Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Cory Caboose]

FWIW I don't have the same level of comfort with Dice that most of you do, and I have mild "team equity" in my team list with her/Tress but this is tinfoil.

I think Tress is a villager though but I am bracing for potential heartbreak.

[Lenlo]

I love playing here but sometimes I feel like I am taking crazy pills.

Do you really need those?

 

Ive only tried somewhere else once. And it was rather different.

[Cory Caboose]

Lenlo I'm pretty sure the place your talking about is VS and it probably wasn't all that different; I was in all of those games and, as always, was trying to lynch you. 

[Cory Caboose]

Now I just skimmed through all of Verbal's posts this game upon his re-entry today and every single one of them is discussing why he and Leelou aren't wolves together

 

He even asks "who were the people pushing this?" like he's going to do something about it but doesn't, just explains to Tress how they're never wolves together

 

I have literally no idea who he wants to lynch.

 

If anyone can tell me who he wants to lynch and who he thinks are the wolves please tell me because I am at a complete loss and it's not like he hasn't been around the thread more than once.

[Lenlo]

Lenlo I'm pretty sure the place your talking about is VS and it probably wasn't all that different; I was in all of those games and, as always, was trying to lynch you. 

Maybe. It was like a year ago or something. 

 

That reminds me, why arnt you trying to lynch me this time? Am I doing something wrong? Do you not love me anymore?

[Cory Caboose]

I'm too proud of your strides forward to lynch you right now

 

If you're a wolf you've earned a day

[dicetosser1]

Lynching wolves > Lynching villagers for "information"

 

I mean Ocicat COULD be a wolf and I am in no way saying he is a villager but I think he's = rand at worst and we'd mostly be lynching him because we don't understand him.

 

I want to lynch Pral or Verbal today.

 

Quoted this BEFORE your lecture Prof Cory  but after reading that want to ask  is Pral an inactivity thus could be hiding lynch or is it more    may mangle this    in your lecture you seem to draw a bit of meta on Pral  is this push more because he is not matching up with ure meta on him?  Does that make sense?

 

FWIW I don't have the same level of comfort with Dice that most of you do, and I have mild "team equity" in my team list with her/Tress but this is tinfoil.

 

I think Tress is a villager though but I am bracing for potential heartbreak.

 

Dude you have VIDEO chatted with me.....Do you know any women with a beard like mine?

 

is your discomfort with me that i havent been

 

a  super active

b  not aggressive enuff

c  both the above  or

d something else?

[wish-tree]

And you guys know how much I hate writing long posts so I beg you, please read it and think about what I am saying.

 

WHO ARE THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING?

 

Who ACTUALLY GIVES A DAMN about who is being lynched today?

1. People who are actually doing something could be town, could be scum trying to save their teammates.

2. Same answer to #1. But I think that I care, you care, Sili cares, Lenlo cares, and anyone else who's shown up cares.

[wish-tree]

 

Lynching wolves > Lynching villagers for "information"

 

I mean Ocicat COULD be a wolf and I am in no way saying he is a villager but I think he's = rand at worst and we'd mostly be lynching him because we don't understand him.

 

I want to lynch Pral or Verbal today.

 

Quoted this BEFORE your lecture Prof Cory  but after reading that want to ask  is Pral an inactivity thus could be hiding lynch or is it more    may mangle this    in your lecture you seem to draw a bit of meta on Pral  is this push more because he is not matching up with ure meta on him?  Does that make sense?

 

FWIW I don't have the same level of comfort with Dice that most of you do, and I have mild "team equity" in my team list with her/Tress but this is tinfoil.

 

I think Tress is a villager though but I am bracing for potential heartbreak.

 

Dude you have VIDEO chatted with me.....Do you know any women with a beard like mine?

 

is your discomfort with me that i havent been

 

a  super active

b  not aggressive enuff

c  both the above  or

d something else?

 

LOLOLOL

 

I told you I wasn't the only one! Dice = girl was my original opinion, remember?

