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@Sili: Earlier, I said that your posts made so much sense. I was being sarcastic. Could you read between the lines? I ISO'd you when you contradicted yourself. Are you that self-confident?

What are you talking about? :huh:

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I'm also curious why Wish is on your list. She's been a controversial read.

Celeste and wish are different from last game. Their tone is town. Their content is town. So what one of them isnt 100% here. Or they sometimes have footinmputh. Its normal. wth.

I would be willing to vote Celeste.

 

I had another look at what she said the other day, and I think I leveled myself. She was really scummy.

  

 

[v]Celeste[/v]

 

I want to see how her slot reacts under pressure.

:'3333

 

I love how much sense you make. :wink:

 

 

This one. You conveniently change your mind when the entire thread begins to start reading Celeste/me as scum, before when you'd staunchly defended us against Eldrick.

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What I'm not getting is that some people refuse to answer people's posts and only pick and choose what they like answering, and they're calling Celeste out for, well, doing the same thing?

 

:tongue:

 

The irony. I've seen a lot of it this game. How is it this obvious and you guys aren't seeing it? I'm always super easy to lynch when I'm town.

 

I believe I'm a roleblocker of some sort because I did some research on my character. I targeted John Snow N1.

 

Remember how there were only two kills N1? One probably from town vig (who was Dice), and the other from either Loki/Mafia.

 

If I'm roleblocker, then I must have prevented a kill if both Loki and Mafia have NKs. John Snow is either Loki or Mafia.

 

This has what has been eating away at me. No one pointed that out, and it was so obvious to me. I've also been busy with friends, so I've had no time to post. RL is falling apart, and I'm kind of unstable atm, but Celeste hasn't been helping us look any more town, and I don't want to lose the ability I believe I can use for town.

 

@Sili: Earlier, I said that your posts made so much sense. I was being sarcastic. Could you read between the lines? I ISO'd you when you contradicted yourself. Are you that self-confident?

You're one of the many people I recall very little from in this game, what are your reads at the moment?

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I'm also curious why Wish is on your list. She's been a controversial read.

Celeste and wish are different from last game. Their tone is town. Their content is town. So what one of them isnt 100% here. Or they sometimes have footinmputh. Its normal. wth.

I would be willing to vote Celeste.

 

I had another look at what she said the other day, and I think I leveled myself. She was really scummy.

  

 

[v]Celeste[/v]

 

I want to see how her slot reacts under pressure.

:'3333

 

I love how much sense you make. :wink:

 

 

This one. You conveniently change your mind when the entire thread begins to start reading Celeste/me as scum, before when you'd staunchly defended us against Eldrick.

 

I explained why I changed my mind.

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^lol, Other than not liking Sili?

Lol.

 

I do like Sili personally, but I'm not liking what he's doing atm.

 

So far, my reads are contingent on as far as I can tell, observable results. I've changed my mind a lot since my last reads list.

 

Top scum: John Snow. Read above explanation. Atm idk if I was redirected, but if he had a kill, then I stopped it.

Scummy: Tress, Mish, Sili, Taborline

Town: Talya, Sooh/BFG, Lenlo, Leelou, Ocicat, Eldrick, Tina, Verbal

 

Some things I don't like: Mish's 'lynch my top two lynch candidates or you're scum'. Mish's desperate pushing of the theory that Celeste and I are Loki (XD).

Taborline's lurking and posting only to drop a vote on Celeste and me gives me a really bad feeling. It's too easy. Too convenient. :/

Sili's strong stance that we were town and then suddenly swapping his vote 'for reactions' while the thread was shifting towards us being the top WTL.

Tress, Talya, and Sooh using Cory's reads list to determine their own reads, but not even using the most updated version of that reads list.

 

 

Process of elimination says that Sooh, Verbal, Ocicat and Eldrick are town, when I before believed they were scum/null. Liking BFG's calmness and good analysis so far.

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I'm also curious why Wish is on your list. She's been a controversial read.

Celeste and wish are different from last game. Their tone is town. Their content is town. So what one of them isnt 100% here. Or they sometimes have footinmputh. Its normal. wth.

I would be willing to vote Celeste.

 

I had another look at what she said the other day, and I think I leveled myself. She was really scummy.

  

 

[v]Celeste[/v]

 

I want to see how her slot reacts under pressure.

:'3333

 

I love how much sense you make. :wink:

 

 

This one. You conveniently change your mind when the entire thread begins to start reading Celeste/me as scum, before when you'd staunchly defended us against Eldrick.

 

I explained why I changed my mind.

 

It was superbly timed, then.

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Tress, Talya, and Sooh using Cory's reads list to determine their own reads, but not even using the most updated version of that reads list.

Explain where I have used Cory's reads list to determine my own reads (with the exception of Sili, who I do not read well and who Cory was CONVINCED is town), and "not even using the most updated version of that reads list".

 

Pull quotes.

 

Show me.

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^lol, Other than not liking Sili?

Lol.

 

I do like Sili personally, but I'm not liking what he's doing atm.

 

So far, my reads are contingent on as far as I can tell, observable results. I've changed my mind a lot since my last reads list.

 

Top scum: John Snow. Read above explanation. Atm idk if I was redirected, but if he had a kill, then I stopped it.

Scummy: Tress, Mish, Sili, Taborline

Town: Talya, Sooh/BFG, Lenlo, Leelou, Ocicat, Eldrick, Tina, Verbal

 

Some things I don't like: Mish's 'lynch my top two lynch candidates or you're scum'. Mish's desperate pushing of the theory that Celeste and I are Loki (XD).

