Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Cory Caboose]

Yet you do not comment on them or take them into consideration :( I dunno. I feel like the Oci/Wisheste situation was pretty important but not a single soul has commented on it.

 

I have 16 other slots to juggle, 2 of which I'm pretty sure are wolves

 

Your considerations are noted and I'll look it over again

[Pralaya]

 

Statements like these are clearly stupid. Everyone knows that I have not missed a single NA during my entire time in DM. So, I have no idea what you are talking about or what you are trying to imply here. 

 

If we have a 48 hour night phase on Saturday/Sunday would you get your NA in?

 

Serious question

 

 

Yeah, done that before. Just because I don't play during weekends doesn't mean I am not aware of the game and the state it is in. 

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

Statements like these are clearly stupid. Everyone knows that I have not missed a single NA during my entire time in DM. So, I have no idea what you are talking about or what you are trying to imply here. 

 

If we have a 48 hour night phase on Saturday/Sunday would you get your NA in?

 

Serious question

 

 

Yeah, done that before. Just because I don't play during weekends doesn't mean I am not aware of the game and the state it is in. 

 

 

You should try posting in real time once in awhile in either role

 

I looked through your reads and I'm still pretty sure you are a wolf

 

Nothing personal brother

[Verbal32]

Why do I keep having this feeling that no-one actually reads my posts?

 

 

 

 

 

The more I think about it, the worse I feel about Oci and Wisheste. In hindsight Celeste randomly calling me out feels weird... It wouldn't have bothered me if it was a player that was used to playing with me. But I'd already reminded people in the thread I wasn't gonna be on my normal activity this weekend. Makes it seem like she didn't really read my post. It was weird. That combined with she trying to make it seem like I said something I didn't... I feel very uncomfortable about her now.

 

Then with Oci several times linking me and Celeste, and him defending them, it makes it seem to me like they are mafia together, and he's setting me up to look bad if they get lynched.

 

I will refer you to the post Tina's already made instead of pulling the same quotes: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/95348-ragnarok-game-thread-d1/?p=3538339

 

This does not read like town and town to me. It's either mafia buddies, or one mafia one Loki. But I'm thinking buddies.

 

Oci is the one that makes me feel most iffy for trying to tie me and Celeste together like that, so that's where my vote will go atm. But I'm more than willing to switch to Wisheste too.

 

[v] Oci[/v]

???

If we're scum buddies <3 (Oci and Celeste/moi), then why would you look bad if we get lynched? Wouldn't it give you town credit if you flip us and we're scum?

 

Also, hola. First day of classes over. I got some blisters from wearing slightly uncomfortable shoes. :/

 

Celeste has mod duties elsewhere, so it's my job to post atm. Sorry for being MIA. RL, etc.

 

 

If you are scum buddies, and one of you get lynched, it might look like I'm a team member with you. It won't now, because I've called you out on it. But if Tina hadn't drawn my attention to it, it would've looked quite bad.

 

Why aren't you worried about the fact that Oci is trying very hard to link us?

 

 

*snipped*

 

Also Celeste: I would prefer if you went back and figured out wich post you tried to say it was me who had made. I don't like that you don't double check your facts before stating someone said something. It doesn't sit well with me that you tried to shove an opinion on me I never made.

I thought it was you and with no post quote system here it makes it harder to look for facts. I will try and find it but it's going to take me a while. 

 

 

Why aren't you worried about the fact that Oci is trying to link us? In fact, why aren't you aknowledging my post at all?

 

Lynching wolves > Lynching villagers for "information"

 

I mean Ocicat COULD be a wolf and I am in no way saying he is a villager but I think he's = rand at worst and we'd mostly be lynching him because we don't understand him.

 

I want to lynch Pral or Verbal today.

 

I read your post, and I agree with parts, although not when it comes to Pral (i make a point about that later in my post). But I'm honestly more concerned with those people who actually do things badly than those that do nothing today.

