Diablo the mafia game!

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

You said you started reading when you made your first post.  That doesn't mean you didn't go back after the fact to check D1, and it doesn't mean you've managed to stay caught up with D2.  

 

But since you've seen it, why do you not feel that you can write off BFG due to AJ dying?

 

I find BFG's tone as town.  Is there a narrative from Day 1 that would suggest that BFG has a motive in AJ's death.  Please cite the evidence used in your analysis.  I'd offer my own if you ask.

 

 

And this is why I'm asking how much of the thread you've read.  If you HAD read the posts from this phase (and paid attention to them), you would know that multiple players - including myself - have said BFG is seer hunt cleared by AJ's death.  He fakepeeked her.  

 

So for the third time this phase, I'll repeat myself: the only way BFG is NOT mechanically clear is if you care to argue she's scum and she deliberately submitted a night kill on somebody she knew had no chance of being the cop.

 

 

Dude,

 

Why are asking another player to fabricate a case?  Why are you voting a player who has hard claimed Cop?  Your play here makes zero sense to me.

[Yates]

Since Clov is pretending to have me on ignore can one of you do me a solid and ask him what the pro Town motive is behind maintaining this stance on someone who has hard claimed cop?

 

Because like...

I put him on ignore because if I continue to read his posts, I'm going to do something I might actually feel bad for.

I would think if he was Town he would feel bad for mislynching the Cop, right?

 

Of course the reality is that he is in antispew mode. Literally the only reason not to respond to my posts is because he knows he is caught scum.

 

I don't even care if I get lynched at this point. I've found two thirds of the scum team by day 2. If you guys can't win the rest of the game without me then Town doesn't deserve this win. It's as simple as that.

[Zander?]

The shift in perspective by Clov on my slot is interesting. I wonder at which point he realized I'm the cop and I have a guilty on one of them - and he doesn't know which one - but I still managed to nail them both???

 

I think he knows who I peek in this situation but I'll let him tinfoil on that for a while...

 

So yeah. Hard claim cop. I have a guilty on one of Clov/Bender. So we are always lynching one of those two. And I'm intentionally sabotaging this game by not telling you which one I have the guilty on because, frankly, they are both scum.

 

lololololololololol

 

 

 

I think Yates will be happy to spot check me if I'm wrong.

That's the most minor point, tbh. It was really just a fact check.

 

Okay. So both you and I know that as cop I pretty much never check Bender N1 because I can read Zander. But let's say for the sake of argument that I went full noob and dug in my heels and checked him anyway and he cam back red. That's pretty much how confident I am in his scum flip.

 

So now let's look at how you have treated Bessie and Zander. From my perspective; do you see why I would be CRAZY suspicious of you? And then you include NB in your scum poe when he was willing to "just wing it" yesterday to vote for "scum" Bender. We both know that's not what a bus looks like. Not when the votes were that close.

 

So let's say I finally put my full case out there and Bender gets lynched and flips scum and I get killed tonight. Why should Town ever leave you alive tomorrow? Because I promise you that if anyone else is killed and you and I are both alive? I'm calling for a thunderdome.

 

 

 

 

What's your opinion on Tabor?

Undetermined. But I had her at like 60% likely scum with Bender at 95% and Clov at 85%. And the crazy thing is? I can see a scum team of EXACTLY Bender/Clov/Tabs based on interactions and certain posts directed at me.

 

 

 

Get rekt scum

 

[v] Yates [/v]

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

You said you started reading when you made your first post.  That doesn't mean you didn't go back after the fact to check D1, and it doesn't mean you've managed to stay caught up with D2.  

 

But since you've seen it, why do you not feel that you can write off BFG due to AJ dying?

 

I find BFG's tone as town.  Is there a narrative from Day 1 that would suggest that BFG has a motive in AJ's death.  Please cite the evidence used in your analysis.  I'd offer my own if you ask.

 

 

And this is why I'm asking how much of the thread you've read.  If you HAD read the posts from this phase (and paid attention to them), you would know that multiple players - including myself - have said BFG is seer hunt cleared by AJ's death.  He fakepeeked her.  

 

So for the third time this phase, I'll repeat myself: the only way BFG is NOT mechanically clear is if you care to argue she's scum and she deliberately submitted a night kill on somebody she knew had no chance of being the cop.

 

 

Dude,

 

Why are asking another player to fabricate a case?  Why are you voting a player who has hard claimed Cop?  Your play here makes zero sense to me.

