJ is claiming to have protected Hallia and Zander tracked me. 

[Leelou]

AJ, why protect Hallia over Lenlo? 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

You were on when Nolder was getting votes, your second mafia read. You didn't help get a lynch. Actually, while looking over your posts, Nolder has been your mafia read all game. You claim to have AJ in a lie, but did nothing to really try to persuade the town that he was lying. Help me make sense of you if you are town. 

 

 

 

I wanted to vote someone I had confirmed as Scum after his claimed peek on you over someone I thought was Scum.  I think I tried pretty hard to convince Town he was lying, look back at some of my posts when i use quotation marks on his words like claimed or peeked.  I worked very hard imo to get him lynched while not having to out myself.

 

 

lololololololol

 

Your EOD says otherwise, bro.

 

Screw what you said throughout the Day. You were there at one point, you even commented on the growing Nolder wagon, and yet you NEVER PUSHED ANYONE TO LYNCH ME.

 

THE PERSON YOU APPARENTLY TRACKED TO THE N1 KILL.

 

Wow, you blew that one.

 

 

Ya lets ignore a large portion of my day's posts because it doesnt fit the narrative your trying to fabricate. 

 

That sounds like a good plan....

[Zander?]

It's not about knowing 'how to play' the role.

 

It's about you claiming to have me a caught wolf for the entirety of D2 and then letting anyone but me get lynched

 

lolololololol

 

At one point you even told Thane that if it came down to him or Nolder you'd vote Nolder, this would've been the PERFECT opportunity for you to reiterate that lynching me was better if you were for real.

 

Ironically, Nolder and Thane were the two wagons but I guess that's when you fell asleep before you could vote Nolder, right?

 

I was asked a direct question I gave a direct answer.

 

I think its pretty obv I was not voting ANYONE over you.

 

Also with the lololololol's and the repeated liar comments....is that lololololcatting?

[Leelou]

Zander, do you have a read on me yet? One independent of Verbal? 

 

Zander, please answer this. 

[Zander?]

AJ, why protect Hallia over Lenlo? 

 

 

Why did he "peek" you for goning be away for the most part then say me who he had a fair bit of interaction with and was sussing me harder imo?

 

 

Cause he didnt do either one

 

[Andrej]

Look at these posts if you are town, please. No where during D2 did Zander legitimately try to get anyone else to lynch me. He argued with me all day, sure, but his vote alone wasn't going to get me lynched.

 

More importantly, with the DL ticking down and my wagon reduced to only one vote with Thane at three and Nolder's about to build, he NEVER fights and tries to push harder for me to get lynched. Does this sound like a Tracker with a guilty scum in their back pocket?

 

Hell no. Don't buy this bunk stuff he's pushing - he's lying and his actions at EOD prove it. If you have a guilty wolf you fight harder to get them lynched, period.

 

[unvote]

[v]Nolder[/v]

Let's mend this bridge.

 

I pulled my post to give a time reference. Even at this point, Zander was the only person on me and Thane was sitting at 3 votes. At no point did he try to sway anyone else to pile on. Surprising considering he knew I was scum, right?

 

Verb>Turin>Hallia

This probably outs Turin too, btw.

 

 

I don't think I'll remove my vote. Turin / Nolder trains wouldn't be too bad. Let's see if we can do that. Though, with this town.... 

 

 

Oh yeah, blame the people who have been here trying to solve.

 

This.

 

[redact Leelou's reads]

 

Other then the obv I dont hate this list,

 

I'm assuming what he means by 'the obv' is her scum read on him and town read on me. AGAIN WHY NOT PUSH ME HARDER HERE? Convince someone else that I'm scum - Zander's vote alone wasn't going to get me lynched.

 

Also @ Leelou.

 

Why do you think Verbs having trouble reading you?

 

 

[v]Nolder[/v] come out and play. 

 

Oh is this a thing

 

So, Zan. If it comes down to Nolder or me, who'd you vote?

 

I think that should be obv. 

 

 

Also @ Leelou.

 

Why do you think Verbs having trouble reading you?

 

Other than the obvious that I haven't been here? 

 

Yes

 

 

 

 

I'm having Monster Energy, sugar free and plenty of caffeine. Boring paperwork ain't helping.

Game related: Verb, Turin, Hallia... who'd look worse when I flip town?

Verb>Turin>Hallia

What does this mean?

 

Hallia looks best. I meant equal for the other 2.