Taborline's lurking and posting only to drop a vote on Celeste and me gives me a really bad feeling. It's too easy. Too convenient. :/

Sili's strong stance that we were town and then suddenly swapping his vote 'for reactions' while the thread was shifting towards us being the top WTL.

Tress, Talya, and Sooh using Cory's reads list to determine their own reads, but not even using the most updated version of that reads list.

 

 

Process of elimination says that Sooh, Verbal, Ocicat and Eldrick are town, when I before believed they were scum/null. Liking BFG's calmness and good analysis so far.

 

Thanks :)

 

It's going to be a while before I can really comment on this, why do you have Soot and Talya as using Cory's read list as a -ve, but have us as town?

 

Also from our conversation earlier Talya is against using Cory's list, so why is that a -ve in your opinion?

 

What's Celeste thinking on this?

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^lol, Other than not liking Sili?

Lol.

 

I do like Sili personally, but I'm not liking what he's doing atm.

 

So far, my reads are contingent on as far as I can tell, observable results. I've changed my mind a lot since my last reads list.

 

Top scum: John Snow. Read above explanation. Atm idk if I was redirected, but if he had a kill, then I stopped it.

Scummy: Tress, Mish, Sili, Taborline

Town: Talya, Sooh/BFG, Lenlo, Leelou, Ocicat, Eldrick, Tina, Verbal

 

Some things I don't like: Mish's 'lynch my top two lynch candidates or you're scum'. Mish's desperate pushing of the theory that Celeste and I are Loki (XD).

Taborline's lurking and posting only to drop a vote on Celeste and me gives me a really bad feeling. It's too easy. Too convenient. :/

Sili's strong stance that we were town and then suddenly swapping his vote 'for reactions' while the thread was shifting towards us being the top WTL.

Tress, Talya, and Sooh using Cory's reads list to determine their own reads, but not even using the most updated version of that reads list.

 

 

Process of elimination says that Sooh, Verbal, Ocicat and Eldrick are town, when I before believed they were scum/null. Liking BFG's calmness and good analysis so far.

 

 

How is my vote too convenient, when I've been looking at you for a while, and had you in my scum pile?

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Tress, Talya, and Sooh using Cory's reads list to determine their own reads, but not even using the most updated version of that reads list.

Explain where I have used Cory's reads list to determine my own reads (with the exception of Sili, who I do not read well and who Cory was CONVINCED is town), and "not even using the most updated version of that reads list".

 

Pull quotes.

 

Show me.

 

 

Let me expand on this.  You have actually used Cory's reads to determine your own, as shown in the chart you posted.  The only read of mine that was directly influenced by Cory is Sili because I admit my failure to understand him. If Cory is town, Cory's opinion on him is worth 80 million times more than mine, because I will always, always, always be baffled by Sili.

 

I did post Cory's last reads list with his addenda at the start of Day 2 for reference, because this is something that is ongoing with Cory - he complains bitterly when people ignore his reads for the rest of the game after he's killed early.  And he's usually pretty spot on, as BFG attested to earlier.   My reads - except for Sili - are never going to be "I think he's town because Cory said he's town".  Never.  And even in Sili's case, there have been things that, viewed through the lens of Cory's conviction that Sili is town, make me feel comfortable agreeing.

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What I'm not getting is that some people refuse to answer people's posts and only pick and choose what they like answering, and they're calling Celeste out for, well, doing the same thing?

 

:tongue:

 

The irony. I've seen a lot of it this game. How is it this obvious and you guys aren't seeing it? I'm always super easy to lynch when I'm town.

 

I believe I'm a roleblocker of some sort because I did some research on my character. I targeted John Snow N1.

 

Remember how there were only two kills N1? One probably from town vig (who was Dice), and the other from either Loki/Mafia.

 

If I'm roleblocker, then I must have prevented a kill if both Loki and Mafia have NKs. John Snow is either Loki or Mafia.

 

This has what has been eating away at me. No one pointed that out, and it was so obvious to me. I've also been busy with friends, so I've had no time to post. RL is falling apart, and I'm kind of unstable atm, but Celeste hasn't been helping us look any more town, and I don't want to lose the ability I believe I can use for town.

 

@Sili: Earlier, I said that your posts made so much sense. I was being sarcastic. Could you read between the lines? I ISO'd you when you contradicted yourself. Are you that self-confident?

WOAH WOAH WOAH

 

What? Where does this come from?

 

First how do you know your a RB? Second how can you guarantee Loki had a kill? Third how do you know your block, if you have any, went through on JS?

 

There's to many whats, to many questions, to many speculations with no barring in this post and I hate it.

 

I'm out right now, but when I get back I'll bring this up more and most likely vote uou. Just can't remember what the vote tags are right now

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I'm also curious why Wish is on your list. She's been a controversial read.

Celeste and wish are different from last game. Their tone is town. Their content is town. So what one of them isnt 100% here. Or they sometimes have footinmputh. Its normal. wth.

I would be willing to vote Celeste.

 

I had another look at what she said the other day, and I think I leveled myself. She was really scummy.

  

 

[v]Celeste[/v]

 

I want to see how her slot reacts under pressure.

:'3333

 

I love how much sense you make. :wink:

 

 

This one. You conveniently change your mind when the entire thread begins to start reading Celeste/me as scum, before when you'd staunchly defended us against Eldrick.

 

I explained why I changed my mind.

 

It was superbly timed, then.

 

Indeed, but maybe I decided to pay more attention to your slot since the thread was.

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