[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

Askthepizzaguy · January 6, 2016

Nomi - First of all I want to note that he is the only person still at 0. With the amount he posts I find that troubling. Actually as I type that I realize he should be in the negative for some of the things I pointed out earlier in regards to Celeste but I haven't had the time to enter them into my notes. So ok he "was" at 0 and that was bothering me a lot. Then we get into the Celeste thing. I'll try to keep this simple since it's meant to be a summary. He agrees Celeste is scummy but doesn't want to lynch her. I challenge him on that and he says she never dipped below -1 in his reads but then I find a post of his where he puts her as his bottom read. It doesn't make sense not to want to lynch your bottom read. This is a clear contradiction and IMO he's caught scum and needs to be lynched ASAP.

Celeste - I despise saying someone is a good lynch for information because I believe this is a common scum tactic to justify lynches when they have no better reason...but Celeste really would yield a lot of information from her lynch. She's been linked to Wish, Nomi, Kaylee, and Shad. I think he death would break open this weird circle of trust going on between these people. That all aside, I don't like how she refused to answer my sidewalk question. She voted Shad in post #500 for his "tone". She unvoted in post #879 saying he's "shaping up". These are vague reasons and I believe that's intentional. I believe I asked several times about her Rustlemania references but never received an answer that I recall. I also don't think she ever answered my question about Shad in post #793 when I asked her to put her read in terms of 1-10. This is all very shady IMHO.

Cass - Please note that this is not the case I wanted to bring to you guys. I wanted it to have more substance but right now it's more a bad feeling. Hopefully I will be able to flesh it out more later. First of all I want to note Cass tops out the negative side of my point spectrum with -3 right now which is a pretty bad score for D1 and she got it pretty early in D1 as well. In Post #44 she says she's slightly wary of Alanna and asks if she's a wolf. This is weird because it's only page 3 and Alanna has posted a total of 3 times. There's literally nothing to be wary of. I mean if that's just a joke/excuse to engage and ask if she's a wolf ok but it just stood out to me. Post #109 she explains why she's "wary" of Xander and Alanna. I found the post lacking and full of excuses. She says it's too early to be of consequence but if that's true then why did she even say it in the first place? Post #1386 she voted Csarmi and didn't give a reason. I'm all for reaction testing and whatnot but it seems that 1000+ posts in it's time to start giving reasons with votes. And that's all I got so far besides the fact that she went MIA after being townread early in the game. I don't expect anyone to lynch her over this but I intend to pursue it further and build on the case as the game goes forward. If she's scummy I'll certainly have more to work with.

Find the post where I said Turin, Celeste, and Kaylee were all at -1.

Those were my bottom 3.

I said it several times in fact.

JFC man.

Celeste is at the bottom of my POE after Turin.

Above Celeste is Kaylee and Csarmi.

Pralaya at null is above that.

In truth, I'd do some more reading before deciding.

And Celeste is the bottom.

But you refuse to lynch her.

I don't care about the imaginary number you've assigned to your read it's irrelevant.

You've stated she is at the bottom. The bottom. Not tied.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHJHJHJJJJJJJJJJ

I have 3 people at the bottom of my leans.

One of whom is removed from the bottom of my leans for whatever reason, leaves 2 people

At the bottom of my leans.

2 people

At the bottom of my leans.

2 people.

At the bottom.

2 at the bottom.

Who I have not even done a recent ISO on.

Enough!

Ok so two at the bottom. Turin claimed Doc.

The next logical place to go is Celeste.

Sorry for the long quote, got pasta in front of me.

I then ISO'ed celeste.

Posted it.

then ISO'ed Kaylee.

My bottom 3. I pushed or examined in detail all 3 of them.

Lenlo · January 6, 2016

I believe he said 3 at the bottom, turin claimed Doc, now theres 2. Those 2 being Celeste and Kaylee I believe.

Fair enough.

Still doesn't explain why he's unwilling to lynch someone at the bottom.

Im just clarifyin, ill let him answer that second part.

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

WTL atp:

Wish

Kay

Id have said Turin but claim so prolly Csarmi.

knowing that scum has fake claims, is there a possibility that Turin's is a fake claim?

its poss, easy way to figure out... is he on your Scum team?

-_-

Askthepizzaguy · January 6, 2016

Pizza calm down and talk to Zander buddy

You gotta assist with the lynching of a scum today.

That's all I got for you rn man.

csarmi · January 6, 2016

half*

Vanilla Town

And yea Len we have been through this before. I shall humour you.

Lenlo · January 6, 2016

half*

Vanilla Town

And yea Len we have been through this before. I shall humour you.

Have we?

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

half*

Vanilla Town

And yea Len we have been through this before. I shall humour you.

Is there any other reason we should keep you alive?

Also, want Shad's thoughts on this.

Zander? · January 6, 2016

unvote

Vote Csarmi

Zander, you and I can fight tomorrow.

[v] unvote[/v]

What do you think about the Csarmi claim/Pizza's case on him?

Im not with you yet today.

Csarmi defense of kay seems strange imo.

as does the timing of his claim.