 

 

humor me, Zan, I'm tired

 

Nolder sorry thought it was obv.

 

 

Voting anyone but his caught wolf?

 

You do the math. The wagons were 1/3/3 at this point. He doesn't reiterate that I'm a better lynch and he also doesn't swap to Nolder like he says he would.

 

2/2 scum points.

 

 

The only thing obvious to me is my lack of coffee *nods*

 

Thanks for replying, bro 

 

np.  get some sleep man!!

 

This may have been a good opportunity to one last time restate why your caught wolf was a better vote than Nolder.

 

[edited out Thane's post]

 

Vikings do what they want imo.

 

 

 

lolololololol

 

@ Leelou would you be alarmed if Verb came back and was still worried?

 

@ AJ are you saying if it wasnt for Lee's game play you'd believe the peek?

 

Interesting question considering he says he knows I didn't visit Leelou.

 

And while he's probably gonna say "I wanted you to answer so everyone could see" at what point EVER did Zander urge anyone else to vote me D2 when he supposedly tracked me killing Yates?

 

[redact Leelou]

 

Not a very good one no.

 

For me your tied to AJ for the time being.  Will have to wait for more info.

 

[redact Thane]

 

What would her flip tell us iyo?

 

 

Town/flip: AJ's peek credible. Outing himself as a PR made him a target nonetheless. Don't think he'd play like he did as wolf. 

 

Wolf/flip: GF dead, always good. 

 

 

 

@ Leelou would you be alarmed if Verb came back and was still worried?

@ AJ are you saying if it wasnt for Lee's game play you'd believe the peek?

Tbh idk. I didn't peek her with the intent of clearing her as town. I fully expected a scum result. She has the result going for her but I need to make my own call based on her content instead of just giving her the benefit of a doubt since there are possible roles that could've screwed with my NA.

 

He has more then once left himself an out.

 

This is like the only post that can may be interpreted as Zander pushing me. Literally the only one.

 

 

I had a few people I mulled over. Part of the deciding factor WAS the fact you'd be gone and had been so I wanted a result immediately.

 

Why not me?  You were sussing me D1 an voted me 1st thing D2.

 

Another post where he'll say he was 'questioning' me, etc etc. Again - even this is a very soft push for SOMEONE HE ALREADY KNEW WAS SCUM. This was his last post of the night, btw, with me still at 1 and Thane/Nolder tied at 3. Such urgency to lynch his caught wolf.

 

Zander didn't treat me like a caught wolf. He's only trying to claim now because we are in MyLo and he probably thought he could bank on at least Tina voting with him, with maybe some others for a quick hammer. It's bogus.

[Hallia]

[unvote]

 

It's heated right now, let's take a moment

[Andrej]

P-edit: I had to redact some quotes because there were too many for the limit. if you really want to see them just click on the back arrow in the top corner, but I didn't want to spoil the whole thing cause I want it out there.

 

@Leelou - It was a toss up between the two. Both were town reads for pretty much everyone, both were claimed PRs and one was vetted. Considering Lenlo had been voting me and Hallia with me - I figured scum would try to shoot her and take Lenlo into MyLo to give them someone else to vote in their favor.

[Zander?]

 

Zander, do you have a read on me yet? One independent of Verbal? 

 

Zander, please answer this. 

 

 

The fact you didnt do anything last night does bode well a bit in your favor as does the fact you werent on Thane's train.  Your contents been pretty good.  The only thing im trying to decide is if your questioning of my claim is coming from Town!Leelou legit trying to figure out if she believes me or Scum!Leelou trying to question my case to defend her partner. Gun to head Id prolly say the former especially when I factor in those previous things I mentioned.

 

Since you dont want me to include anything about Verb.  Something that Ive been struggling with is my AJ claimed to view you Town and not trust it.  Im looking at whether that should clear you or condemn you.

 

Youre obv not someone Im WTL today.  After AJ Id go Nolder over you for sure and go from there.

[Andrej]

 

Just giving you a taste of your own medicine.

 

lolololololololol

 

Where's your cocky smugness now? Your cute little gifs?

[Andrej]

This will be my last post of the night.

 

Read my post quoting Zander's EOD and you tell me you still think he's a Tracker who caught me killing Yates N1.

 

He slipped softly and quietly into the Night phase while, miraculously, another townie got lynched and his buddy Nolder that he's been awkwardly distancing from all game slipped the noose.