[Cory Caboose]

IDK I can usually comfortably clear you by the end of d1 (and you know this) and I haven't yet

If I'm wrong let me see otherwise

[Cory Caboose]

1. People who are actually doing something could be town, could be scum trying to save their teammates.

2. Same answer to #1. But I think that I care, you care, Sili cares, Lenlo cares, and anyone else who's shown up cares.

 

1. This is the funny thing about watching DM game; I remember Star Wars in particular when Leelou was scum godfather and got lynched on day 1. She had three teammates. She got lynched by one vote IIRC.

 

Her teammates? Every single one of them?

 

Not voting.

 

AFAICT I've been pretty much the only one defending most of the wagoned people I think are villagers, so I don't see anyone "trying to save a teammate" anywhere. I would guess we've been wagoning mostly villagers and if we've hit a wolf somewhere they probably haven't cared.

[Cory Caboose]

Quoted this BEFORE your lecture Prof Cory  but after reading that want to ask  is Pral an inactivity thus could be hiding lynch or is it more    may mangle this    in your lecture you seem to draw a bit of meta on Pral  is this push more because he is not matching up with ure meta on him?  Does that make sense?

 

Yes, I think that if Pral was a villager both A) when he first showed up he would have attempted to make a read or done something rather than basically check in and dip out and B) he would have made a more concentrated effort to get back into the thread at some point.

 

If he's a wolf he knows he can disappear for a long time and people will go "well Pral is inactive day 1 a lot, he's a no information lynch, we can't lynch him!" as per DM standards but I think he typically cares about having his reads out there as a villager and would have at least made some effort to get his head in the game.

 

But that's all very thin admittedly and I wouldn't put it above ~60% confidence, but that's better than most of the wagons I saw cropping up this whole day phase (Jon Snow / Sili, briefly / Talya / Ocicat)

[wish-tree]

 

1. People who are actually doing something could be town, could be scum trying to save their teammates.

2. Same answer to #1. But I think that I care, you care, Sili cares, Lenlo cares, and anyone else who's shown up cares.

 

1. This is the funny thing about watching DM game; I remember Star Wars in particular when Leelou was scum godfather and got lynched on day 1. She had three teammates. She got lynched by one vote IIRC.

 

Her teammates? Every single one of them?

 

Not voting.

 

AFAICT I've been pretty much the only one defending most of the wagoned people I think are villagers, so I don't see anyone "trying to save a teammate" anywhere. I would guess we've been wagoning mostly villagers and if we've hit a wolf somewhere they probably haven't cared.

 

Woah what?

That's terrible. Apathy.

:/ I'd at least want scum to try to save their own. It makes it boring if it's an easy win.

[wish-tree]

Eyy btw, I'm going to go with my (paint) color theory for doing the mafia/town/3P sliding scale thingy.

 

Town----------------------------------------------------------------------Null-------------------------------------------------Mafia------------------------------------------------------Loki

 

Moi/Celeste, Lenlo, Key/Cory, Sooh, Tress, Sili, Leelou, Tina, Dice, Talya, Verbal, Mish, Pral, Tabor, Jon Snow, Ocicat, Eldrick, ??? (possibly Jon Snow, Pral, Mish, Talya? suspect lurkers of being Loki.)

[Cory Caboose]

AFAICT it's more "don't want to be caught by vote logic!!!" type stuff than apathy.

 

I've never paid attention to wagonomics / vote logic / any of that stuff ever because I don't think it finds wolves, but whatever floats your boat.

 

I remember when I first started playing here wolves would always kill off the inactives because they were "no info night kills" and the wolves were afraid if they killed villagers it would give information or something?

[Cory Caboose]

Does Celeste also think Ocicat is a wolf?

You guys have sincere experience with him and are capable of reading him well?

[wish-tree]

AFAICT it's more "don't want to be caught by vote logic!!!" type stuff than apathy.

 

I've never paid attention to wagonomics / vote logic / any of that stuff ever because I don't think it finds wolves, but whatever floats your boat.

 

I remember when I first started playing here wolves would always kill off the inactives because they were "no info night kills" and the wolves were afraid if they killed villagers it would give information or something?

Ah. I see.

[Cory Caboose]

I have literally no idea how to hunt 3P besides hoping they are somehow generically wolfy in the same way wolves are

 

Just going to sort of hope we luck into killing him at some point or the wolves do it for us

[wish-tree]

Does Celeste also think Ocicat is a wolf?