 

Eyy btw, I'm going to go with my (paint) color theory for doing the mafia/town/3P sliding scale thingy.

 

Town----------------------------------------------------------------------Null-------------------------------------------------Mafia------------------------------------------------------Loki

 

Moi/Celeste, Lenlo, Key/Cory, Sooh, Tress, Sili, Leelou, Tina, Dice, Talya, Verbal, Mish, Pral, Tabor, Jon Snow, Ocicat, Eldrick, ??? (possibly Jon Snow, Pral, Mish, Talya? suspect lurkers of being Loki.)

 

I too wish you would have marked where each group ended. I would like to know why I'm suddenly in your bottom pile when I don't think you've even mentioned a read on me so far.

 

 

I have literally no idea how to hunt 3P besides hoping they are somehow generically wolfy in the same way wolves are

 

Just going to sort of hope we luck into killing him at some point or the wolves do it for us

I would think that the 3P would lurk. It looks like Mafia and town would be best served to get rid of him, which still (imo) is more advantageous for Mafia, because it takes the attention off of them.

 

 

A page or two before this you said you thought it was a bad idea to lurk inactives, and yet here you are planting the seed that Loki is amongst the inactives. Very handy considering the fact that you've now spammed enough to not be considered an inactive anymore.

 

 

Vote Pral with me.

I was coming to that anyway, although I hope this doesn't just stay as a tie. Vote: Pralya

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And to summarize what I was trying to post, Sooh, yes, that was a polished and crafted post, it was a defense against a valid point, not a free-flowing thought. Eldrick, I don't know any more than anyone else. Everyone knows their alignment. My point was that I couldn't defend my careless slip, but going after me would be an error.

 

 

And you neither aknowledge my post...

 

FYI: Ignoring me is just gonna make me all the more determined to shake answers out of you.

 

 

 

 

My issue with him is I have trouble not seeing him as town alot of the time. 

 

This doesn't sound like an issue to me

 

Tip to reading Cory: read him town, he's earned it

 

(I am 100% a villager this game for all you paranoid patricias, but tinfoil on so I can put you on my dartboard of people who've lost faith)

 

 

Im sold that cory is not MAFIA.  He does have Loki possibilities but I still think he is town

 

 

Vote Pral with me.

I was coming to that anyway, although I hope this doesn't just stay as a tie. Vote: Pralya

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And to summarize what I was trying to post, Sooh, yes, that was a polished and crafted post, it was a defense against a valid point, not a free-flowing thought. Eldrick, I don't know any more than anyone else. Everyone knows their alignment. My point was that I couldn't defend my careless slip, but going after me would be an error.

 

 

WHY ?

 

 

Why? Because a lynch is better than none. We could wait for a damning case and lose phases while the scum kill, or we could lynch someone that has suspicion on them. Pral has suspicion on him, it's a wagon I can see getting traction before the phase ends, and someone I actually townread is in favor of lynching him.  And now, his lack of response to being called out for being inactive hurt his case further. There was no attempt to show he'd be around when he might be needed later.

 

 

I don't understand those saying that Pral being here to read the thread but not answering is scummy... If he read the thread, he'd know he was getting heat. If he's not worried about looking bad, he won't be rushing to post. I say it's more a +town point in his favour that he wasn't rushing in to post.

 

Time to shower and go to class. Byeee

 

You answer several other posts, but refuse to do as Talya asked and define where your nulls ended and your scum reads began.

 

 

 

 

If no-one else can see how it's scummy that neither Wish or Celeste is worried about Oci's linking, Celeste's refusal to even aknowledge it, Wish' "lynching inactives are bad" turning into "we should look into inactives for Loki" after she's posted like crazy so that she couldn't be considered in inactive...

 

Cory said he wanted it answered who did anything. Wisheste has not done anything. Their reads are vague and contradictory, and the "my hydra partner is not being cooperate"-line is thin (and I used that exact one in TUS even though it wasn't true, to garner sympathy for my slot, so I do not trust it at all).

