[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

[Lenlo]

That should destroy all remaining tinfoil on Askthepizzaguy.

 

Seriously, if the wolves do not kill me tonight, they're ludicrous.

As I said, no need to tinfoil today. 

[Lenlo]

 

Basically, it would have to be inside my blues, and you'd have to find that person and case them, and have it be correct.

 

I don't see that happening, do you?

It's entirely possible and basically I contradict your own godfather theory. I was in almost everybody's lynch pile. I also was pushed a lot by Zander. How does it make sense that I would be mafia?

 

And yet, a serious lynch on you never managed to build up more than 1-2 votes of steam.

[Lenlo]

That I remember atleast.

[Celeste]

I think I have a way to explain my Nolder and Prayala read. I need wish though to translate it because it's based off two similar play styles.

[Celeste]

So here I go. Nolder to me is a mix of the players dizzy/halcyon from my home site. Dizzy usually has the town tells to get away from lynches usually as both alignments. Halcyon has this uncertainty vibe around him as scum when being read which is my main concern with Nolder. It also feels like he gets away with the PoE in this game a bit more than me. Pralaya is basically like Kito to me who is really quiet and prefers scum to town roles. Meaning he is slightly more content filled when on the defense. I have to return to chores but this is my explanation. Hopefully wish can help me get it more clear if confused.

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

Basically, it would have to be inside my blues, and you'd have to find that person and case them, and have it be correct.

 

I don't see that happening, do you?

It's entirely possible and basically I contradict your own godfather theory. I was in almost everybody's lynch pile. I also was pushed a lot by Zander. How does it make sense that I would be mafia?

 

It would be more convincing had you gained votes, rather than just put forth as somewhat scummy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

 

Basically, it would have to be inside my blues, and you'd have to find that person and case them, and have it be correct.

 

I don't see that happening, do you?

It's entirely possible and basically I contradict your own godfather theory. I was in almost everybody's lynch pile. I also was pushed a lot by Zander. How does it make sense that I would be mafia?

 

And yet, a serious lynch on you never managed to build up more than 1-2 votes of steam.

 

Ninja'ed... like an hour ago.

[wish-tree]

Interpreting starting now:

Dizzy seems really towny in tone and motivation, and is rarely lynched.

Halcyon is hard and confusing to read. It's hard to pin him down. I think Celeste means that Nolder seems to be avoiding the lynch somehow, in a way she finds concerning.

 

 

[wish-tree]

As for Kito, he lurks a whole lot, so it's hard to accuse him of actually being scummy. However, when he's accused, he'll expand in terms of how much he says. Celeste seems to be comparing Pralaya's play to Kito's in terms of their tendencies and their behavior in different alignments.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

Basically, it would have to be inside my blues, and you'd have to find that person and case them, and have it be correct.

 

I don't see that happening, do you?

It's entirely possible and basically I contradict your own godfather theory. I was in almost everybody's lynch pile. I also was pushed a lot by Zander. How does it make sense that I would be mafia?

 

And yet, a serious lynch on you never managed to build up more than 1-2 votes of steam.

 

Ninja'ed... like an hour ago.

 

Your getting slow in your old age Pizza.

[Nolder]

Pizza: of those on his lynch Leno is town as likely cop. I'm town but in POE, pretty sure Laine is town. I have her as blue. So maybe a deep wolf in wish? If not than his train is clean. If he's town I'd expect wolves to want to take him down. Could be they're letting us hang one of our own. That could point to me next as the one who started his train. Problem is if Nolder and Cass are scum, they're not voting so that doesn't mean much from what I said.

 

Guess all that at to say he could be town. He's gone after me before and this feels the same. He was town from what I remember. That's more meta related than play related

Is my vote needed?

I've been holding it because I didn't want to rush the hammer.

 

I could vote Celeste but I didn't think anyone was willing to lynch her today.

[wish-tree]

Tapatalk is terrible. If you have any questions for me atm, let's talk without quoting

[Lenlo]

 

Pizza: of those on his lynch Leno is town as likely cop. I'm town but in POE, pretty sure Laine is town. I have her as blue. So maybe a deep wolf in wish? If not than his train is clean. If he's town I'd expect wolves to want to take him down. Could be they're letting us hang one of our own. That could point to me next as the one who started his train. Problem is if Nolder and Cass are scum, they're not voting so that doesn't mean much from what I said.

 

Guess all that at to say he could be town. He's gone after me before and this feels the same. He was town from what I remember. That's more meta related than play related

Is my vote needed?

