[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

[Shad_]

Ok I failed.

 

Well, anyway, doesn't say anything about this game, just doesn't help.

[Shad_]

I looked at a bunch of Nolder games.  They teach me nothing.

 

You can't look back too far before the entire game environment changes.  Everyone fights and calls everything scummy and it's not about establishing a POE so much as finding your own private case and trying to push it louder than everyone else.

 

I can't say I found any game where Nolder has looked like this one at a glance, town or scum, to be honest.

[Shad_]

 

 

 

Pral is absent.

I'm fine with a lynch on an inactive but that's all that is.

Csarmi is almost in the same bag.

No idea why Lenlo is on your list.

I've been distant so this makes sense I guess, I don't want to be lynched though please.

And Kaylee I don't have many notes on but she's positive for me so dunno what you found lynchworthy.

Lenlo is on my list because I'd rather lynch him than the others I said I would not lynch. 

 

Kaylee has been more distant than not, as well. I would like to see her speak more and also I don't really like that she said that Penny's reads list was effort. It seemed to me to be a reward for behavior that had been forced. (I personally don't like forcing people to play outside their meta, as it makes it harder for me to read them)

 

(btw, Pizza, Penny doesn't really do effort that well. She is often a one-liner, so that's probably why you felt that something was off)

 

So Lenlo is just kind of there through a process of elimination?

 

pretty much so. 

 

You'd have to force me to vote him, but I would.

 

Anyone else I didn't mention here you wouldn't be able to force me to vote, if that makes sense.

 

 

Nolder's questioning in this exchange felt pretty honest to me.

[Nolder]

Ok I'm back.

[Nolder]

Hey Shad.

[Shad_]

Made it to the top of p11 in wish's ISO, she looks intensely townie.  The long delay in revoking her town read on Zander still trips me out a bit but there is literally nothing else in the entire ISO that pings me in the slightest so far.

[Shad_]

Hey Shad.

 

Sup?  I'm going to bed.  You've got like 2 minutes to ask me something.  >_>

[Nolder]

I have nothing to ask. 

I'm ready to vote Celeste and see what happens.

[Shad_]

Going to be interesting to see how Wish progressed to voting Kaylee, because she was extremely convinced she was town after csarmi's flip.

 

But that is a task for tomorrow.

[Nolder]

[v]Celeste[/v]

[Shad_]

Wish, I'm probably going to lock you in as town tomorrow unless I see things spiral down later in your ISO, but when you get a chance can you briefly explain what moved you from "Kaylee/Csarmi are never w/w here. Wouldn't make sense" to voting her?

 

Assuming I can lock Wish in, then either:

 

I'm wrong on Nolder

She's wrong on Celeste

Cass is scum

[Shad_]

Would have two shots to resolve 3 people. heh...

[Shad_]

Jesus christ it's 4am, I'm out

[Nolder]

Night Shad.

[Sooh]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Celeste (3): Shad, Laine, Nolder

Nolder (1): Celeste

 
Not voting (2): Wish, Cass
 
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Celeste is at L-1
 
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch
Deadline for Day 4 is Sunday, January 17 @ 9AM MST (11AM EST)
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160117T09&p0=197&msg=End+of+Day+Four&font=cursive&csz=1

[wish-tree]

With regards to why I moved to Kaylee was a wolf, it was mostly 1) I realized that a surface level analysis of her game could be misleading, which is more even more apparent after looking at Nolder, 2) I thought that she and Pralaya could not be w/w together, so if we resolved her, then we'd be able to resolve Pralaya, 3) she was at the bottom of my POE, 4) because Pizza asked for consolidation on her and made an executive decision to follow through.

[wish-tree]

*even more

[wish-tree]

Going to place my vote. I think Nolder and Cass are the remaining wolves. If there's only one, I'd resolve Nolder before Cass. [v] Nolder [/v]

[wish-tree]

Also, I reread the Kaylee lynch. It looks like Cass did vote after Shad hammered Kaylee, but her vote didn't count because a lynch was already achieved.

[wish-tree]

What do you think about that?

[wish-tree]

Also, I'm pretty sure I wasn't extremely convinced that Kaylee was town after Csarmi flip. After reading Kaylee games, I had her as town with reservations.

[Nolder]

Wait, what?

 

If you thought Kaylee/Pral couldn't be w/w and voted Kaylee off to resolve them...why did you vote Pral?

[wish-tree]

Because I thought it was either Kaylee or Pralaya that was a wolf. v/w or w/v. If Kaylee flipped v, then Pralaya was w.

[wish-tree]

If Kaylee flipped w, Pralaya was v.

[Celeste]

I don't care anymore. All I ask once you see my flip is lynch Nolder.

[unvote]

[v]Celeste[/v]