 

 

Bold - This literally doesn't reflect ANYTHING I said.

 

 

Rest - I'm voting the player who has hard claimed cop because he's blatantly lying through his teeth.  He might be the cop.  Again, I doubt it, but he might be.  But I know for a fact he didn't cop me and I would be shocked if he has a guilty on Bender.  It would require him to have said "eh, I'm convinced this guy is scum and I'm going to burn a peek on it anyway".

[Yates]

It would require him to have said "eh, I'm convinced this guy is scum and I'm going to burn a peek on it anyway".

Pretty much. So I admit the odds that my red peek is on Clov is slightly higher. But I *still* want to lynch Bender first and give Clov the opportunity to spew his final teammate. It's somewhere in the Tab/Thane/Pral crowd but I feel like they have opportunities to Town clear themselves before becoming POE lynches.

[Zander?]

 

It would require him to have said "eh, I'm convinced this guy is scum and I'm going to burn a peek on it anyway".

Pretty much. So I admit the odds that my red peek is on Clov is slightly higher. But I *still* want to lynch Bender first and give Clov the opportunity to spew his final teammate. It's somewhere in the Tab/Thane/Pral crowd but I feel like they have opportunities to Town clear themselves before becoming POE lynches.

 

 

 

 

What's your opinion on Tabor?

Undetermined. But I had her at like 60% likely scum with Bender at 95% and Clov at 85%. And the crazy thing is? I can see a scum team of EXACTLY Bender/Clov/Tabs based on interactions and certain posts directed at me.

 

 

 

#TheMathsAreHard

 

 

lololololololololol

[Yates]

 

 

What's your opinion on Tabor?

Undetermined. But I had her at like 60% likely scum with Bender at 95% and Clov at 85%. And the crazy thing is? I can see a scum team of EXACTLY Bender/Clov/Tabs based on interactions and certain posts directed at me.

 

 

 

#TheMathsAreHard

 

 

lololololololololol

 

Awe damnit! Zander? You totally called me out on my BS. I'm so outed as scum. How could I be such a dumb dumb? I absolutely should have made those odds 100% well before claiming cop because having odds in the 90's isn't sure enough.

 

*Yates Cries*

 

WHHHHHYYYY???!!!

 

 

WHHHHYYYYYY AM I SO BAD AT THIS MAFIA GAME, LORD???!!!!

 

 

WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

*sobbing continues*

[Yates]

*Note to self: when cop trying to maintain some semblance as cop cover be sure to make odds of people being Town or scum 100% based on mod confirmed investigation results*

 

I've been waiting for this pro tip for a lonnnnnnng time....

[Yates]

Sorry. I meant to tone down the snark but you have to admit I'm being BAITED at this point, right?

[Yates]

Bender -> Clove -> Tab/Thane/Pral in some order and this game is over. Really just need one of those three to clear themselves to make this game easy.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

What's your opinion on Tabor?

Undetermined. But I had her at like 60% likely scum with Bender at 95% and Clov at 85%. And the crazy thing is? I can see a scum team of EXACTLY Bender/Clov/Tabs based on interactions and certain posts directed at me.

 

 

 

#TheMathsAreHard

 

 

lololololololololol

 

Awe damnit! Zander? You totally called me out on my BS. I'm so outed as scum. How could I be such a dumb dumb? I absolutely should have made those odds 100% well before claiming cop because having odds in the 90's isn't sure enough.

 

*Yates Cries*

 

WHHHHHYYYY???!!!

 

 

WHHHHYYYYYY AM I SO BAD AT THIS MAFIA GAME, LORD???!!!!

 

 

WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

*sobbing continues*

 

 

 

2 things I like how you "conveniently" left out the part  where you said "So I admit the odds that my red peek is on Clov is slightly higher." and I proceed to debunk that completely  and secondly 85% is not in the 90 percentile.

 

Again

 

#TheMathsAreHard

[Guest]

Yates. Sweetheart. What I see there is that you previously decided that Bender was the "scum read" you did, and by saying Clov has higher odds, you "changed" your "scum read" to him.

 

You also CONVENIENTLY deleted the first quote Zander did in that post.

[Guest]

*hi5's zander*

[Zander?]

*hi5's zander*

 

[Guest]

I don't think Bender needs to say anything more about yates for the time being. It should be clear why.

