[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

[Eldrick4221]

Why Hally? i'm actually feeling good about her. I agree with you  on Calder, and haven't gotten a read on manbat yet.

[Eldrick4221]

Not sure how much of my opinion of Calder is from D1, though. He's been on my scumdar since D0. It hasn't changed.

[Turin Turambar]

Hallia is in part due to the zander vote situation and in part due to her willingness to take the jokes out of her game To try to get town read. maybe it is the time away but I remember Town!Hallia being more defiant about her way of playing. There has also been some self meta defence which always pings me.

 

Calder is due to what appears to be a sea change from D0 in regards to manbat for seemingly no reason.

[Eldrick4221]

I don't remember that about her. What I like about Hally is she seems to play like I do. Just speaks what's on her mind. People were calling her play odd for her, and she tried to change it. I've been there too. I don't think it's a reason to suspect her.

 

As for Calder, gonna keep my eye on him and see what he does from here.

 

Starting to feel good about you though, Turin.

[Calder]

Hallia is in part due to the zander vote situation and in part due to her willingness to take the jokes out of her game To try to get town read. maybe it is the time away but I remember Town!Hallia being more defiant about her way of playing. There has also been some self meta defence which always pings me.

 

Calder is due to what appears to be a sea change from D0 in regards to manbat for seemingly no reason.

So your in the D0 matters camp?

[Eldrick4221]

 

Hallia is in part due to the zander vote situation and in part due to her willingness to take the jokes out of her game To try to get town read. maybe it is the time away but I remember Town!Hallia being more defiant about her way of playing. There has also been some self meta defence which always pings me.

 

Calder is due to what appears to be a sea change from D0 in regards to manbat for seemingly no reason.

So your in the D0 matters camp?

 

D0 must have had some relevance. You don't think it matters?

[Calder]

 

 

 

Hallia is in part due to the zander vote situation and in part due to her willingness to take the jokes out of her game To try to get town read. maybe it is the time away but I remember Town!Hallia being more defiant about her way of playing. There has also been some self meta defence which always pings me.

 

Calder is due to what appears to be a sea change from D0 in regards to manbat for seemingly no reason.

So your in the D0 matters camp?

D0 must have had some relevance. You don't think it matters?

I am 50/50. It kind of comes down to whether Cory and Clov would waste our time or not. Would they for a chuckle if they thought the game was balanced at 16 but not 17? I can't rule it out.

 

If D0 matters I vote manbat no issue. I explained my rationale earlier but gist was that he was vocal and detailed but came off to me as scum trying to appear that way. D1 interactions were the same, but more genuine. Conservatively off just D1 I have issue voting him.

[Turin Turambar]

 

Hallia is in part due to the zander vote situation and in part due to her willingness to take the jokes out of her game To try to get town read. maybe it is the time away but I remember Town!Hallia being more defiant about her way of playing. There has also been some self meta defence which always pings me.

 

Calder is due to what appears to be a sea change from D0 in regards to manbat for seemingly no reason.

So your in the D0 matters camp?

Of course it matters. The question regarding the setup is how it matters.

 

I don't see how this is a difficult concept tbh.

[Sooh]

Sooh, my reads will vary quite a bit depending on how I end up deciding on the setup and if people had alignments D0. If they didn't then all I have to go on is what people have done today and how that matches with how they acted yesterday.

 

Using my current thought that there were no alignments until today then I find manbat, Calder, and Hallia moat worrisome. Len is now starting to ping some and Alanna. That is more associative tho.

 

Csarmi is null but weird. However, that isn't enough to condemn him. I don't like Nolder bbasically not playing But he was like that yesterday so it is currently Null.

 

Pral is more likely town than not. Celeste I will need to wait for more information.

 

that's where I am off the top.of my head.

Could you talk a little bit about how Calder and Hallia worries you?

[Sooh]

Never mind. I just saw Eldrick asked some of the same.

[Eldrick4221]

I have issues with the concepts you use to scum hunt with.

 

While your ways to look for scum that are acting town may be effective, they are also good at finding town.

