[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

[alannalynn]

 

[unvote] I'll give you time Shad. I don't 100% believe Nolder is scum anyways

 

This is frustrating. And I need to be at school in the morning and work tomorrow night so I wont be around much in the next day, but I'll definitely be here Saturday morning in RT. For now I absolutely need to go to bed

Every other time Nolder posts I backpeddle on my read and repeat the whole process of assessing him all over again.  -_-

 

He's like a ping pong ball bouncing back and forth from the dark side to the light side and I just wanna smack him down with my paddle but I have really bad aim and I'm not even sure he's bad but hitting him looks really fun.

[alannalynn]

O_o

[Celeste]

Shad why do you always backtrack with Nolder?

[Shad_]

I wish you would really just let me lynch Nolder though. But that's a waste if I think he could be town.

You know I hate being sheeped. I make it clear when town aren't allowed to lynch someone (Nynaeve in AoL). If everyone but me wants to lynch Nolder then ffs lynch Nolder. I'm not 100% on this one. Maybe 60%?

[Celeste]

Honestly i'm burnt out and it feels like this has gone on for a month.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

 

Nolder, did you read everything in this game at least once over?

Yeah.

I'm sure I glazed over a few posts here and there but I never fell behind an entire page and didn't catch up.

 

 

I guess I don't understand why you would have thought me a good lynch candidate going into D2 if you were actually informed on the course of events prior.  How did you reconcile your initial read on me with my treatment of Zander?

How does anyone reconcile such things? They shrug and say it's WIFOM and focus on more substantial concerns.

 

 

Wait.

 

WIFOM?

 

Then why did you drop your case on Pizza before he claimed the vig shot?

 

Or try this: briefly summarize (no rereading needed) how you recall my posts irt Zander on D1 and N1.

 

A lot of it had to do with guilt believe it or not. 

I felt bad for pushing him so hard.

 

I recall you guys fighting. Why?

[alannalynn]

 

I wish you would really just let me lynch Nolder though. But that's a waste if I think he could be town.

You know I hate being sheeped. I make it clear when town aren't allowed to lynch someone (Nynaeve in AoL). If everyone but me wants to lynch Nolder then ffs lynch Nolder. I'm not 100% on this one. Maybe 60%?

 

Just keeping my options open. You're my filter. I really really wanna lynch him but I also know I feel like he's town and you're the reminder that I feel that way, so keep it up

[Nolder]

If I'm mafia who's my partner?

Or do you all think there's only 3 mafs?

[alannalynn]

I think there's 3

 

This is a 13 player game, probably 3, I dont' see why there would be 4

[Shad_]

 

 

 

 

 

Nolder, did you read everything in this game at least once over?

Yeah.

I'm sure I glazed over a few posts here and there but I never fell behind an entire page and didn't catch up.

 

 

I guess I don't understand why you would have thought me a good lynch candidate going into D2 if you were actually informed on the course of events prior.  How did you reconcile your initial read on me with my treatment of Zander?

How does anyone reconcile such things? They shrug and say it's WIFOM and focus on more substantial concerns.

 

 

Wait.

 

WIFOM?

 

Then why did you drop your case on Pizza before he claimed the vig shot?

 

Or try this: briefly summarize (no rereading needed) how you recall my posts irt Zander on D1 and N1.

 

A lot of it had to do with guilt believe it or not. 

I felt bad for pushing him so hard.

 

I recall you guys fighting. Why?

 

 

Guilt over what?  He might have been scum.

 

"Fighting" is an odd characterization of it.  Do you recall what conclusions I drew?

[Nolder]

I think there's 3

 

This is a 13 player game, probably 3, I dont' see why there would be 4

Ok, well fair enough answer then.

 

My theory was there's 4 because so far we only saw goons so far and there was a vig kill.

I think scum would benefit more from numbers rather than a PR like GF or RB.

[Celeste]

I think there's 3

 

This is a 13 player game, probably 3, I dont' see why there would be 4

So we have had 2 Mafia goon flips, 2 Vanilla Towns, a 1 shot Vig, Doctor, and a Cop. 13 players and 3 mafia hrrmm I can't see it much.

[Shad_]

 

I think there's 3

 

This is a 13 player game, probably 3, I dont' see why there would be 4

So we have had 2 Mafia goon flips, 2 Vanilla Towns, a 1 shot Vig, Doctor, and a Cop. 13 players and 3 mafia hrrmm I can't see it much.

 

 

Can't see only 3 scum or can't see 4?

[Celeste]

 

 

I think there's 3

 

This is a 13 player game, probably 3, I dont' see why there would be 4

So we have had 2 Mafia goon flips, 2 Vanilla Towns, a 1 shot Vig, Doctor, and a Cop. 13 players and 3 mafia hrrmm I can't see it much.

 

 

Can't see only 3 scum or can't see 4?

 

Can't see just 3 because the basic setups i'm used to have 3p at some point or 4 mafia in this case.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nolder, did you read everything in this game at least once over?

Yeah.

I'm sure I glazed over a few posts here and there but I never fell behind an entire page and didn't catch up.

 

 

I guess I don't understand why you would have thought me a good lynch candidate going into D2 if you were actually informed on the course of events prior.  How did you reconcile your initial read on me with my treatment of Zander?