 

[unvote] [v]Wisheste[/v]

 

While I think you have a point in your issue with wishleste, how does them doing nothing garner a vote when you said you're more interested in people that do bad things?  Is the bold red essentially the bad thing, and therefore they have done something, albeit bad?  I'm following your issue, but not how you navigate through the blue bold (and the red) to arrive at a vote on them specifically.

[Cory Caboose]

Leelou - Her usual schitck of "gunning for inactives" makes me feel she is town. She is more into finding mistakes and turning it back to accuse town when she is wolf. As in she puts more effort than this. I don't see anything much with the Verbal-Leelou-Cory thing early in the day

Verbal - NOt a lot to go with. Just that minor argument with Cory early in the game. Like me, he is not a weekend player and I can see that here as the main reason for his posts or lack of it.

 

Like this gets under my skin

 

Leelou is not "gunning for inactives", she voted you specifically because I asked for someone to join me on the wagon

 

Really the vast majority of her play this game was her conversation with me/Talya

 

I don't feel like you're seriously considering your reads at all

[Kivam]

VOTE COUNT

Eldrick (2) - Lenlo WISHLeste
Ocicat (4) - Tina, Dice, Eldrick
Pral (3) - KeyBOOSE, Leelou, Ocicat
Verbal (2) - Sili, Talya

WishLeste (1) - Mish
 
Not voting (6): Songstress,  Verbal, Taborline, Pralaya, Sooh, John Snow

9 to lynch

DEADLINE IS NOON EASTERN (GMT - 4) ON WEDNESDAY. No Majority = No lynch
 

 

[Verbal32]

 

Yet you do not comment on them or take them into consideration :( I dunno. I feel like the Oci/Wisheste situation was pretty important but not a single soul has commented on it.

 

I have 16 other slots to juggle, 2 of which I'm pretty sure are wolves

 

Your considerations are noted and I'll look it over again

 

 

What part of "I haven't begun really playing" is somehow unclear for you?  I'm trying to dig in after the weekend 30 page explosion - yesterday was just me catching (kinda) and having to defend myself a bit.  I'm not going to spend my time in this game constantly defending myself.  Either mislynch me today and be done with it, or give me breathing room to warm up.

[Verbal32]

I like Taborline's case on Oci.  Easy to follow and clear/concise points.  I'm a fan.

[Cory Caboose]

Dude, I haven't even begun playing.

 

FWIW I can remember at least two times (HoC and Firefly IIRC) where you made posts like this as a wolf who got ~boxed out and in one of them it even worked

 

It's like an "I'm going to get ahead of the puck!" thing you like doing tonally when you're falling behind

[Verbal32]

 

Leelou - Her usual schitck of "gunning for inactives" makes me feel she is town. She is more into finding mistakes and turning it back to accuse town when she is wolf. As in she puts more effort than this. I don't see anything much with the Verbal-Leelou-Cory thing early in the day

Verbal - NOt a lot to go with. Just that minor argument with Cory early in the game. Like me, he is not a weekend player and I can see that here as the main reason for his posts or lack of it.

 

Like this gets under my skin

 

Leelou is not "gunning for inactives", she voted you specifically because I asked for someone to join me on the wagon

 

Really the vast majority of her play this game was her conversation with me/Talya

 

I don't feel like you're seriously considering your reads at all

 

 

Do you actually think his annoyance that is on display right now is indicative of scum!Pralaya?  I don't.

[Eldrick4221]

I've given it some thought, and I'm not wtl wishleste anymore. I don't think they're scummy. I think that their disjointed hydra view is unhelpful. That's not a reason to lynch.

[Verbal32]

 

Dude, I haven't even begun playing.