I've been holding it because I didn't want to rush the hammer.

 

I could vote Celeste but I didn't think anyone was willing to lynch her today.

 

I aaaaaam.

[wish-tree]

How do the recent Celeste posts make you feel about her? @people who want to lynch her today

[Lenlo]

 

Basically, it would have to be inside my blues, and you'd have to find that person and case them, and have it be correct.

 

I don't see that happening, do you?

It's entirely possible and basically I contradict your own godfather theory. I was in almost everybody's lynch pile. I also was pushed a lot by Zander. How does it make sense that I would be mafia?

 

Well, this one is pretty bad.

[Kaylee]

 

 

Pizza: of those on his lynch Leno is town as likely cop. I'm town but in POE, pretty sure Laine is town. I have her as blue. So maybe a deep wolf in wish? If not than his train is clean. If he's town I'd expect wolves to want to take him down. Could be they're letting us hang one of our own. That could point to me next as the one who started his train. Problem is if Nolder and Cass are scum, they're not voting so that doesn't mean much from what I said.

 

Guess all that at to say he could be town. He's gone after me before and this feels the same. He was town from what I remember. That's more meta related than play related

Is my vote needed?

I've been holding it because I didn't want to rush the hammer.

 

I could vote Celeste but I didn't think anyone was willing to lynch her today.

It's been debated some as to if she could be town based on being on everyone's PoE.

[Nolder]

 

You do realize in order for me to be w/w with Pral that would make Celeste innocent right?

Just stew on that for 10 minutes and then let me know how it tastes.

Be honest.

 

This is why my vote isn't on you, and I'm largely recommending Celeste go first as well regardless of Pralaya's flip.

 

But, if Pralaya is innocent you have been very helpful to the scums this game. For certain values of "helpful".

 

That's why I read you based on your tone and what I think is your intent and think you're probably not the lynch, but at the same time, if we're not making more wolf blood spill today, I don't know where your game was this game and I have people much bluer than you.

 

I don't know about helpful but I had a wrong read on Csarmi and Pral*.

I'd like to note for the record my position on Alanna as well.

I think that in this game I am overestimating the town credit catching up is worth.

And I think that stems from the fact that I loathe catching up.

I would rather jump into a 500 page game and just go from page 500 onwards than reread 500 pages.

Or even 50 pages. Because if you don't do it FAST you'll always be catching up and that's no fun.

So I think that's where my reads on Csarmi, Alanna, and Pral have came from mostly and that's probably a mistake.

 

*I think I have the correct read now but lynch pending

[Nolder]

 

 

Pizza: of those on his lynch Leno is town as likely cop. I'm town but in POE, pretty sure Laine is town. I have her as blue. So maybe a deep wolf in wish? If not than his train is clean. If he's town I'd expect wolves to want to take him down. Could be they're letting us hang one of our own. That could point to me next as the one who started his train. Problem is if Nolder and Cass are scum, they're not voting so that doesn't mean much from what I said.

 

Guess all that at to say he could be town. He's gone after me before and this feels the same. He was town from what I remember. That's more meta related than play related

Is my vote needed?

I've been holding it because I didn't want to rush the hammer.

 

I could vote Celeste but I didn't think anyone was willing to lynch her today.

It's been debated some as to if she could be town based on being on everyone's PoE.

 

What do you think?

[wish-tree]

The post itself doesn't make sense... Lol

To me that's very town Celeste. XDDDD To be entirely blunt, she doesn't make much sense as town. Terrible at defending herself. Please read her and my recent explanations of her read/comparison of Pralaya and Nolder to two players we know.

[Kaylee]

How do the recent Celeste posts make you feel about her? @people who want to lynch her today

Don't know. Points for her possibly being town make me wonder if she is. But her actual posts...not as much. She could be scummy townie, but at this point not sure who I'd put below her.

[wish-tree]

She's a very scummy townie. :/

I tried to lynch her our first few games together as town. It was only after I hydra'd with her that I did learn how to read her.

[Kaylee]

 

What do you think?

I've said what I think.

[wish-tree]

Nolder, WTL? Reads?

[Kaylee]

She's a very scummy townie. :/I tried to lynch her our first few games together as town. It was only after I hydra'd with her that I did learn how to read her.

Nobody is voting her today last I saw. I agree if this is her town game it's a scummy one.

[wish-tree]

Oh, okay. Good. Let's keep it that way. We won't be lynching Celeste.