How does anyone reconcile such things? They shrug and say it's WIFOM and focus on more substantial concerns.

 

 

Wait.

 

WIFOM?

 

Then why did you drop your case on Pizza before he claimed the vig shot?

 

Or try this: briefly summarize (no rereading needed) how you recall my posts irt Zander on D1 and N1.

 

A lot of it had to do with guilt believe it or not. 

I felt bad for pushing him so hard.

 

I recall you guys fighting. Why?

 

 

Guilt over what?  He might have been scum.

 

"Fighting" is an odd characterization of it.  Do you recall what conclusions I drew?

 

Over being wrong mainly. Embarrassed too. Like I said to Alanna I thought I made a post about this and it turns out I didn't.

I spent like 15-30mins typing and retyping a post to him and I thought I finally posted it but I didn't.

I mean IDK I don't want to get weird and emo about it I just didn't feel good about being wrong ok?

I said that from the getgo at start of D2 although I was combative about it.

 

No I don't.

I'd have to reread it's been 120 pages since then you know?

Do you think it's important that I do?

How does it help us resolve today when I'm not aiming to lynch you today?

It's between me and Celeste (and maybe Cass I guess? IDK)

[alannalynn]

How about it doesn't matter and we should just find scum and lynch them?

[Celeste]

How about it doesn't matter and we should just find scum and lynch them?

Ok but at this point i'm getting paranoid about mislynching but I also believe my suspicion against Nolder more than I did Pral. If i'm wrong than I will just solve this out again. I know i'm scummy and I know it's getting close to the end. Some games are just harder than others.

[Shad_]

 

 

 

I think there's 3

 

This is a 13 player game, probably 3, I dont' see why there would be 4

So we have had 2 Mafia goon flips, 2 Vanilla Towns, a 1 shot Vig, Doctor, and a Cop. 13 players and 3 mafia hrrmm I can't see it much.

 

 

Can't see only 3 scum or can't see 4?

 

Can't see just 3 because the basic setups i'm used to have 3p at some point or 4 mafia in this case.

 

 

hmm...

 

Cop vs 3 goons is common.

My first game here was cop and doc vs GF and 2 goons.

A town vig is relatively neutral.

The two 13ers I've played with 4 goons had major off-sets (town had a night kill in one, town had cop doc masons and an innocent child in the other).

 

3 scum with an RB or GF is more likely in my limited experience.  Dunno about 3p, never saw one in a basic/standard game yet.

[Nolder]

How about it doesn't matter and we should just find scum and lynch them?

Well it does matter in the sense of whether we have another mislynch or not.

We should treat it like we don't though.

[Nolder]

Doesn't anybody but me feel the least bit perturbed by Celeste comparing me to my Rustlemania game 4-7 times and never explaining what she meant and lying that she did?

 

Just me huh? Ok...

[Celeste]

 

 

 

 

I think there's 3

 

This is a 13 player game, probably 3, I dont' see why there would be 4

So we have had 2 Mafia goon flips, 2 Vanilla Towns, a 1 shot Vig, Doctor, and a Cop. 13 players and 3 mafia hrrmm I can't see it much.

 

 

Can't see only 3 scum or can't see 4?

 

Can't see just 3 because the basic setups i'm used to have 3p at some point or 4 mafia in this case.

 

 

hmm...

 

Cop vs 3 goons is common.

My first game here was cop and doc vs GF and 2 goons.

A town vig is relatively neutral.

The two 13ers I've played with 4 goons had major off-sets (town had a night kill in one, town had cop doc masons and an innocent child in the other).

 

3 scum with an RB or GF is more likely in my limited experience.  Dunno about 3p, never saw one in a basic/standard game yet.

 

Argh this is just making me more paranoid. Your indecisiveness on Nolder though is driving me a bit bonkers.

[Celeste]

Doesn't anybody but me feel the least bit perturbed by Celeste comparing me to my Rustlemania game 4-7 times and never explaining what she meant and lying that she did?

 

Just me huh? Ok...

I DID EXPLAIN OK. MAYBE NOT TO GREAT DETAIL BUT I DID EXPLAIN. You don't settle well with me at all.

[Shad_]

*it was more complex than town having a night kill, but with certain limitations town mostly had control over the NK instead of scum, and everyone was a stump so the strongest towns could continue voicing their opinions through to end-game.

[Nolder]

I mean I'm the only one that ever even brings it up and no one but Celeste bothers to comment on it.

The closest she came to explaining was to say she couldn't explain. Something about my tone if I remember her post right.

Like really. This is what she's basing her suspicion on. I asked her what I did in this game that reminded her of that game and she could never tell me.

I know I've said this before but I really need to push it now because come on I'm on the chopping block and I've never even gotten a real answer to this.

[Nolder]

 

Doesn't anybody but me feel the least bit perturbed by Celeste comparing me to my Rustlemania game 4-7 times and never explaining what she meant and lying that she did?

 

Just me huh? Ok...

I DID EXPLAIN OK. MAYBE NOT TO GREAT DETAIL BUT I DID EXPLAIN. You don't settle well with me at all.

 

Celeste I will quote every single post you've made this game. Piece by piece and analyse each one.

I know no one in this game except MAYBE Lenlo has seen me go to this length because I haven't in a long time but I will do it.

You did not explain.