 

FWIW I can remember at least two times (HoC and Firefly IIRC) where you made posts like this as a wolf who got ~boxed out and in one of them it even worked

 

It's like an "I'm going to get ahead of the puck!" thing you like doing tonally when you're falling behind

 

 

I like that you made a hockey analogy to a hockey player.  :-)

[Cory Caboose]

What part of "I haven't begun really playing" is somehow unclear for you?  I'm trying to dig in after the weekend 30 page explosion - yesterday was just me catching (kinda) and having to defend myself a bit.  I'm not going to spend my time in this game constantly defending myself.  Either mislynch me today and be done with it, or give me breathing room to warm up.

 

Again, not personal

 

Just pretty sure you are a wolf

 

Prove me wrong

[Cory Caboose]

 

Do you actually think his annoyance that is on display right now is indicative of scum!Pralaya?  I don't.

 

 

Do you mean this:

 

 

 

Statements like these are clearly stupid. Everyone knows that I have not missed a single NA during my entire time in DM. So, I have no idea what you are talking about or what you are trying to imply here. 

 

 

Yes, I think Scum!Pralaya could easily feign offense at someone accusing him of missing NAs if he really hasn't done it before ever

 

It really has nothing to do with this game

[Pralaya]

Anyway back to the game...

 

ISO'd Mish

 

Mish, do you have any further reads from your last one (nearly two days ago). Do you still feel the same for those you thought town? Who do you have now in your scum pile?

 

I also had a quick look at Celeste and Wish - All they have done is fluff posts, also asked questions but more to the general about if that's normal of people. Wish a coupld of times asks for thoughts, but they don't seem to go back to anything. They haven't given any indication of who they think is town and who isn't, nor any game solving. The only time is when they try to push Eld could be Loki, because of his question. not feeling good about this slot.

 

@Celeste/Wish - you said you were going to look at Lenlo - what did you find. What are your current reads?

Then this post from Talya stood out. Out of the blue she starts ISOing Mish. Talya had not talked about Mish before nor had she done detailed ISO on others. This was just from nowhere. I can see why she would look at Celeste - Celeste had a vote on Talya. But, why Mish? Especially combined with what I saw earlier, it doesn't look like a co-incidence.

 

Agreed that reads being same does not mean anything. But, not when combined with other things.

[Pralaya]

Ignore my previous post. THis is what I wanted to say in full.

 

Mish, let me show you what I am seeing

 

This was 7am my time (GMT+1). I am not awake at 7am. Expect me at 1pm my time at the earliest. Yes, I sleep until noon. Chronically ill. Did I get a good nights sleep tonight? Nope >.< pains kept me awake until like 5 in the morning. Fibro is FUN guys :D :P

 

Caught up now. Thoughts. Yes. I have some.

 

I don't feel good about Len. His ISO on Talya and posting post counts and such feels like trying to look helpful and engaged and like he's #solving, instead of having to add actual content.

I'm liking Lee, Cory and Sili.

My first game with Eld and Oci, so they are hard for me to read at this point.

JS feels relaxed, wich is a good thing.

Also feeling good about Wisheste, Celeste seems more "on" and Wish more relaxed than TUS.

 

Yep, that's it for now.

 

 

[v] Len [/v]

Your vote on Len was mainly due to his ISO on Talya. You felt that he is not being helpful much.

 

This would have been fine but for

 

 

[v]Tayla[/v] It's a gut vibe mostly.

 

I'd like more of a reason than that tnx.

 

You questioned Celeste for her vote on Talya. Again. Agreed that at this point that you were not feeling good about Celeste and you were questioning based on that, but I think it is more than a co-incidence.

[Pralaya]

Anyway back to the game...

 

ISO'd Mish

 

Mish, do you have any further reads from your last one (nearly two days ago). Do you still feel the same for those you thought town? Who do you have now in your scum pile?