 

You guys have sincere experience with him and are capable of reading him well?

No. Celeste thinks Ocicat is town. She has more experience with him, but idk why she thinks so.

 

 

I fundamentally disagree with some of her reads.

[Lenlo]

Ha! See that Cory! Im ranked higher than you! 

 

Ima go eat a cookie to celebrate.

[wish-tree]

I have literally no idea how to hunt 3P besides hoping they are somehow generically wolfy in the same way wolves are

 

Just going to sort of hope we luck into killing him at some point or the wolves do it for us

I would think that the 3P would lurk. It looks like Mafia and town would be best served to get rid of him, which still (imo) is more advantageous for Mafia, because it takes the attention off of them.

[Kivam]

VOTE COUNT

Eldrick (1) - Lenlo
Ocicat (4) - Tina, Dice, Eldrick, Mish
Talya (2) - WishLESTE, Ocicat
Pral (2) - KeyBOOSE, Leelou
WishLeste (1) - Talya

Verbal (1) - Sili
 
Not voting (6): Songstress,  Verbal, Taborline, Pralaya, Sooh, John Snow

9 to lynch

DEADLINE IS NOON EASTERN (GMT - 4) ON WEDNESDAY. No Majority = No lynch
 

 

Note for those who care: My team kicks ass.  End-of-auction-leverage FTW

 

[dicetosser1]

IDK I can usually comfortably clear you by the end of d1 (and you know this) and I haven't yet

 

If I'm wrong let me see otherwise

 

Fair enuff and that was why i was asking

 

 

Quoted this BEFORE your lecture Prof Cory  but after reading that want to ask  is Pral an inactivity thus could be hiding lynch or is it more    may mangle this    in your lecture you seem to draw a bit of meta on Pral  is this push more because he is not matching up with ure meta on him?  Does that make sense?

 

Yes, I think that if Pral was a villager both A) when he first showed up he would have attempted to make a read or done something rather than basically check in and dip out and B) he would have made a more concentrated effort to get back into the thread at some point.

 

If he's a wolf he knows he can disappear for a long time and people will go "well Pral is inactive day 1 a lot, he's a no information lynch, we can't lynch him!" as per DM standards but I think he typically cares about having his reads out there as a villager and would have at least made some effort to get his head in the game.

 

But that's all very thin admittedly and I wouldn't put it above ~60% confidence, but that's better than most of the wagons I saw cropping up this whole day phase (Jon Snow / Sili, briefly / Talya / Ocicat)

 

 

Allright then. I can follow that. id be willing to sheep you based on it but I havent even had a response from ocicat. and thats making me want to hang on her harder.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

I can make sense of Talya being town now, so that's good, I guess... from a certain perspective.

 

[v]Verbal[/v]

 

Horrible horrible horrible outrageously bad posts, I saw. My current best guess for scum.

 

Loki candidates:

Eldrick, Talya, Ocicat.

Wait, what? Explain these bolded parts...?

 

Do you think that Talya is town, or do you think she is Loki?

 

I can understand how Talya as town was thinking, maybe, therefore my case for voting is less significant. I don't know if I believe her, but that alone isn't sufficient.

 

Talya could be a wolf, or she could be loki. No one is mechanically cleared.

 

I don't like this response.

 

Sili was caught calling Talya both town and Loki. When pressed about it, he mentions she could also be scum.

[wish-tree]

Eyy btw, I'm going to go with my (paint) color theory for doing the mafia/town/3P sliding scale thingy.

 

Town----------------------------------------------------------------------Null-------------------------------------------------Mafia------------------------------------------------------Loki

 

Moi/Celeste, Lenlo, Key/Cory, Sooh, Tress, Sili, Leelou, Tina, Dice, Talya, Verbal, Mish, Pral, Tabor, Jon Snow, Ocicat, Eldrick, ??? (possibly Jon Snow, Pral, Mish, Talya? suspect lurkers of being Loki.)

Oh, and I forgot to go vote.

And I was going to do things in varying shades of color, but I couldn't find all the in-betweens. :'(

 

[vote]Eldrick[/vote]