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

Where's Celeste?

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

Laine is also absent.

meh

Zander? · January 6, 2016

Pizza calm down and talk to Zander buddy

You gotta assist with the lynching of a scum today.

That's all I got for you rn man.

WTL

WIsh

Kay

Csarmi

csarmi · January 6, 2016

Oh righ5 reads stuff.

Dont lynch Shad, Cass and Len ever. I believe Turin.

Second tier is Pray and Kaylee.

Askthepizzaguy · January 6, 2016

Pizza who do you feel is MORE LIKELY Scum. Kay or Csarmi....not whose gonna be todays lynch. but who is scummier?

Based on personal behavior, Kaylee.

Based on personal behavior and thread behavior, Csarmi.

If I had shots, I'd shoot here.

csarmi · January 6, 2016

half*

Vanilla Town

And yea Len we have been through this before. I shall humour you.

Have we?

Yea. No time for this now i really need to go to sleep. NN

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

unvote

Vote Csarmi

Zander, you and I can fight tomorrow.

[v] unvote[/v]

What do you think about the Csarmi claim/Pizza's case on him?

Im not with you yet today.

Csarmi defense of kay seems strange imo.

as does the timing of his claim.

what does this mean?

Don't think the timing is weird. Shad did ask him to claim. And iirc, thread kinda pressured him to full-claim. Agree with Pizza's point on csarmi setting Kaylee up.

Askthepizzaguy · January 6, 2016

WTL atp:

Wish

Kay

Id have said Turin but claim so prolly Csarmi.

knowing that scum has fake claims, is there a possibility that Turin's is a fake claim?

The specific character and role claimed means it's irrelevant even if it were fake.

He always dies, so he shouln't be in anyone's POE

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

half*

Vanilla Town

And yea Len we have been through this before. I shall humour you.

Have we?

Yea. No time for this now i really need to go to sleep. NN

Feel slightly bad about voting here when he goes to sleep, but woooot

[v] csarmi [/v]

Zander? · January 6, 2016

unvote

Vote Csarmi

Zander, you and I can fight tomorrow.

[v] unvote[/v]

What do you think about the Csarmi claim/Pizza's case on him?

Im not with you yet today.

Csarmi defense of kay seems strange imo.

as does the timing of his claim.

what does this mean?

Don't think the timing is weird. Shad did ask him to claim. And iirc, thread kinda pressured him to full-claim. Agree with Pizza's point on csarmi setting Kaylee up.

i mean im not done with you yet today.

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

WTL atp:

Wish

Kay

Id have said Turin but claim so prolly Csarmi.

knowing that scum has fake claims, is there a possibility that Turin's is a fake claim?

The specific character and role claimed means it's irrelevant even if it were fake.

He always dies, so he shouln't be in anyone's POE

already answered, Lenlo ninja'd you

Kaylee · January 6, 2016

Pretty sure this is the 4th time.

How far are you going to push that with nothing more then "I don't know why, but he does" Celeste?

wrt Celeste

She does this a lot. "I don't know why, but he does" -- really towny coming from her.

XDD

As scum, she can actually explain herself.

Noted

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

unvote

Vote Csarmi

Zander, you and I can fight tomorrow.

[v] unvote[/v]

What do you think about the Csarmi claim/Pizza's case on him?

Im not with you yet today.

Csarmi defense of kay seems strange imo.

as does the timing of his claim.

what does this mean?

Don't think the timing is weird. Shad did ask him to claim. And iirc, thread kinda pressured him to full-claim. Agree with Pizza's point on csarmi setting Kaylee up.

i mean im not done with you yet today.

I was in the middle of ISOing you.

Let's go.

Kaylee · January 6, 2016

Okay, guys...

Kaylee is probably town.

My English major senses are tingling.

But of course, it could be a major ploy to change her writing/posting style. BUT

Most people are not cognizant of this and would not actively change this. It's not natural to do so.

Posting observations shortly.

Sounds like you say you think I'm town, then change your mind. I'm confused

I'm saying I think you're town, with some reservations.

Thanks for clarifying

Zander? · January 6, 2016

WTL atp:

Wish

Kay

Id have said Turin but claim so prolly Csarmi.

knowing that scum has fake claims, is there a possibility that Turin's is a fake claim?

The specific character and role claimed means it's irrelevant even if it were fake.

He always dies, so he shouln't be in anyone's POE

vote wish with me Pizza. where do you have her?

wish-tree · January 6, 2016

Okay, guys...

Kaylee is probably town.

My English major senses are tingling.

But of course, it could be a major ploy to change her writing/posting style. BUT

Most people are not cognizant of this and would not actively change this. It's not natural to do so.

Posting observations shortly.

Sounds like you say you think I'm town, then change your mind. I'm confused
I'm saying I think you're town, with some reservations.
Thanks for clarifying

np

Kaylee · January 6, 2016

Also Kaylee had some really good players town reading her early.

It was just an all around outstanding game from her. My guess would be it was a well above average performance. (Not discrediting your scumming ability Kay, just saying you were especially impressive in that one.)

I agree. I surprised myself in that one.

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