 

I also had a quick look at Celeste and Wish - All they have done is fluff posts, also asked questions but more to the general about if that's normal of people. Wish a coupld of times asks for thoughts, but they don't seem to go back to anything. They haven't given any indication of who they think is town and who isn't, nor any game solving. The only time is when they try to push Eld could be Loki, because of his question. not feeling good about this slot.

 

@Celeste/Wish - you said you were going to look at Lenlo - what did you find. What are your current reads?

Then this post from Talya stood out. Out of the blue she starts ISOing Mish. Talya had not talked about Mish before nor had she done detailed ISO on others. This was just from nowhere. I can see why she would look at Celeste - Celeste had a vote on Talya. But, why Mish? Especially combined with what I saw earlier, it doesn't look like a co-incidence.

 

Agreed that reads being same does not mean anything. But, not when combined with other things.

[Verbal32]

 

 

Dude, I haven't even begun playing.

 

FWIW I can remember at least two times (HoC and Firefly IIRC) where you made posts like this as a wolf who got ~boxed out and in one of them it even worked

 

It's like an "I'm going to get ahead of the puck!" thing you like doing tonally when you're falling behind

 

 

I like that you made a hockey analogy to a hockey player.  :-)

 

 

I'm also weirded out that you remember my past games better than I do. 

[Cory Caboose]

I have like an encyclopedic memory of the way people play in Mafia games

I do not remember what I ate for breakfast

 

Such is life.

[Pralaya]

Like this gets under my skin

 

Leelou is not "gunning for inactives", she voted you specifically because I asked for someone to join me on the wagon

 

Really the vast majority of her play this game was her conversation with me/Talya

 

I don't feel like you're seriously considering your reads at all

Not in this game. Town Leelou more or less always votes me D1 with comments on my activity. It is a running meta on her now.

[michellem]

 

Why do I keep having this feeling that no-one actually reads my posts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

The more I think about it, the worse I feel about Oci and Wisheste. In hindsight Celeste randomly calling me out feels weird... It wouldn't have bothered me if it was a player that was used to playing with me. But I'd already reminded people in the thread I wasn't gonna be on my normal activity this weekend. Makes it seem like she didn't really read my post. It was weird. That combined with she trying to make it seem like I said something I didn't... I feel very uncomfortable about her now.

 

Then with Oci several times linking me and Celeste, and him defending them, it makes it seem to me like they are mafia together, and he's setting me up to look bad if they get lynched.

 

I will refer you to the post Tina's already made instead of pulling the same quotes: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/95348-ragnarok-game-thread-d1/?p=3538339

 

This does not read like town and town to me. It's either mafia buddies, or one mafia one Loki. But I'm thinking buddies.

 

Oci is the one that makes me feel most iffy for trying to tie me and Celeste together like that, so that's where my vote will go atm. But I'm more than willing to switch to Wisheste too.

 

[v] Oci[/v]

???

If we're scum buddies <3 (Oci and Celeste/moi), then why would you look bad if we get lynched? Wouldn't it give you town credit if you flip us and we're scum?

 

Also, hola. First day of classes over. I got some blisters from wearing slightly uncomfortable shoes. :/

 

Celeste has mod duties elsewhere, so it's my job to post atm. Sorry for being MIA. RL, etc.

 

 

If you are scum buddies, and one of you get lynched, it might look like I'm a team member with you. It won't now, because I've called you out on it. But if Tina hadn't drawn my attention to it, it would've looked quite bad.

 

Why aren't you worried about the fact that Oci is trying very hard to link us?

 

 

*snipped*

 

Also Celeste: I would prefer if you went back and figured out wich post you tried to say it was me who had made. I don't like that you don't double check your facts before stating someone said something. It doesn't sit well with me that you tried to shove an opinion on me I never made.

I thought it was you and with no post quote system here it makes it harder to look for facts. I will try and find it but it's going to take me a while. 

 

 

Why aren't you worried about the fact that Oci is trying to link us? In fact, why aren't you aknowledging my post at all?