[Zander?]

[unvote]

 

[v]Nolder[/v]

 

Let's mend this bridge.

 

 

Yates slammed down another large bowl of soup - far larger than herself (why is everybody dying a guy representing a girl?) - on the floor in front of her.  It had been a fun, festive day that ended with the of casually killing of a very distant relative.  How else could the warrior princess celebrate besides eating fourteen bowls of soup?

 

Yates laid her head on a rock and closed her eyes.  Eating is hard work!  Now it was time for a nap...

 

But sleep would not come easy, as the sound of feet stomping on the hut's soft floor distracted her.  She rolled over with a grunt.  "Kino sleep, chase dino tomorrow."

 

A boulder was dropped on Yates's head.  Bits of brain matter, as underdeveloped as her primitive brain may have been, and strands of tiny gold hair could be seen underneath the edges.  It was kind of fitting, really.  Their tribe used shiny rocks for currency, and in the end, aren't we all just being crushed by capitalism?

 

 

Yates has been killed!  He was - 

 

 

 

Ayla, Vanilla Town!

 

 

You are a primitive, Amazon-like woman with a major crush on our protagonist.  You also have the role of Ayla in a mafia game, who is a primitive, Amazon-like woman with a major crush on the game's protagonist.  Joining the party some million years in the past over a shiny red rock, you spend your free time beating up on reptiles and riding pterodactyls.  Some of us live how others dream, I guess...

 

 

 

It is now Day Two!  With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch!  Day Two ends at approximately 6 PM EST on Monday, February 29th.

 

@AJ your mend the bride timestamp quote is Feb 29th 7:13 pm my time.

 

D2 started 2 to full rl days prior to that.  Youre just leaving that fact out completley and only focusing on one part and trying unsuccessfully to say I didnt do something that I obv did.

[Zander?]

 

I don't think I'll remove my vote. Turin / Nolder trains wouldn't be too bad. Let's see if we can do that. Though, with this town.... 

 

 

Oh yeah, blame the people who have been here trying to solve.

 

This.

 

I'll be happy to have conversations with anyone now that I'm around. Sorry not pulling quotes or going back for quote numbers, I'm exhausted from the weekend and want to jump into the game. 

 

Hallia - Claimed Informed Townie. Looking back over her posts and seeing Yates' flip, Hallia is town. If she isn't, I'll be shocked and that would have been one hell of a baller claim for her to pull off. 

 

Tina - Tina has been my strongest town read of the unclaimed townies since she started to dig into the game. Her posting has been relaxed and she's asking informative questions and I don't really see her asking half assed questions just to try to cover her meta. I can understand where she was coming from with her vote on AJ, so I don't hold that against her. 

Lenlo - Claimed CPR Doc. Lenlo seemed natural with his claim, and it felt genuine. 

AJ - Claimed JoaT. I'm okay with his claim, but I am still having mixed feelings if he's a townie JoaT, or a scum JoaT. A lot of his posts from D1 really had me leaning scum on him. I'm not really comfortable with the AtE I've seen today, but I've been that way myself from time to time as a frustrated townie. Giving him a pass for now and I'm going to try to work out the rest of the game. I don't really feel comfortable where he's clearing me as town and also throwing doubt out there on me in the same post, basically giving himself an out if he ends up getting me lynched and I flip town. 

 

Verbal - You are really annoying me by saying you can't clear me over and over. I get it. I haven't been here. I'm here now and the game has my 100% focus and I'm going try to not tunnel on anything anymore. I agree with you that I was probably tunneling on Hallia. I've liked most of your posts, but I'm keeping you as a mild town read for now. How you deal with me going forward will help me completely clear you. Also, if AJ is town, is Zander still a dark green? 

Turin - Lowest of my town reads. I haven't played with you in a long time, I've liked your level headed posts, that you've been interacting with others and I agree with your most recent reads. I'd like some interaction with you so I can firmly move you up to dark greens. 

 

Nol - There was the Tina misread, but then I was feeling better about him after he picked up his playing. His lack of thread presence is making him drop back down in my list again, also poe is placing him here. 

Zander - If AJ is for sure town, Zander is scum here. The amount of arguing in the thread between you two is drowning the thread out. I'm also not getting a town/town vibe from your interactions. Having one of your alignments for sure would be helpful to go back and look at your interactions. 