 

The concept of thinking someone is scum because they are trying to contribute to town just boggles my head. I'm reading through manbat's ISO, and don't see anything wrong with him yet.

[Eldrick4221]

It may just be that I like his playstyle, but after reading over manbat's ISO, I feel good about him. Moderately strong town read.

[Eldrick4221]

Turin. why do you find manbat worrisome?

[Eldrick4221]

Yeah. it's not enough to make it that strong of a read. It is mostly just liking his playstyle. But I'm definitely not getting a scum vibe from him. Slight town is more accurate.

[Calder]

I have issues with the concepts you use to scum hunt with.

 

While your ways to look for scum that are acting town may be effective, they are also good at finding town.

 

The concept of thinking someone is scum because they are trying to contribute to town just boggles my head. I'm reading through manbat's ISO, and don't see anything wrong with him yet.

I get that. Its def more risky. But the payoff is better too. Bc when you hit scum, you tend to hit the "upper echelon" members of the scum team. I have had a lot of past success with it. But, its mostly a gut thing so its odd to get early day support.

[Eldrick4221]

 

I have issues with the concepts you use to scum hunt with.

 

While your ways to look for scum that are acting town may be effective, they are also good at finding town.

 

The concept of thinking someone is scum because they are trying to contribute to town just boggles my head. I'm reading through manbat's ISO, and don't see anything wrong with him yet.

I get that. Its def more risky. But the payoff is better too. Bc when you hit scum, you tend to hit the "upper echelon" members of the scum team. I have had a lot of past success with it. But, its mostly a gut thing so its odd to get early day support.

 

Wouldn't it be better to look for the easier scum first? Good plan when looking for the remaining deep wolves, but why start with it?

[Calder]

 

 

 

I have issues with the concepts you use to scum hunt with.

 

While your ways to look for scum that are acting town may be effective, they are also good at finding town.

 

The concept of thinking someone is scum because they are trying to contribute to town just boggles my head. I'm reading through manbat's ISO, and don't see anything wrong with him yet.

I get that. Its def more risky. But the payoff is better too. Bc when you hit scum, you tend to hit the "upper echelon" members of the scum team. I have had a lot of past success with it. But, its mostly a gut thing so its odd to get early day support.

Wouldn't it be better to look for the easier scum first? Good plan when looking for the remaining deep wolves, but why start with it?

I dont remember ever losing to an inexperienced scum team. But, all a team really needs is one strong scum player they listen too to enact a solid game plan. My belief is cut-off the head as soon as possible. The rest would prob slip-up anyway.

[Eldrick4221]

What's your % at being right about this head?

[Calder]

What's your % at being right about this head?

80% as an investigator role where I followed the policy (4 of 5). Did not keep track of it if the person wasnt investigated or taken out right away. But this is when I was better at mafia and knew the people inside and out. I also randed scum about 70% of the time on home site so sample size has large standard deviation.

[Eldrick4221]

How well do you know manbat? I feel like there's a connection between you two.

[Calder]

How well do you know manbat? I feel like there's a connection between you two.

Never played with him before. But he fits a classic try hard Town hero archetype. Those types are consistent.

[Calder]

At least I dont think I have played with him before. Only 1 other game on this site. If Turin is right and the questioning of D0 is nonsensical than it should be manbat today.

[Eldrick4221]

I'd hate for the try hard town hero to be a mislynch. Actual town heroes are good to keep around.

 

#Full Zander

 

Anywho, I'm off work now. Going home and to bed. See you guys tonight.

[Calder]

I'd hate for the try hard town hero to be a mislynch. Actual town heroes are good to keep around.

 

#Full Zander

 

Anywho, I'm off work now. Going home and to bed. See you guys tonight.

The it would be bad for us to lose a town asset angle. Most common argument for sure. When manbat kills us all i hope it gives you comfort.

[Cory Caboose]

some rules are made

with all intentions to break 

and she defends it with a warped rationale. 

but i've seen what happens

to the wicked and proud 

when they decide to try to take on

the throne for the crown.