 

 

 

Lynching wolves > Lynching villagers for "information"

 

I mean Ocicat COULD be a wolf and I am in no way saying he is a villager but I think he's = rand at worst and we'd mostly be lynching him because we don't understand him.

 

I want to lynch Pral or Verbal today.

 

I read your post, and I agree with parts, although not when it comes to Pral (i make a point about that later in my post). But I'm honestly more concerned with those people who actually do things badly than those that do nothing today.

 

 

Eyy btw, I'm going to go with my (paint) color theory for doing the mafia/town/3P sliding scale thingy.

 

Town----------------------------------------------------------------------Null-------------------------------------------------Mafia------------------------------------------------------Loki

 

Moi/Celeste, Lenlo, Key/Cory, Sooh, Tress, Sili, Leelou, Tina, Dice, Talya, Verbal, Mish, Pral, Tabor, Jon Snow, Ocicat, Eldrick, ??? (possibly Jon Snow, Pral, Mish, Talya? suspect lurkers of being Loki.)

 

I too wish you would have marked where each group ended. I would like to know why I'm suddenly in your bottom pile when I don't think you've even mentioned a read on me so far.

 

 

I have literally no idea how to hunt 3P besides hoping they are somehow generically wolfy in the same way wolves are

 

Just going to sort of hope we luck into killing him at some point or the wolves do it for us

I would think that the 3P would lurk. It looks like Mafia and town would be best served to get rid of him, which still (imo) is more advantageous for Mafia, because it takes the attention off of them.

 

 

A page or two before this you said you thought it was a bad idea to lurk inactives, and yet here you are planting the seed that Loki is amongst the inactives. Very handy considering the fact that you've now spammed enough to not be considered an inactive anymore.

 

 

Vote Pral with me.

I was coming to that anyway, although I hope this doesn't just stay as a tie. Vote: Pralya

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And to summarize what I was trying to post, Sooh, yes, that was a polished and crafted post, it was a defense against a valid point, not a free-flowing thought. Eldrick, I don't know any more than anyone else. Everyone knows their alignment. My point was that I couldn't defend my careless slip, but going after me would be an error.

 

 

And you neither aknowledge my post...

 

FYI: Ignoring me is just gonna make me all the more determined to shake answers out of you.

 

 

 

 

My issue with him is I have trouble not seeing him as town alot of the time. 

 

This doesn't sound like an issue to me

 

Tip to reading Cory: read him town, he's earned it

 

(I am 100% a villager this game for all you paranoid patricias, but tinfoil on so I can put you on my dartboard of people who've lost faith)

 

 

Im sold that cory is not MAFIA.  He does have Loki possibilities but I still think he is town

 

 

Vote Pral with me.

I was coming to that anyway, although I hope this doesn't just stay as a tie. Vote: Pralya

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And to summarize what I was trying to post, Sooh, yes, that was a polished and crafted post, it was a defense against a valid point, not a free-flowing thought. Eldrick, I don't know any more than anyone else. Everyone knows their alignment. My point was that I couldn't defend my careless slip, but going after me would be an error.

 

 

WHY ?

 

 

Why? Because a lynch is better than none. We could wait for a damning case and lose phases while the scum kill, or we could lynch someone that has suspicion on them. Pral has suspicion on him, it's a wagon I can see getting traction before the phase ends, and someone I actually townread is in favor of lynching him.  And now, his lack of response to being called out for being inactive hurt his case further. There was no attempt to show he'd be around when he might be needed later.

 

 

I don't understand those saying that Pral being here to read the thread but not answering is scummy... If he read the thread, he'd know he was getting heat. If he's not worried about looking bad, he won't be rushing to post. I say it's more a +town point in his favour that he wasn't rushing in to post.

 

Time to shower and go to class. Byeee

 

You answer several other posts, but refuse to do as Talya asked and define where your nulls ended and your scum reads began.