Thane - How does Thane have close to 50 posts and I really don't remember any of them?? I really don't agree with your list and I don't see what you are seeing in the game. I know I said I wouldn't do quote numbers, but I want to know what changed from here to here? I'd feel comfortable voting Thane. 

 

Other then the obv I dont hate this list,

 

 

Obv is obv imo AJ.

 

Im not gonna just sit there and scream AJ's a wolf...why you ask...because thats what I tend to do as Scum and get Scum read for it.

 

Once people look back and see the whole picture they'll see that I did push you all day.

[Leelou]

Hallia, what are your thoughts on AJ and Zander? 

[Zander?]

The one last push comment.

 

 

 

The only thing obvious to me is my lack of coffee *nods*

 

Thanks for replying, bro 

 

np.  get some sleep man!!

 

 

 

It's 1:00 am here.... i got up at 6:00 am yesterday, and i won't see a bad until 8:00 am.... ugh

 

 

Sounds like you could use some coffee.

 

 

In any case, DL is in.. 9 hours? I doubt I'll be around then. If I'm lucky, i'll be asleep after nearly 26 hours of being awake.

 

My vote will stay where it is *nods* Follow me, or do not. Lynch me, or don't. But like I've said: low postcount town lynched because of an 'off' reads list? Sketchy.... 

 

 

I'm still at work!

 

 

I might or might not check in again before DL, depending on how much sleep i can get

 

I did intend to try and be around for DL.

[Leelou]

The one last push comment.

 

 

 

The only thing obvious to me is my lack of coffee *nods*

 

Thanks for replying, bro 

 

np.  get some sleep man!!

 

 

 

It's 1:00 am here.... i got up at 6:00 am yesterday, and i won't see a bad until 8:00 am.... ugh

 

 

Sounds like you could use some coffee.

 

 

In any case, DL is in.. 9 hours? I doubt I'll be around then. If I'm lucky, i'll be asleep after nearly 26 hours of being awake.

 

My vote will stay where it is *nods* Follow me, or do not. Lynch me, or don't. But like I've said: low postcount town lynched because of an 'off' reads list? Sketchy.... 

 

 

I'm still at work!

 

 

I might or might not check in again before DL, depending on how much sleep i can get

 

I did intend to try and be around for DL.

 

??

[Zander?]

 Bolded is direct quote from AJ's WoT post trying to discredit my case,

 

 

@ Leelou would you be alarmed if Verb came back and was still worried?

 

@ AJ are you saying if it wasnt for Lee's game play you'd believe the peek?

 

"Interesting question considering he says he knows I didn't visit Leelou.

 

And while he's probably gonna say "I wanted you to answer so everyone could see" at what point EVER did Zander urge anyone else to vote me D2 when he supposedly tracked me killing Yates?"

 

 

Like how you try and and cast the obv answer with shade.

 

As for the Zander urge part:

 

Maybe if you stopped pretending that the first 2 rl days of Day 2 didnt happen youd see the answer for that yourself.

 

lolololololol

[Zander?]

Bold is AJ's quote,

 

 

 

Town/flip: AJ's peek credible. Outing himself as a PR made him a target nonetheless. Don't think he'd play like he did as wolf. 

 

Wolf/flip: GF dead, always good. 

 

 

 

@ Leelou would you be alarmed if Verb came back and was still worried?

@ AJ are you saying if it wasnt for Lee's game play you'd believe the peek?

Tbh idk. I didn't peek her with the intent of clearing her as town. I fully expected a scum result. She has the result going for her but I need to make my own call based on her content instead of just giving her the benefit of a doubt since there are possible roles that could've screwed with my NA.

 

 

He has more then once left himself an out.

 

 

 

"This is like the only post that can may be interpreted as Zander pushing me. Literally the only one."

 

More then 1= Literally the only one?

[Andrej]

All you did was bicker and throw dirt at me, trying to make a case on me being a hypocrite and straight ignoring the finer points of what I was saying.

 

You never tried to get me lynched. Your vote wouldn't have done it alone and when people started to unvote why didn't you encourage them to stay? Why didn't you push harder during EOD when Thane/Nolder were looking to be the wagons? You just meandered around like you have been all this game asking questions and making off hand comments.

 

It's simple. You didn't treat me like caught scum D2 and rally to get me lynched because you're lying about being a Tracker.

[Andrej]

What I did yesterday getting people to vote Nolder? that's how you push to lynch a suspect. And I went about that with way more effort than you who supposedly already knew I was scum.