 

Tress, BFG, can I ask your opinion on Tab?

And BFG, can I ask your opinion on Tress too?

[Yates]

So now that people can see the game from my perspective...

 

We had a weak push on Yates by Zander - including the role fishing nonsense.

We had Clov think this obviously fake push was legit for questionable reasons.

Plus you have Clov soft defending Zander via Bessie to set up the noob card play.

Then we had Bessie throwing down the overly defensive stuff.

There's a sprinkling of OMGUS accusations by Zander.

This whole time neither head acknowledges posts I have made that refute their claims until EoD when they recognize they need to back off in order to secure a mislynch.

I intentionally vote my Town read seeing that my scum read is not going to go through.

As expected; this is brought up by Zander but he accidentally quoted the wrong post.

Clov comes in later and correctly identifies the post that is SUPPOSED to make me look scummy.

All of this gets summarily discredited because I demean myself to address the angleshoot stuff Bessie keeps bringing up.

Clov uses this as an excuse to fake ignore me because he is arriving at the realization that I suddenly have a ton of conviction in his slot as well now and realizes that if I'm the cop my peek was probably on him.

Despite having me on ignore Clove is "gracious" enough to "soft defend" me against some banal arguments and faked misunderstandings.

All three have used personal attacks [yes I count faking someone on ignore as an "attack"] to varying degrees of success.

Oh - and somewhere in here is the argument about how Zander is more likely to "forget" a seer cover peek that cleared BFG.

The driving force on the defense of Zander with this weak argument and Bessie with the "new Town" angle is Clov in both instances.

And neither [any of the three?] has presented a SHRED of anything that might resemble a case against me but have me as obv lock scum.

Oh. And they both conveniently forgot that Yates is known for gambits so I have to be lying scum and not gambiting Town.

And oh number two. They are just brushing aside the fact that AJ is dead and Clov is really the only person in the game who believed there was a chance of AJ being cop.

 

They are going all-in on this. And they don't even realize how outed they are. There is literally a zero percent chance - BY CLOV'S OWN ADMISSION - that scum Yates just gives up as scum in a one-for-one attempt at "outing" the real seer. They know this because Yates is an arrogant prick who thinks way too highly of himself and has an ego that requires a hangar door in order for me to enter a room. Any person who can be characterized like this is obviously going to want to be the scum that survives to the end of the game and pulls the puppet strings in the thread.

 

 

TL/DR - it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for Yates to ever be scum in this game by THEIR OWN ASSERTIONS.

 

I thank you for your time.

[Yates]

2 things I like how you "conveniently" left out the part  where you said "So I admit the odds that my red peek is on Clov is slightly higher." and I proceed to debunk that completely

Yeah. I must have missed that completely when I destroyed your argument by pointing out that I made that post while still trying to maintain cover and while I maintain that I want to lynch you first regardless of which of you I actually peeked?] Nice catch, bro.

[damnit. snark again!]

 

The less snarky version? Reread that post. I was still trying to maintain the illusion I could be VT at that point. And I was still trying to lynch you before Clov. Make more sense, brother?

 

and secondly 85% is not in the 90 percentile.

 

Again

 

#TheMathsAreHard

I won't even snark. You're right. 85% isn't the same as 90%. Being that I just made up the percentages to illustrate a point I had forgotten which percentage I had actually settled on for Clov. However I believe that reasonable people can assume that 85% is "close enough" to 90% to see that my argument still makes sense even given this nit picky observation that clearly does not disprove my point in any way shape or form.

[Yates]

I don't think Bender needs to say anything more about yates for the time being. It should be clear why.

It's clear. It's because you are scum and have no case. This has been clear since day 1.

[Zander?]

 

I think Yates will be happy to spot check me if I'm wrong.

That's the most minor point, tbh. It was really just a fact check.

 

Okay. So both you and I know that as cop I pretty much never check Bender N1 because I can read Zander. But let's say for the sake of argument that I went full noob and dug in my heels and checked him anyway and he cam back red. That's pretty much how confident I am in his scum flip.

 

So now let's look at how you have treated Bessie and Zander. From my perspective; do you see why I would be CRAZY suspicious of you? And then you include NB in your scum poe when he was willing to "just wing it" yesterday to vote for "scum" Bender. We both know that's not what a bus looks like. Not when the votes were that close.