 

 

 

 

 

If no-one else can see how it's scummy that neither Wish or Celeste is worried about Oci's linking, Celeste's refusal to even aknowledge it, Wish' "lynching inactives are bad" turning into "we should look into inactives for Loki" after she's posted like crazy so that she couldn't be considered in inactive...

 

Cory said he wanted it answered who did anything. Wisheste has not done anything. Their reads are vague and contradictory, and the "my hydra partner is not being cooperate"-line is thin (and I used that exact one in TUS even though it wasn't true, to garner sympathy for my slot, so I do not trust it at all).

 

[unvote] [v]Wisheste[/v]

 

While I think you have a point in your issue with wishleste, how does them doing nothing garner a vote when you said you're more interested in people that do bad things?  Is the bold red essentially the bad thing, and therefore they have done something, albeit bad?  I'm following your issue, but not how you navigate through the blue bold (and the red) to arrive at a vote on them specifically.

 

 

Let me rephrase that to: Wisheste has done nothing helpful/positive. But they have done things badly. Makes more sense?

 

(I spoilered the parts of my quote not related to your question because Im on mobile and can't deal with cutting down the quote right now)

[Cory Caboose]

I don't know if I can save this village

[Verbal32]

 

 

Do you actually think his annoyance that is on display right now is indicative of scum!Pralaya?  I don't.

 

 

Do you mean this:

 

 

 

Statements like these are clearly stupid. Everyone knows that I have not missed a single NA during my entire time in DM. So, I have no idea what you are talking about or what you are trying to imply here. 

 

 

Yes, I think Scum!Pralaya could easily feign offense at someone accusing him of missing NAs if he really hasn't done it before ever

 

It really has nothing to do with this game

 

 

I disagree.  I think scum!Pralaya is much less likely to stand up to you and get grumpy - he'd rather try and explain his way out of it and then go dark.  I don't think he'd easily fake this and I can envision the scowl on his face when he typed that post.

[michellem]

Ignore my previous post. THis is what I wanted to say in full.

 

Mish, let me show you what I am seeing

 

This was 7am my time (GMT+1). I am not awake at 7am. Expect me at 1pm my time at the earliest. Yes, I sleep until noon. Chronically ill. Did I get a good nights sleep tonight? Nope >.< pains kept me awake until like 5 in the morning. Fibro is FUN guys :D :P

 

Caught up now. Thoughts. Yes. I have some.

 

I don't feel good about Len. His ISO on Talya and posting post counts and such feels like trying to look helpful and engaged and like he's #solving, instead of having to add actual content.

I'm liking Lee, Cory and Sili.

My first game with Eld and Oci, so they are hard for me to read at this point.

JS feels relaxed, wich is a good thing.

Also feeling good about Wisheste, Celeste seems more "on" and Wish more relaxed than TUS.

 

Yep, that's it for now.

 

 

[v] Len [/v]

Your vote on Len was mainly due to his ISO on Talya. You felt that he is not being helpful much.

 

The fact that it was Talya he ISO'd was irrelevant. A that point it felt like he just picked a player at random and posted and ISO to look good. It could've been anyone and I would've reacted in the same way. Sorry to burst your bubble there.

 

This would have been fine but for

 

 

[v]Tayla[/v] It's a gut vibe mostly.

 

I'd like more of a reason than that tnx.

 

You questioned Celeste for her vote on Talya. Again. Agreed that at this point that you were not feeling good about Celeste and you were questioning based on that, but I think it is more than a co-incidence.

 

I don't like votes without a reason, especially not on D1. As far as I could remember Celeste had not even mentioned Talya before that, and then she drops that vote. It made me feel iffy.

 

 

 

Blue is me.

[michellem]

I've given it some thought, and I'm not wtl wishleste anymore. I don't think they're scummy. I think that their disjointed hydra view is unhelpful. That's not a reason to lynch.

 

What about the points I brought up against them? What do you think about those?