 

So let's say I finally put my full case out there and Bender gets lynched and flips scum and I get killed tonight. Why should Town ever leave you alive tomorrow? Because I promise you that if anyone else is killed and you and I are both alive? I'm calling for a thunderdome.

 

 

 

Yates you are still side stepping and avoiding points I'm making.  Talk to me about the bold.  lolololololololol

[Guest]

@Yates

 

 

 

2 things I like how you "conveniently" left out the part  where you said "So I admit the odds that my red peek is on Clov is slightly higher." and I proceed to debunk that completely

Yeah. I must have missed that completely when I destroyed your argument by pointing out that I made that post while still trying to maintain cover and while I maintain that I want to lynch you first regardless of which of you I actually peeked?] Nice catch, bro.

[damnit. snark again!]

 

The less snarky version? Reread that post. I was still trying to maintain the illusion I could be VT at that point. And I was still trying to lynch you before Clov. Make more sense, brother?

 

and secondly 85% is not in the 90 percentile.

 

Again

 

#TheMathsAreHard

I won't even snark. You're right. 85% isn't the same as 90%. Being that I just made up the percentages to illustrate a point I had forgotten which percentage I had actually settled on for Clov. However I believe that reasonable people can assume that 85% is "close enough" to 90% to see that my argument still makes sense even given this nit picky observation that clearly does not disprove my point in any way shape or form.

Eh.... no. You weren't. You "hardclaimed cop" BEFORE saying that about Clov.

 

Proof in the quote below.

 

You are just attempting to hide your mistakes. You are scum. You lied about us. You probably lied about clov. You. Are. Scum.

 

This pathetic attempt to save yourself is sad.

 

 

 

The shift in perspective by Clov on my slot is interesting. I wonder at which point he realized I'm the cop and I have a guilty on one of them - and he doesn't know which one - but I still managed to nail them both???I think he knows who I peek in this situation but I'll let him tinfoil on that for a while...So yeah. Hard claim cop. I have a guilty on one of Clov/Bender. So we are always lynching one of those two. And I'm intentionally sabotaging this game by not telling you which one I have the guilty on because, frankly, they are both scum.

 

 

It would require him to have said "eh, I'm convinced this guy is scum and I'm going to burn a peek on it anyway".

Pretty much. So I admit the odds that my red peek is on Clov is slightly higher. But I *still* want to lynch Bender first and give Clov the opportunity to spew his final teammate. It's somewhere in the Tab/Thane/Pral crowd but I feel like they have opportunities to Town clear themselves before becoming POE lynches.

 

 

 

[Guest]

Guys, Z had something RL pop up to go to, and I'm exhausted. It's only 10.30 pm here but my brain has fried but I'm glad we found one wolf.

 

I'll check in tomorrow again.

[Yates]

Yates you are still side stepping and avoiding points I'm making.

If literally anyone not a part of your hydra is actually confused about why answering that directly is ant-Town [and you know it so you think you got me in a "gotcha!"] I will be happy to respond to them.

[Yates]

Eh.... no. You weren't. You "hardclaimed cop" BEFORE saying that about Clov.

Posted: 2:15AM my time

 

What's your opinion on Tabor?

Undetermined. But I had her at like 60% likely scum with Bender at 95% and Clov at 85%. And the crazy thing is? I can see a scum team of EXACTLY Bender/Clov/Tabs based on interactions and certain posts directed at me.

 

Posted: 12:57PM my time

The shift in perspective by Clov on my slot is interesting. I wonder at which point he realized I'm the cop and I have a guilty on one of them - and he doesn't know which one - but I still managed to nail them both???

 

I think he knows who I peek in this situation but I'll let him tinfoil on that for a while...

 

So yeah. Hard claim cop. I have a guilty on one of Clov/Bender. So we are always lynching one of those two. And I'm intentionally sabotaging this game by not telling you which one I have the guilty on because, frankly, they are both scum.

Let me see if I can guess what's coming next?

 

"Oh okay. I see. I must have misunderstood you again. I'm just a new player so I make these types of mistakes because I'm new."

[Pralaya]

[v]clov[/v]

 

I am fine with Yates claim.

[Yates]

Pral I like the idea but trust me when I say it is better to lynch Bender 1st.

 

I have never seen Clov as caught scum before so I'm not sure he even knows how to handle it as evidenced by his fake ignore of my posts. That tells me he is actually more likely to have spewed the 3rd scum than Bender.